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May 10th, 2016 at 6:53:43 AM permalink
Quote: Wonko33

I fixed the post, I agree that it is better with the usual formatting.

This has been my favorite thread for a while now and I was glad when I saw I could contribute.


And we were/are glad that you did -- both fixed the post and contributed! I have added that one to the index on page 1.

I can never remember how long the new rules allow you to edit a post. If you get back here and that option is still available, could you make those first three lines boldface? Just put [b] before the beginning of the first line and [/b] at the end of the third line.

As for starting to collect chips, well, I played in my first casino (on a cruise ship) in 1976, when I was 30 years old and kept a $1 chip as just a souvenir of the cruise. I didn't know that I was a collector way back then. I visited a few other casinos along the way but didn't become a chip collector until 2003. I posted the story about that when I posted my Bellagio chip.
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May 10th, 2016 at 8:06:52 AM permalink
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That is true I can't say I have ever seen dice for sale in Canadian casino. Are you from Canada or Seattle area? Oh that is too bad that you started collecting after Venice, that would have been a very cool chip to have in your collection. I am glad that I started collecting chips right when I started gambling so that I didn't miss any. That would drive me nuts lol.



I'm in the Northwest but have family in Eastern Canada-

We just like going up to the Vancouver BC area to gamble because there is no smoking and because I am a bit leery of tribal casinos. I like to have all my "rights" active at all times ;) (why forfeit our rights to fairly resolve disputes? ) . Also, I prefer dealing with businesses that pay taxes. Finally we don't have real slot machines and video poker in WA state.


Edit : I'm too late to edit the boldface header :( . I'll be more conscientious next time.
So Wizard, still no basic strategy for strip poker huh?
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May 10th, 2016 at 9:11:15 AM permalink
Wonko it must also be nice if you hit a jackpot that you don't have to pay tax on it.

As far as the heading I sent a PM to Babs asking her to edit your post and add bolding.
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May 10th, 2016 at 1:56:43 PM permalink
The die is a little out of focus but it looks like it was drilled through the middle pip on the 3 side?

For a short while I tried to collect a pair of dice when I collected my chips but it was too much work.

Also, I got sick and did not make the trip to PR. I hope to make it up later this year.
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May 10th, 2016 at 2:21:37 PM permalink
Quote: Konbu

The die is a little out of focus but it looks like it was drilled through the middle pip on the 3 side?

For a short while I tried to collect a pair of dice when I collected my chips but it was too much work.

Also, I got sick and did not make the trip to PR. I hope to make it up later this year.

Konbu, sorry to hear you were ill and missed a planned trip. That just sucks.
On the other hand, if you are pregnant, or planning on becoming pregnant, I would also now sell my tix to the upcoming Olympics in Brazil ;-)
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May 10th, 2016 at 3:37:39 PM permalink
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Konbu, sorry to hear you were ill and missed a planned trip. That just sucks.
On the other hand, if you are pregnant, or planning on becoming pregnant, I would also now sell my tix to the upcoming Olympics in Brazil ;-)

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May 10th, 2016 at 4:21:52 PM permalink
the holes are not through and through, they just punch out a little chunk out of 2 of the sides -
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May 11th, 2016 at 12:01:25 AM permalink
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This site has a series of progress reports on both the Travel Plaza and the Casino. The latest report says 130 slot machines and does not mention table games at all. Soft opening on 5/23/16 and grand opening on 5/25/16. Doesn't seem like the kind of place that would operate table games, but then there is the Alamo in Las Vegas. Don't think I'll bother putting it on my list. Let me know if you find out I am mistaken.


I had sent a message to their Facebook page and they got back to me today. You were right it will only be slot machines. Darn.
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May 11th, 2016 at 9:38:14 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

Wonko it must also be nice if you hit a jackpot that you don't have to pay tax on it.

As far as the heading I sent a PM to Babs asking her to edit your post and add bolding.



Fixed it. :)
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May 11th, 2016 at 9:51:31 AM permalink
Thanks, BBB! It's clearly just nerdiness that makes some of us want to see consistency in the formatting of these posts, but it's really nice to have an admin who is supportive of folks with this personality disorder.
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May 15th, 2016 at 11:29:19 AM permalink
Doc I am too lazy to figure out if a date was posted yet on here but the WaterView Casino will officially open May 24.

