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September 8th, 2012 at 10:43:51 AM permalink
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September 8th, 2012 at 11:18:29 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

People that continually pound on slot/video poker button.



I don't have a problem with that. Since you can't beat the machine, why not beat up on it ?
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September 8th, 2012 at 2:56:06 PM permalink
-Machines with handles that are locked, or worse, working handles that you're cautioned against using. I don't care if they're just big switches nowadays, I like handles.
-Those VBJ machines that only let you bet one credit or everything you've got in the machine. Especially with the fact that they offer surrender for two or more credits.
-Machines that advertise their credit amount when the minimum bet is much higher. I guess I can sort of understand it for those "all lines" machines, but other than that it's just bull.
-Waiting for a table.
-Boardpersons and floorpersons who just don't care about the list, advertising open seats when there aren't any or not calling anyone when there are despite a list, or even (usually at night) seating someone ahead of the list because they don't know any better.
-Players who leave their chips when they know they're not going to be back for half an hour or more.
-Pre-flop min-raisers in low-stakes no-limit; no one seems to fold to them who wasn't folding anyway, even the BB.
-Players who dance or sing along to their music players.
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September 8th, 2012 at 3:04:31 PM permalink
" Players who leave their chips when they know they're not going to be back for half an hour or more." Rocks do this in poker riooms to be eligible for bad beat jackpots GRRRRRRR
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September 8th, 2012 at 3:56:20 PM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo


-Players who leave their chips when they know they're not going to be back for half an hour or more.



I saw the Asian players do this constantly when I played
bac. They would leave the table and go eat at the buffet.
After 30min the pit would remove their chips and when
they wandered back after being gone for 90min, they
would go apeshit that their seat was gone. Always very
entertaining, the sense of entitlement involved was
staggering to me. Or they would be playing at another
table and jump back to play one hand every 20min, just
to hold their seat. The pit put up with it because they're
Asian. If it was me, no way they would tolerate it. Its why
I don't play bac anymore, the obvious bias of the pit.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 8th, 2012 at 4:11:26 PM permalink
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September 8th, 2012 at 4:18:04 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

" Players who leave their chips when they know they're not going to be back for half an hour or more." Rocks do this in poker riooms to be eligible for bad beat jackpots GRRRRRRR

Really?

Most poker rooms require that you need to be dealt in to be eligible. Better rooms only require that you have played at least one hand, and have not missed any blinds.

If you're gone half an hour or longer, you WILL have at least one missed blind button...
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September 8th, 2012 at 4:33:37 PM permalink
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If you're gone half an hour or longer, you WILL have at least one missed blind button.."

Which keeps you eligible for the bad beat jackpot.
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September 8th, 2012 at 4:42:39 PM permalink
Not where I play. No cards, no cash. Someone I knew won the table money once, and some unlucky sap up for the bathroom just missed it; the winners felt sorry for him and gave him a black each. Although I still say tight is the way to go, especially when the rake is high compared to the stakes.

Don't really care about people holding their seats at the tables, since there it doesn't really affect the game itself, although I don't really play the tables, certainly not enough to bother with lines when they exist.
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September 8th, 2012 at 5:10:35 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The pit put up with it because they're
Asian. If it was me, no way they would tolerate it. Its why
I don't play bac anymore, the obvious bias of the pit.



It's because they're asian, not because they're betting huge amounts of money?
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September 8th, 2012 at 6:13:00 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

It's because they're asian, not because they're betting huge amounts of money?



The pit turns a blind eye to Asian players in bac. Its
a fact, not speculation. Money bet has nothing to
do with it. They even admitted it to me. They can't
afford to piss them off because they all know each
other and if they boycott a casino, it costs big money.

Four Winds, for instance, opened in 2007. They ticked
off a couple of the bussed in Chicago Asians, and they
all disappeared for about 4 months in late 2007. When
they finally came back, they could do almost anyhing
they liked and get away with. If you complain, the
pit justs shrugs its shoulders.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 8th, 2012 at 6:18:28 PM permalink
At a volunteer fire dept game night, I gave a tip. The dealer said we cannot accept tips but we can accept tokes. I said you can put the tip in the tip in the tip box or return my toke. I never got the chip back.
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September 8th, 2012 at 8:02:40 PM permalink
If you play poker often, you will frequently find Asians not talking English. Often while one still has a hand !
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September 10th, 2012 at 7:38:02 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The pit turns a blind eye to Asian players in bac. Its
a fact, not speculation. Money bet has nothing to
do with it. They even admitted it to me. They can't
afford to piss them off because they all know each
other and if they boycott a casino, it costs big money.

