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August 19th, 2019 at 7:12:47 AM permalink
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The last three posts in this thread were verbose, included photos of casino chips, and were presented by me. There have been no replies thus far. I have two more such posts in mind, but before doing that, I thought I would jump off topic and ask a grammar question to see whether anyone has a good (perhaps correct) answer...

In the first paragraph of my post two above this one – the one with the photo of my entire collection – the very last sentence says, "This configuration has spaces for 540 chips, so there are a total of nine empty spots in the corners."

Does that sentence sound right to you? Should the verb in that final phrase be "is" or "are"? It seems now that I made an error. Correct variations would be "... there is a total..." and "...there are nine empty spots." However, the "nine" keeps getting in the way of my thinking when I try to say/write "... there is/are a total of nine empty spots."

Ah, the annoying thoughts that a nerd has to deal with when writing/editing.


Doc, I enjoy reading your posts (sometimes I can only skim them based on time) and looking at the chippy pictures. But I don't always have anything to say. I've tried to start hitting the "Thanks" button in these circumstances (not just for your posts, but others under similar circumstances). But it's a new forum feature and I haven't totally adjusted to it yet.
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August 19th, 2019 at 7:12:48 AM permalink
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August 19th, 2019 at 11:44:57 AM permalink
Category: Canada
City: Point Edward, Ontario
Casino: Gateway - Point Edward


And now for the last new CCotD chip I have to offer for a while....

In June 2013, rdw4potus posted a $5 chip as a CCotD entry for the Point Edward Charity Casino, located in Ontario but just across the St. Clair River from Port Huron, Michigan. By August 2016, I had visited the place, and I posted an image of my $1 souvenir chip here.

RDW pointed out in his post that the casino had opened in 2000, and in mine I noted that in 2006 the name of the place changed to Ontario Lottery Gaming Point Edward, without any chips ever being issued that showed that name.

The place was later renamed "Gateway Casinos – Point Edward” and the MoGH Chip Guide claims that happened in 2017. A little search on this forum reveals that PokerGrinder told us in June of that year that the place “is being rebranded as Starlight Casino Point Edward.”

That appears to be four names that the casino has operated under, with two name changes having taken place since my visit three years ago. When I headed toward that region earlier this month, I was hoping that there would be chips in play with both the Gateway and Startlight names so that I could get two souvenirs with only one set of travel-and-expected-gaming-loss expenses.

Turns out that the casino does indeed have signage declaring that it is the Starlight Casino, but all of the chips in play say Gateway Casinos – Point Edward. I asked about that, and a dealer, a floor supervisor, and a cashier all said that the owner is Gateway and that Starlight is just one of their brands. They suggested that there is no reason for them to get chips saying Starlight. The chip does say Point Edward, which distinguishes it from the Gateway Casinos in nine other Canadian locations covered in the MoGH Chip Guide.

I played roulette at the casino, a game I very rarely play, but they did not have their craps table staffed at the time of day I was there. I declare that I lost $20 in US currency in that play, which is a combination of (1) losses at the table, (2) the cost of two-way currency exchange, and (3) a whopping 60¢ CA the cashier gave me in coin and which I added to the restaurant waitress’s tip, with the rest of her tip being included on the credit card slip. It seems that every trip I make into Canada, I wind up coming home with Canadian coins, and I never remember to take them with me when I go back. Decided this time it was better to leave that 60¢ with someone who might be able to use it.

The chip is a white Paulson RHC model with three triple edge inserts, each being gray-blue-gray. Together, the edge inserts occupy a little more than half of the chip perimeter. The center inlay background is white for the upper 55%-60% or so and black for the bottom portion, separated by two (thick & thin) orange bands. A similar double band forms a circle near the perimeter of the inlay, except for a matching Gateway logo at the bottom. In the white upper zone, there is a black Gateway logo, the words Gateway Casino also in black, and Point Edward in blue. In the lower black zone, the denomination appears in white. UV light reveals that the three blue edge inserts fluoresce, while the six gray ones do not.

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August 19th, 2019 at 12:08:44 PM permalink
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Thanks for the replies. It just bugs me that I know which verb is correct, but "There are a total of nine empty spots..." just comes out too smoothly. Proper grammar should sound correct to me and come out naturally after all of the years I spent in school and all of the years that English has been my only language.



Well, I'm going to disagree on the grammar question. I think that because the "a total of" is somewhat superfluous, it becomes a subordinate modifier to the statement "there are nine empty spots". And the reason using "are" comes out so easily is that it's correct usage.
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August 19th, 2019 at 12:36:18 PM permalink
Thanks for the vote of support for my intuition (or whatever) as opposed to my nerdy analysis. I guess that perhaps the "a total of" is just one of many superfluous things about me and my offerings.

I remember a question I asked one of my high school English teachers. I posed the sentence: "All of a sudden, there was a loud boom." Now grammatically, what in the world is that introductory phrase? Is "sudden" the object of the preposition "of"? Is "sudden" a noun in that case? Is "all of a sudden" a totally incorrect expression for "suddenly"? I don't think I got a definite answer in reply, but I guess I was a nerd even back then.
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August 19th, 2019 at 2:16:55 PM permalink
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Thanks for the vote of support for my intuition (or whatever) as opposed to my nerdy analysis. I guess that perhaps the "a total of" is just one of many superfluous things about me and my offerings.

I remember a question I asked one of my high school English teachers. I posed the sentence: "All of a sudden, there was a loud boom." Now grammatically, what in the world is that introductory phrase? Is "sudden" the object of the preposition "of"? Is "sudden" a noun in that case? Is "all of a sudden" a totally incorrect expression for "suddenly"? I don't think I got a definite answer in reply, but I guess I was a nerd even back then.



"There was a loud boom all of a sudden." Works too, but is not as interesting. So "all of a sudden" is a modifying descriptive subordinate clause to "There was a loud boom".

Not that I'm using the exact right grammatical labels and descriptors in any of this. But grammar works in my head in mysterious ways.
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August 27th, 2019 at 4:17:44 PM permalink
I a flying to Seattle to try to sign a new client. Will be leaving Thursday morning and getting there at 10am. Meeting will probably be about 2 hours. My flight home isnt until Friday night. I will have approx 24 hours to hit as many in Washington as possible. This gonna be interesting. Thinking about not getting a hotel and just drive around and sleep in car when needed. Not sure if I will ever get back to Washington in my life.
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August 27th, 2019 at 5:29:15 PM permalink
There are a ton in the area, it really depends how far you want to drive. I have a list of all the ones that I’ve gone to and I think that’s more than you’ll be able to hit. I have a list of the rest too but I doubt you want to drive that far.
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August 27th, 2019 at 5:46:41 PM permalink
My meeting is in Tacoma. Realistically I think with 90 min all directions, possibly more. There is a city way down south near Portland that has a few in the town. I may venture that direction but I want to get a list together first. You had a thread a while back listing all casinos. Maybe I will look at that.
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August 27th, 2019 at 6:40:49 PM permalink
I haven’t updated that in a long time. I can take a look at putting together a list for you tonight for a 90 minute radius around Tacoma.
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