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RideTheEdge
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June 1st, 2020 at 3:03:11 PM permalink
I'm putting together a post of my California chips and got confused by Player's Club when looking up the previous entry for this casino.

MoGH lists two different casinos in Ventura with different names:
- Player's Casino: http://chipguide.themogh.org/cg_chip2.php?id=CAVEPL&v=2408001210
- Player's Club: http://chipguide.themogh.org/cg_chip2.php?id=CAVEPC&v=2229972768

RDW posted a ceramic chip from Player's Casino (same picture as the MoGH entry) and mentioned that they that they had just moved to a new location. My chip looks like one from Player's Club on MoGH.


Question: Should I post a CCotD for Player's Club in Ventura, CA? The rationale would be a different name and presumably different location. I don't remember when/how I got this chip. I did not collect any California chips in or before 2011 when RDW reports that it moved. The picture of the venue on MoGH does not look familiar (or even like a card room or casino despite the signage.) It may have been the chip that a dealer gave me from their tips at a different casino.
Doc
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June 1st, 2020 at 4:09:34 PM permalink
Info presented at the MoGH site indicates that in 2011 the Player's Club moved their business to a new location in Ventura and changed their name to Player's Casino. I have never been to either location.

Now rdw presented us with a chip from the new establishment, and you have a chip from the former establishment, which is not yet represented in this thread. I have no idea how/when/where you got your chip, but I'm certainly not going to make a big deal about that!

My opinion on this is that it is entirely appropriate to recognize the original (1930) establishment with a CCotD post, no matter how you came up with the chip. Have at it!
RideTheEdge
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June 1st, 2020 at 4:35:42 PM permalink
State: California
City: Ventura
Casino: Player's Club

Quote: RideTheEdge

I'm putting together a post of my California chips and got confused by Player's Club when looking up the previous entry for this casino.

MoGH lists two different casinos in Ventura with different names:
- Player's Casino: http://chipguide.themogh.org/cg_chip2.php?id=CAVEPL&v=2408001210
- Player's Club: http://chipguide.themogh.org/cg_chip2.php?id=CAVEPC&v=2229972768

RDW posted a ceramic chip from Player's Casino (same picture as the MoGH entry) and mentioned that they that they had just moved to a new location. My chip looks like one from Player's Club on MoGH.

Question: Should I post a CCotD for Player's Club in Ventura, CA? ...



Doc says
Quote: Doc

Have at it!

So here it is.

Where did I get this chip: I dunno
When did I get this chip: I dunno
Do I have a story to tell about it: If I did it, it's so good I don't remember it.
I have been to southern California a few times. I've even been in Ventura, though not before this place is reported to be no more.

The dirty, well traveled, with stories to tell if only it could talk, chip:
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June 1st, 2020 at 7:40:40 PM permalink
When indexing this latest chip post, I updated the index listing for rdw4potus's much-earlier post from "Player's" to "Player's Casino", in order to make better sense of the following entry for "Player's Club". Just a bit of housekeeping for the thread, and I guess there is quite a bit of such cleanup needed these days, because I haven't been paying enough attention to some things.

The one that is currently bugging me the most is the number of CCotD posts for which the chip image is now either missing or is obscured by something added by the image hosting service. I am only aware of such issues after I scan back through the thread looking for something and encounter a missing image. Maybe someday I will get around to scrolling the entire thread, listing the defective posts, and asking each poster whether they still have the image and can get it reinstated at the hosting site.
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June 1st, 2020 at 7:53:41 PM permalink
I read my blog entries the other day. Many trip report pictures had broken links while others were still working. I host everything in a paid photobucket account, so that's frustrating. At the time, I thought only those miscellaneous pics were impacted; but, in retrospect, it's entirely possible that chip images are also affected.

I think you (doc) are the only one of us who can update old posts in this thread. So if i do have to make updates, I'll have to make a list and get BBB or OD to make them.
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June 1st, 2020 at 8:47:23 PM permalink
Since I don't know the source of the problem with the missing/messed-up images, I don't know whether it requires the post here to be edited or something to be fixed at the image-hosting site. Maybe both.