Four Winds, for instance, opened in 2007. They ticked
off a couple of the bussed in Chicago Asians, and they
all disappeared for about 4 months in late 2007. When
they finally came back, they could do almost anyhing
they liked and get away with. If you complain, the
pit justs shrugs its shoulders.




They all know each other....just like all those blacks on the subway who call each other "bro"?
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September 10th, 2012 at 7:42:14 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

if they boycott a casino, it costs big money.



Obviously you need to form a posse of crotchety upper-middle aged white guys & play some serious bac! :-)
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September 10th, 2012 at 7:46:05 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

They all know each other....just like all those blacks on the subway who call each other "bro"?



Far better than that. They play together all the
time, ride the same busses from Chicago, live
in the same neighborhoods. When they boycotted
Four Winds the casino had a cow. They tried
everything to get them back. It was pretty funny.
Its almost like a players union.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 10th, 2012 at 8:42:59 PM permalink
I am going with Bob on this one. I was one of the few non-Asians who played poker in the PAN club in Denver. They should have kept it all Asian though. This was prior to legal gambling in 1990. And the law was you could gamble if everyone had a " social relationship" The white undercover cop who busted them did not !

I was also trapped in Blackhawk one snowy night. Everyone else was Asian. 8 poker players , 2 dealers, and a floor man. Learned a lot about the common bond they had, how difficult they had immigrating or bring their families to the USA. Even found out the best immigration lawyer in Denver.
I remember it because an argument was going on about it. It was settled when they realized it was the same lawyer practicing under both an Asian and a Chinese name.
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:31:49 PM permalink
I'm not sure what kind of peeve this would go under, but on the usual endless loop of Top 40 "songs" and occasional poppy oldies, I keep hearing a Bob Dylan song that stuck out like a sore thumb. I knew I knew it, knew I'd heard it a thousand times, and I knew it had to be from the sixties or early seventies, since he didn't have the gravelly voice he's had for the past decade or so and not much in between gets played. It's jarring every time it comes on, from just seeming so insanely out of place on a casino speaker, and only just now did I Google what lyrics I could remember and realize what it was doing there.

Even if you don't already know what I'm talking about firsthand, you've probably guessed which song it is by now.

"Positively 4th Street."

Groooannnnn...
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September 11th, 2012 at 9:30:49 AM permalink
Any televised sporting event that Tim McCarver is announcing.

He talks about food, broadway plays, opera, books, music, anything and everything and tries to tie into the game I am watching.

I say watching because when he is the announcer, I put the game on mute!
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September 11th, 2012 at 10:52:45 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

They can't afford to piss them off because they all know each other and if they boycott a casino, it costs big money.

I have some doubts about this however I do acknowledge that orientals often shop in large numbered organized groups and that in the Orient, whales are not independent, they are allied with Whale-Minder organizations who sell the whale's play to the casinos.

It may simply be that the few times a casino sends in a ringer who has a smattering of Chinese, he reports the banter as being normal social chit chat and therefore the casinos do not want to be sticklers for enforcing the rules of English Only.
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September 11th, 2012 at 12:15:46 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I have some doubts about this however .



I have no doubts at all, I saw it first hand. They
all disappeared for months, it almost closed
down bac at the casino. And when they finally
came back the casino so sickeningly bent over
backwards to comp them and let them break
the rules that I quit playing.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 11th, 2012 at 12:20:58 PM permalink
I stopped playing poker at the Lodge in Blackhawk. There was obvious collusion among several Asian players, which the poker room management did not want to touch.
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January 8th, 2013 at 6:50:27 PM permalink
I probably should have posted this one about week 14 of the NFL season since it annoys me so much. It's the phrase that a team or person 'controls their own destiny'. For instance, going into the last weekend of the season, the Vikings 'controlled their own playoff destiny'.