I came across something that I personally have not decided what I am going to do with it but I figured I would put it out there. Bally's Tunica has released new chips and sort of a new name. The chip that you and I both have is a dirty stained (yes I hate this chip lol) Bally's Saloon and Gambling Hall chip. The new $1 chips they just introduced are Bally's Casino chips and look 1000x better than the old chips. So here is my question and I have been debating the answer myself. Do you consider this a name change and worthy of a recollection? I am leaning to the no side as far as new name/casino but I would get this new chip to replace my disgusting one if and when I am ever back in Tunica.
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May 15th, 2016 at 2:10:26 PM permalink
Interesting situation there with Bally's. I'm not sure of (1) what the situation really is or (2) how I feel about it from a collector's perspective. As I noted when I posted my Bally's Saloon and Gambling Hall chip (just calling it "Bally's"), the histories of both this casino and the Bally's name are a bit convoluted.

The always-reliable Wikipedia has a page on this casino, on which they say, "In January, 2014, RIH Acquisitions MS II assumed the management of Bally's Tunica along with Resorts Casino Tunica." That might suggest that something happened that January that would justify a "new name = new casino ---> new chip needed" attitude.

On the other hand, that quoted sentence from Wiki says the same thing happened at the Resorts Casino, and their linked page just says, "On November 9, 2011, Foundation Gaming Group from Gulfport, MS assumed the management of Resorts Casino and Hotel along with Bally's Casino Tunica." It doesn't say anything at all about a subsequent change in 2014. I don't know whether this suggests that one of the Wiki pages is just out of date or that the "management" issue is one that collectors shouldn't care about and is different from a true change.

I will be in Tunica for a couple of nights next month, staying at the Gold Strike just 3,000 ft. away (straight-line route). I suppose I might stop over at Bally's and make some kind of impulse decision then.
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May 15th, 2016 at 3:09:57 PM permalink
Serious stuff.
Could hinge on whether or not they put an apostrophe in Ballys or Bally's ;-)

Sparkles just read me the riot act on losses last year as she is working on tax returns. While I'm cooking dinner no less. No Blackjack tonight for me, doesn't matter how good dinner is........

It was nice fiddlin' round wid youse guys.
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May 15th, 2016 at 11:01:09 PM permalink
I think I have decided that for me it is the same place. Although I have been known to waver here and there. My reasoning is it is still Bally's, they just changed the extra at the end of the name. It is like when a casino goes from Soandso Casino to Soandso Casino and Hotel, that is the same thing to me and that is what I think this situation is. Now I won't go out of my way to get the new Bally's chip but I will grab a new one if I end up back in Tunica because like I said I really hate the current chip that I have.
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May 15th, 2016 at 11:05:57 PM permalink
Makes sense. If you were to collect one of every different $5 chip from Greektown here, you have about 50 different ones with all the different themes.

P.S. no idea if they'll get new chips with the name change coming, but I'll keep you guys posted.
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May 16th, 2016 at 12:26:21 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Makes sense. If you were to collect one of every different $5 chip from Greektown here, you have about 50 different ones with all the different themes.

P.S. no idea if they'll get new chips with the name change coming, but I'll keep you guys posted.


Well we aren't really talking about getting all the chips available like at Harrah's they have 40 kinds of $5 chips. This was more because they made a slight name change and put it on a chip. If they had put out a new Bally's chip with the exact same name I wouldn't even think about getting new one. It is sort of like Aliante and Aliante Station, Doc got one from both, while I eventually agreed they were two casinos I debated a lot whether they were the same casino. For me personally it didn't really matter since I never went when it was Aliante Station but I still debated whether it should be considered a new casino.

Anyways as far as JACK Greektown I am assuming that they will have new chips when they do the changeover. I would be extremely surprised if they continued to use the old chips as they don't mention the new casino name at all. I currently have it on my list of chips to get. Thanks IBYA I would appreciate the update when you know.
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May 16th, 2016 at 8:26:34 AM permalink
Doc didn't you mention you would be passing through Detroit on a trip soon?
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May 16th, 2016 at 11:39:19 AM permalink
Not exactly. My wife and I have discussed preliminary plans for a loop trip through Ohio, Michigan, Ontario, and New York. There is a possibility that we could make that trip late this summer.

The only trips for which we have made plans to the point of booking anything are a trip to Florida starting tomorrow and a trip to Mississippi in June.
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May 16th, 2016 at 12:06:39 PM permalink
Oh I see. What's going on in Florida? Cruising?

