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Konbu
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March 27th, 2014 at 7:38:28 PM permalink
Yes, the very edge is beveled, and the center is just a tiny bit recessed compared to the outside of the chip.

Tried to capture it at a good angle with the lighting I have so this is my best amateur effort.

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March 27th, 2014 at 7:44:31 PM permalink
Category: Asia
Country: Macau / Macao SAR, China
Casino: Venetian (澳門威尼斯人)


Today we have a chip from the Venetian in Macau. Again, as the Wizardofmacau site has a detailed review here (http://wizardofmacau.com/casinos/venetian.html) I don't think I need to duplicate any info on this thread. I got lost walking around the canal and the casino floor. The place was that big. It was impossible to count all the tables in sight while coming down the escalator before stepping off of it.

The chip here is $5 HKD, which I believe is the lowest denomination. Both sides are the same. It was a leftover (or I should say I pocketed it at the beginning) of a $2000 HKD buy-in (about $258 USD) with another $1000 HKD rebuy at the only craps table. The minimum was $200 HKD ($25.75). My $2995 HKD was gone in like 15-20 minutes. There were lots of onlookers taking up room but little action on the table. Also the action was really slow because many people were asking questions but the box was really patient in explaining what was going on almost after each roll.

I've visited other casinos in Macau but did not collect chips. I will be sure to do so on my next trip again to Macau.

The chip itself is identical on both sides.


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March 27th, 2014 at 8:06:08 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

A friend also found a craps table at the Lisboa(2013 visit). I don't know the minimum for sure but I think he said $100.HKD.



According to a current Chinese thread started in Dec 2013 at http://www.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=22775780&extra=page%3D1&page=73 ,the only table on the Macau peninsula is at the Sands Macau and there's another 4-5 tables in Cotai. And all are $200 minimum with the exception of 1 property which still has $100 on weekdays (I believe the City of Dreams in Cotai). Not cheap...

Biggest money maker in Macau is still the almighty bac.
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March 27th, 2014 at 8:16:38 PM permalink
Konbu,

Sorry to hear that the Venetian dice were misbehaving for you.

This chip appears to be a Matsui design.
NokTang
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March 27th, 2014 at 11:22:36 PM permalink
Quote: Konbu

According to a current Chinese thread started in Dec 2013 at http://www.discuss.com.hk/viewthread.php?tid=22775780&extra=page%3D1&page=73 ,the only table on the Macau peninsula is at the Sands Macau and there's another 4-5 tables in Cotai. And all are $200 minimum with the exception of 1 property which still has $100 on weekdays (I believe the City of Dreams in Cotai). Not cheap...

Biggest money maker in Macau is still the almighty bac.



I have just confirmed that there were two craps tables at the Lisboa, open at 14:00, each day, in 2013. It doesn't matter at the moment but like you, without craps available everywhere Macau not that appealing. The room rates are well over $100.usd a day and comps don't even seem like they exist. I still think of it as a mob type deal, mobsters in China put groups together, front the money, and away they go to the Baccarat tables.
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March 27th, 2014 at 11:27:38 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

I have just confirmed that there were two craps tables at the Lisboa, open at 14:00, each day, in 2013. It doesn't matter at the moment but like you, without craps available everywhere Macau not that appealing. The room rates are well over $100.usd a day and comps don't even seem like they exist. I still think of it as a mob type deal, mobsters in China put groups together, front the money, and away they go to the Baccarat tables.



That is almost exactly what they do, only difference is they are not called the "mob" they are called "junkets" :)

I think they should simply end craps in Macau. Concentrate on what the people want and enjoy to play. The problem is that there are only a finite amount of tables allowed in Macau each year. You cannot swap out one craps game for 2 or 3 baccarat games......

Tough place to gamble if you don't have a decent sized bankroll
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March 28th, 2014 at 5:30:30 PM permalink
State: Georgia
City: Brunswick
Casino: Emerald Princess II (http://www.emeraldprincesscasino.com/)


Today we are returning stateside to the only casino in Georgia. There used to be another boat in Savannah but because it was opening its casino while still in GA waters it was shut down a few years back. This casino boat docks just south of Brunswick, GA. It has 1 craps with 2x odds, 2 CSP, 2 roulette, and 8 BJ in 1 pit all with $5 mins, and another pit by the cashier with 4 BJ with $25 mins. The second floor has 6 poker tables. The cruises are daily from 7PM-12AM, with an extra day cruise on Friday and Saturday from 11AM-4PM. The boarding cost is $10 and includes a light meal which resembles school cafeteria food, and a return to port snack of 1 item on rotation which could include egg roll, nachos, or biscuit and gravy. Alcohol is $4-6 unless you have a vip card, then it's free drinks and boarding. I don't think there are specific criteria to meet in order to get the card. Just have to become a familiar face and not be an ass.

The Victory casino boat in Port Canaveral, FL is much bigger and spacious, but due to its location, the EP II has its own clientele as well.

The ship takes about an hour to go from dock to 3 miles offshore. The cruise along the Brunswick River through the Saint Simons Sound and out to the Atlantic is very pretty. It also takes about an hour to return to dock. So actual gambling time is about 3 hours which is plenty enough of standing at the craps table. There's always an interesting mix of people on the weekend, like people being overdressed as if they were going to a classy club, and people overdrinking (or not) and throwing their guts out to the rhythm of the waves.

Anyway, anyone planning on visiting should bring a coat, even on a 90F day of Georgia summer heat, because the AC is really strong (in a futile attempt to clear the smoke).







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March 28th, 2014 at 6:01:42 PM permalink
I have lived in Georgia four times in my life, the most recent being for 30 years, up until after the Emerald Princess I and II were operating there. I have never been on any of the casino ships operating out of Georgia.

This "wet chip" is, of course, Paulson's very familiar Reversed Hat and Cane design.




Edit 5/23/16: I finally got the chance to sail on the Emerald Princess II myself some two years after Konbu posted his chip above. I added my own comments here.
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NokTang
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March 28th, 2014 at 10:41:10 PM permalink
Quote: Konbu


Today we are returning stateside to the only casino in Georgia. There used to be another boat in Savannah but because it was opening its casino while still in GA waters it was shut down a few years back. This casino boat docks just south of Brunswick, GA.



Thanks for the memories. There used to be a boat in Fernandina Beach, I think it's the one moved to Brunswick or Savannah. My understanding back then was that the ship had to reach 12 miles offshore, not 3. Perhaps it was open at 3miles and touch the 12 mile mark? The Gulf of Mexico laws were different. In addition, not to ramble, there were several junket operators in Savannah and Jacksonville which were "hurt" by these cruises to nowhere. Gamblers no longer needed to fly to AC or Mississippi for their fix.
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March 28th, 2014 at 11:06:10 PM permalink
Don't know about before but I believe it's 3 miles Atlantic and 9 miles off in the gulf. The dealers remove the table covers and start prepping before boat sails past St. Simons and out to the Atlantic, or about 30 mins into the cruise. Cards are thrown into the shufflers, chip tray covers are unlocked etc. When "the casino is now open" general announcement is made that's when dealers go around the table to make change. If there's a "big roller" like 1k+ then they'll count the money and cut the cheques but still wait until the announcement before completing the transaction.
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