Destiny by definition is fate or a pre-determined course of events. The point is, IT CAN'T BE CONTROLLED.

OK, I feel better, thanks!
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January 8th, 2013 at 7:59:29 PM permalink
Pet peeve...small minded bigots who think they are better than everyone else.
Not naming names or Implying anyone in particular.

Should I be concerned ? Just asking !
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January 8th, 2013 at 8:14:00 PM permalink
Pet peeve -- drawing of owls wearing graduation caps. Why don't you ever see an owl in the wild wearing one?


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January 8th, 2013 at 8:24:06 PM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

I probably should have posted this one about week 14 of the NFL season since it annoys me so much. It's the phrase that a team or person 'controls their own destiny'. For instance, going into the last weekend of the season, the Vikings 'controlled their own playoff destiny'.

Destiny by definition is fate or a pre-determined course of events. The point is, IT CAN'T BE CONTROLLED.

OK, I feel better, thanks!



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/destiny

des·ti·ny noun \ˈdes-tə-nē\
plural des·ti·nies

Definition of DESTINY

1
: something to which a person or thing is destined : fortune <wants to control his own destiny>
2
: a predetermined course of events often held to be an irresistible power or agency
See destiny defined for English-language learners »
See destiny defined for kids »
Examples of DESTINY

They believed it was their destiny to be together.
motivated by a sense of destiny
Origin of DESTINY

Middle English destinee, from Anglo-French, from feminine of destiné, past participle of destiner
First Known Use: 14th century
Related to DESTINY

Synonyms: circumstance, fate, doom, fortune, kismet, lot, portion
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Seems your pet peeve might be with webster themselves ?

I agree, I think controls their own fate is probably a more accurate statement though.
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January 8th, 2013 at 8:32:45 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Pet peeve -- drawing of owls wearing graduation caps. Why don't you ever see an owl in the wild wearing one?



This would be my avatar if we had them:

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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January 9th, 2013 at 10:35:40 AM permalink
The Gamblers Fallacy is a fallacy......I'll assure you that there is not one Roulette game in the world going on right now that is showing 25 plus in a row even money bets.
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January 9th, 2013 at 10:42:21 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Pet peeve -- drawing of owls wearing graduation caps. Why don't you ever see an owl in the wild wearing one?


Image source: http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/10617125/2/stock-illustration-10617125-brown-graduate-owl.jpg



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January 9th, 2013 at 11:26:00 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Pet peeve -- drawing of owls wearing graduation caps. Why don't you ever see an owl in the wild wearing one?


The closest I could find here
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January 9th, 2013 at 12:02:50 PM permalink
Also, of note:

Quote:

'A Wise Old Owl' is an English language nursery rhyme. It has a Roud Folk Song Index number of 7734.

[edit] Lyrics



A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard.
Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?[1]


The rhyme refers to the traditional image of owls as the symbol of wisdom. It was recorded as early as 1875 and is apparently older than that.[2] It was quoted by John D. Rockefeller in 1915[1] and is frequently misattributed to Edward Hersey Richards.[3] During World War II, the United States army used the rhyme on a poster with the tweaked ending, "Soldier.... be like that old bird!" with the caption "Silence means security."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wise_Old_Owl
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January 9th, 2013 at 12:37:05 PM permalink
My casino pet peeve is waiting behind people cashing personal checks at the cage.
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January 9th, 2013 at 12:59:44 PM permalink
In the Northwest First Nations, the owl is a symbol of departed friends, and in some other cultures as a symbol or omen of death.

Personally, I see them as a symbol of my favourite English Football team, the Sheffield Wednesday Football Club, aka The Owls.
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January 9th, 2013 at 1:19:17 PM permalink
Quote: miplet

The closest I could find here



Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
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February 4th, 2013 at 7:09:59 PM permalink
Its a pet peeve of mine that on all gambling forums,
instead of giving an amount, someone will say they
made a 'nice profit.'