Also, I've never been sure just what "special" authority I have for editing this thread. When they imposed limits on the time that you could wait and still edit a post, I raised strong objections because it would destroy my ability to maintain a thread index. An adjustment was made, and I can edit my own posts in this thread, but not in other threads nor can I edit anyone else's posts in this thread. Somewhere along the way I got the impression that others may be able to edit their own posts in this thread without regard to delay, but I may be completely mistaken about that, which is one reason I so greatly appreciate the support the moderators have given to this thread.
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June 3rd, 2020 at 11:28:42 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Many trip report pictures had broken links while others were still working. I host everything in a paid photobucket account, so that's frustrating.


So I decided to check through the thread to identify just which chip images are missing, and I began that effort today. I am going through the CCotD posts in the index order, and I'm not really investigating (at least not yet) the later chip postings representing the same casinos. To this point, I have only made it down through California.

So far, rdw4potus, I have not found any of your chip images to be missing, but you are missing several of the photos you included to show the casinos themselves. I suppose you may have just linked to photos provided by the casinos' web sites, and those links no longer work.

To this point, I have found six CCotD posts made by wezvidz and Konbu for which the chip images are either missing or obscured. It appears in each case the image was stored at photobucket and is no longer available. My guess is that photobucket initially offered free hosting of images but later started to charge a fee (as in rdw's reference to a "paid photobucket account") but that wezvidz and Konbu elected not to pay the fee, so their images are lost, or at least not available for linking to in a CCotD post.

I'll keep going through the index, and when I have a reasonably complete list of missing chip images, I try to figure out whether we can do anything about that.
Last edited by: Doc on Jun 3, 2020
rdw4potus
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June 3rd, 2020 at 1:00:49 PM permalink
I find that I'm now somewhat trapped by Photobucket. I could use free hosting for future pictures. I suspect that's what I'll do. But all of the older pics from when I was running through my CCotD posts were on photobucket. if I stop paying, the links will break. It's several hundred images, so it's more than I could reasonably move and ask someone to edit my posts to point to. So I keep paying the annual fee to Photobucket. It IS easier to use for this purpose than other available options, and it DOES allow for easy access with a fairly decent mobile app. But it isn't free.

Yes, for the most part I used casino images that were available online. I took a handful myself, particularly when I did the tour-de-harrah's thing in 2011 and 2012, but most were just from casino websites or other guests. I suppose those have been moved/removed/changed in the several years since I posted them.
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RideTheEdge
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June 3rd, 2020 at 1:12:02 PM permalink
California chips part 1 of 3

I'm going to try 4 casinos per post to start for venues that have are already in the index, with attempts to link back to previous posts (hopefully making Doc's job easier) and avoid repeating chips that have already had images posted. Comments will usually be a little limited.

Apologies for the cropping and failing to rotate all the images properly. I put some chips too close to the edge of the scanner, plus my photo editing software cannot rotate an arbitrary amount without cropping if the chip was scanned near the edge of the scanner. Unfortunately, I discovered this after scanning all my chips and loaning the scanner out for a family photo scanning project. Another deficiency in my scanning ability is putting the chips too close together, resulting in some adjacent chips sneaking into the edited images, especially when I rotate the image.

Anybody know why so many $5 California chips are yellow instead of red?

Artichoke Joe's


Bicycle
Didn't notice how the inlay gets bubbled with time until looking at the hi-res scan.



Chumash
My $5 chip is different from RDW's


Commerce
I have four different $1 chips from Commerce, two are here. The $5 below is different from RDW's post.

RideTheEdge
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June 3rd, 2020 at 1:20:02 PM permalink
California chips part 2 of 3

Hawaiin Gardens/Gardens
RDW posted a "the Gardens" version of the $5 chip, while mine says Hawaiian Gardens.



Gold Country
PG already posted the $1, here is the back of that chip along with my $5. I picked up this chip on the way back from my niece's gymnastic's competition, and the Marysville chip in the next post on the way there. I got caught for speeding on the way back. The ticket was only $35, but the fees associated with the ticket brought the total over $300.



Hollywood Park
RDW posted the $5 chip in the official post, while the $1 was posted here


Hustler
The chips with photos of models are two sided, both sides pictured. All the others are the same front and back, only one side pictured.


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