Texas Hold'em House Ruling Question

Hello! Can anyone say definitively what the house ruling would be in this scenario:

A 10 person texas hold'em game is going on. Two players go all the way to the showdown and then show their cards. One player has the winning hand, with a full house. The other player turns over THREE cards and claims he didn't realize that he had three cards; perhaps they were stuck together. Even with 3 cards, this player has the losing hand.

Would the casino let the winning hand take the pot (the player with only 2 cards)?

Would the casino call a mis-deal because one player had 3 cards? (even though he lost the hand)

What if the winning player was the one with 3 cards, how would that be handled?

Anyone know for sure? Thanks!!

One thing you have to remember is that all "house's" are differrent. I believe the correct ruling is; Once action has passed the player with the extra card his/her hand is considered dead and all monies are to stay in the pot. It is the players responsibility to make the dealer aware of the situation. If the player does not, how can we for sure know if he "just realized" that he had 3 cards. So yes the winning hand is still the winner.

If the winning hand had 3 cards it would still be a dead hand, and the pot would be pushed to the next best hand in the showdown.

I hope that helped some...

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Would the casino let the winning hand take the pot (the player with only 2 cards)?

Would the casino call a mis-deal because one player had 3 cards? (even though he lost the hand)

What if the winning player was the one with 3 cards, how would that be handled?

The player with three cards has a dead hand, no matter whether he has the winner or not. It is the player's responsibility to protect their hand. That includes the dealer giving out too many cards, or a player folding into their holdings. If the player catches it before substantial action has occurred, it is a misdeal. If a player notices it too late, his hand is dead. If he is putting money into a pot with a dead hand that is his own fault.

What happens if I am a player at this table and I bet/call pre and post flop and fold after the turn? Is my money in the pot still gone?

Unfortunately yes. It all comes back to it is the players responsibility to protect their own hand.

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The player with three cards has a dead hand, no matter whether he has the winner or not. It is the player's responsibility to protect their hand. That includes the dealer giving out too many cards, or a player folding into their holdings. If the player catches it before substantial action has occurred, it is a misdeal. If a player notices it too late, his hand is dead. If he is putting money into a pot with a dead hand that is his own fault.

Ding, ding, ding.

Although phrased differently, this is exactly what it says in Robert's Rules.

Let's try this one. Actually happened to me. Was playing pineapple holdem. Dealt 3 cards and are supposed to strip one pre-flop. Somehow i got distracted, probably cocktail waitress , and did not strip a card. Doubt that any cards were stuck together. King was top on flop, and the original bettor was a stone rock. He checked, I bet, third played folded, and the Rock tossed his pair of Queens in the muck, mumbling something about me probably having king-rag. To piss him off, I said " Sure do" and turned my cards face up.
I actually had king-rag-rag. Rock exploded and tried to dig his hand out of the muck. Dealer pushed me the pot and I took it.
Felt somewhat guilty ( and STUPID ) but did not like that ROCK OF AGES anyway.

Should I have felt guilty ??/ What is the right ruling? Yes, third player's hand was already deep in muck too !!

Buzz, I don't play Pineapple so excuse my ignorance.

If you had too many cards in your hand because you didn't "strip one" isn't your hand dead as well? This is bizarre.

What if in the original post everyone else had folded to the Hold'em hand with the three pocket cards? Does that hand win even though it was dead due to misdeal?

Here is my dilemma. If everyone discards a card before the flop, then we would all have 2 cards and could use above examples I guess. What happened in my game, was 2 players had mucked their hands before I exposed my dead hand.

Yeah, the winner is whoever is the last one in the hand after everyone folds. This is true for a showdown too. As hands are compared, the inferior hand is folded into the muck. So Buzz won, regardless of it being a fouled hand. Part of the reason is that they folded before the problem was discovered.

Of course, the floorperson could make a different ruling if they thought that Buzz had deliberately kept the card and/or concealed that info, but that's something of a stretch.

Either way, I'd bet the dealer got a write-up.

Uh teddy, this was before gambling was legal in Colorado. To be perfectly honest, I would have split the pot three ways if the Rock wasn't such a jerk. Damn near pushed it to the dealer as a tip, but Rock was already screaming at the dealer. In the game I played it the dealer was sometimes the house. LOL