Is the Mississippi trip to Tunica or is there more to it?
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May 16th, 2016 at 1:14:39 PM permalink
FL is just an Atlantic beach trip to see some friends & ride a couple of day boats. In MS, we will stop in Biloxi, Vicksburg, & Tunica.
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May 16th, 2016 at 1:30:35 PM permalink
So Scarlet Pearl, Bok Homa, WaterView and possibly Bally's depending on what you decide?
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May 16th, 2016 at 3:08:24 PM permalink
You got it!
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May 18th, 2016 at 1:45:39 PM permalink
You missed one million views! Congrats Doc, pretty cool accomplishment.
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May 18th, 2016 at 1:56:35 PM permalink
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You missed one million views! Congrats Doc, pretty cool accomplishment.




Awesome!! Way to go Doc on a great thread. I should curse in celebration so that I can be the first person suspended for a post here:-)
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May 19th, 2016 at 11:30:52 AM permalink
Two employees dead at the Silver Nugget this morning. One was murdered by the other, and the murderer was killed by the cops.

I think we have a new leader in the "is having this chip really worth it" category.
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May 19th, 2016 at 11:37:49 AM permalink
I am going to make a run to Jack Cleveland tomorrow so I will see if they have new chips as well.
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May 19th, 2016 at 11:40:09 AM permalink
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State: Pennsylvania
City: Pittsburgh
Casino: Rivers


There were four organizations actively competing for the Pittsburgh casino license, which was eventually won in late 2006 by PITG Gaming LLC, owned by Don Barden's Majestic Star Casino LLC. The plan was that the new casino would bear the Majestic Star brand.

Barden encountered financial difficulties during construction, in part due to lawsuits from the losing bidders. He wound up having to sell 75% of his position in the venture. The new majority owners changed the name to Rivers Casino to reflect its location near the convergence of the city's three rivers.

The casino opened in August 2009 and added table games in July 2010. The table games area had expanded by the time my wife and I visited in August 2011, later on the same day that we watched the harness races (and I played craps) down at Meadows Racetrack and Casino half an hour to the south of the city.

Rivers Casino now claims to offer over 2,900 gaming machines and more than 70 table games, plus a 30-table poker room. Their table games include craps, roulette, three-card poker, Pai Gow poker, mini-baccarat, Mississippi Stud Poker, 4-card poker, Let-it-Ride, Big Six, and blackjack.

Their web site includes a table that lists the "approximate" player's club points that are earned per hour playing each of their table games, based on average bet. That seems more straight forward than the way most clubs treat table games players, but it's a bit surprising to me that the number of points earned is not always directly proportional to average bet.

I had a bit of difficulty navigating my way into and out of that neighborhood of Pittsburgh and a lot of uncertainty as to just which building the casino was in. I finally found the place and played craps for an hour and a half, ending up down $125.

The chip shown below is a white RHC Paulson with four narrow edge inserts in a yellowish-green shade. The center inlay is blue and white with blue and black text, with the blue text on blue background being surprisingly readable. UV light reveals the hidden Paulson logo.



Rivers has a $1 chip with a commemorative theme for their anniversary a few years back, Do you want a pic of it in here?

http://www.themogh.org/cg_chip2.php?id=PAPIRI
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May 19th, 2016 at 11:41:06 AM permalink
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I am going to make a run to Jack Cleveland tomorrow so I will see if they have new chips as well.


They do. The MoGH had the chips up the day after they reopened. The chips look similar to the previous chips.
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May 19th, 2016 at 12:15:15 PM permalink
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Two employees dead at the Silver Nugget this morning. One was murdered by the other, and the murderer was killed by the cops.

I think we have a new leader in the "is having this chip really worth it" category.



Wow! That wouldn't have even been in my top 5 before this news.
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May 21st, 2016 at 2:41:47 PM permalink
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I am going to make a run to Jack Cleveland tomorrow so I will see if they have new chips as well.


Did you end up grabbing a chip?
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May 21st, 2016 at 6:39:49 PM permalink
I did. Now my laziness will prevail. Over/under of me posting is 6 days.
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May 21st, 2016 at 7:10:01 PM permalink
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I did. Now my laziness will prevail. Over/under of me posting is 6 days.


I think it took me well over a week to post my chips I gathered during Spring Fling so no judgement coming from me.
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May 21st, 2016 at 8:35:37 PM permalink
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I did. Now my laziness will prevail. Over/under of me posting is 6 days.