This is a meaningless statement. I know people who
think $25 is a nice profit, and others who think $300
is chump change. Just say how much you won or
don't say anything.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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February 4th, 2013 at 8:05:16 PM permalink
McDonald's style lines for service windows. You will always get caught behind the guy trying to cash a personal out-of-state check.
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February 4th, 2013 at 8:17:10 PM permalink
The last time I was in an actual McDonald's was 1990. And
that was by mistake. I've gone thru the drive thru when
out of time, buts thats because I'm desperate and I know
exactly what I'll get.
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February 4th, 2013 at 8:24:11 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Its a pet peeve of mine that on all gambling forums,
instead of giving an amount, someone will say they
made a 'nice profit.'

This is a meaningless statement. I know people who
think $25 is a nice profit, and others who think $300
is chump change. Just say how much you won or
don't say anything.



you understand the reason most people say things these ways on a public forum is out of fear of being targeted by thieves and/or the IRS. but they still want to be able to brag about their success.
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February 4th, 2013 at 8:32:22 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

but they still want to be able to brag about their success.



I think its because they didn't win all that much
and want everybody to think its more than it is.
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February 4th, 2013 at 8:32:33 PM permalink
Fine print and misleading coupons that sound like they are better than they really are.

Recently, I took a coupon to Sam's Town for a $13.99 steak and lobster. In the fine print, it required that I purchase a $2.95 drink (I ordered a coke for $2.95).

I took a crap in the urinal and left a note in permanent marker explaining that casino marketing should be required to clean up that shit with big bold letters saying "THIS IS HOW YOU ADVERTISE TRUTHFULLY BITCHES!!!"

Okay not really, but that is how I feel about it.
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February 4th, 2013 at 8:36:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I think its because they didn't win all that much
and want everybody to think its more than it is.



if thats the case of what they want others to think why wouldnt they just then lie about an amount? i guess one argument could be that someone else they know that views the forums knows the actual amount and dont want to appear to be a liar to them.
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March 23rd, 2013 at 3:38:57 PM permalink
This is another pet peeve of mine. I hate it when people say good morning after midnight but before sunrise. When it is dark outside, it is evening or night, not morning. When the sun sets, it is evening or night.

Why don't anyone say good evening after 12:01 pm? Answer because they would be looked as being strange.

I don't think that people should think if it as being morning at 12:01 am.
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March 23rd, 2013 at 3:54:47 PM permalink
That is why I like the way the M Resort and Casino sets forth its offers:
Everything is in three sections entitled:
The Bold Print
The Medium Print
The Fine Print.

No surprises, no lies, no deception.
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March 23rd, 2013 at 4:31:17 PM permalink
But it is morning, damn early morning, but morning.
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March 23rd, 2013 at 4:33:42 PM permalink
Quote: Sabretom2

But it is morning, damn early morning, but morning.



How come vampires don't know that? Night lasts
till the sun comes up. Duh.
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March 23rd, 2013 at 4:46:40 PM permalink
Got me there.
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March 23rd, 2013 at 4:51:26 PM permalink
morning [ˈmɔːnɪŋ]
n
1. the first part of the day, ending at or around noon
2. sunrise; daybreak; dawn

1am is not 'morning', its late evening. 4am is late night.
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March 23rd, 2013 at 4:54:47 PM permalink
Naah.

It's 4AM in the morning. Also, it's 9 at night [PM].
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March 23rd, 2013 at 4:57:13 PM permalink
So is it 3 "o'clock at night" or "3 oclock in the morning"?
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March 23rd, 2013 at 5:00:21 PM permalink
Only if you've been sleeping is it morning.
Otherwise, morning starts somewhere between 4:00am and 6:00am.

Ever see all those well dressed women going up to their rooms to get some sleep and they are asking men in hallways or maids with housekeeping carts what time it is... the astounding look of amazement as they realize they gambled their entire first night away is often priceless. Alot of men go wild their first night in Vegas, but it seems women do it a great deal more: the entire first night in the casino and they can't believe it.

Still.... its not "morning" just because some clock passed that midnight hour... a casino is not a train station. Even the darn casino's official daytime is likely to start at 4:00am for IRS purposes because casinos are just too darned busy for their daytime to start at Midnight. Its a betwitching hour elsewhere, but not in a casino.
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