Two things: (1) If you have your own Rivers commemorative chip (not just a link to someone else's), go ahead and post an image. I'll add a link to it back where we first covered the casino in this thread.

(2) As for your Jack Cleveland chip, let's see whether you can get a photo and prepare a properly-formatted and informative CCotD "official" entry before I can get back home and do the equivalent thing for my one new chip from my current trip.
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May 22nd, 2016 at 4:06:03 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

Two things: (1) If you have your own Rivers commemorative chip (not just a link to someone else's), go ahead and post an image. I'll add a link to it back where we first covered the casino in this thread.

(2) As for your Jack Cleveland chip, let's see whether you can get a photo and prepare a properly-formatted and informative CCotD "official" entry before I can get back home and do the equivalent thing for my one new chip from my current trip.



I will add the rivers chip. If you have the Cleveland chip I will let you do the official write up. You will probably have more detail than I would.
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May 22nd, 2016 at 4:48:56 PM permalink
Confusion. Probably my fault. No, I do not have the new chip from Cleveland. I have a completely different one from maybe 800 or so miles away. I was sorta challenging you to see which of us could get a new chip post prepared first. I'm not feeling all that motivated, so you have a great chance for victory.
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May 22nd, 2016 at 6:46:17 PM permalink
Haha ok. I will change my over under to 4 days now.
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May 23rd, 2016 at 5:15:35 PM permalink
Whoops! My mistake. Challenge off. It seems I won't be posting a new CCotD entry after all.

As my wife and I returned from our visit to Florida, we stopped off in Brunswick, GA and sailed on the Emerald Princess II casino boat, where I collected my souvenir chip. I had in mind to post that one upon my return home, having completely forgotten that Konbu had provided this thread with that chip some two years and two months ago!

I did have one strange experience aboard this boat. I am familiar with these day-cruise casino boats having everything shut down until they reach some distance off shore (3 miles, I think), but it certainly appeared that there were folks playing the slot machines by the time the boat pulled away from the pier. Table games didn't open for more like an hour and a half after that.

During that period, I asked one of the dealers about those slot machines that appeared to be in operation. He said that under Georgia Law, you could not play for real money within the state boundaries, though at times there had been "casinos" where you could win merchandise. In the case of the boat's casino, it seems that the machine credits are not viewed as "real" money. You can put currency in, play the machine, and even print out a TITO slip while still in the state's waters. You just can't cash it in until you are outside of the state's jurisdiction. Same issue becomes a problem if you are too slow to redeem a ticket on the way back in.

That seems a bit screwy to me, but there's a lot of strange things that go on in Georgia. I'm still not sure why playing for clay chips inside the state is a violation if playing for a TITO slip is not. Seems as if we should be able to buy in as we leave the pier, play for an additional hour and a half, and then redeem the chips before returning to Georgia waters. Anyone have any insight on this?

My souvenir chip is just like the one that Konbu posted, and I can now verify that there is nothing on the chip that fluoresces under UV light.
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May 23rd, 2016 at 5:28:26 PM permalink
You should not question how things are done down here in Gawjaa.
Your picture is already here in several posts.
Someone might notice your question.
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May 23rd, 2016 at 5:39:25 PM permalink
I wasn't born there, and I don't live there now. However, I have lived in Georgia four times in my life, with the first being 1946-1951 and the most recent being 1978-2008. Altogether, more than half of my life has been spent living in Georgia. I made plenty of critical comments even while a resident.

You just can't claim that there is not something screwy about a state where Lester Maddox was governor. And I was living there when he was elected -- not by the general population of registered voters but instead by the state legislature!
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May 23rd, 2016 at 6:36:02 PM permalink
Question Doc:
Do you consider that chip to be from Georgia and therefore a chip from the USA or is it a cruise ship chip or... both! I blew your mind there didn't I, threw you for a loop? No? Ok well I still think the question is valid. I think that I am starting to sound like 2F a bit.
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May 23rd, 2016 at 8:25:24 PM permalink
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Do you consider that chip to be from Georgia and therefore a chip from the USA or is it a cruise ship chip or... both!


I've been considering the day-cruise casino boats as if they are just located at their ports, though that can present some difficulty if one of them moves to a new base port. I think there is a greater tendency for them to go bankrupt, be sold, then operate at the same or different port under a new name. From my experience, there is a tremendous difference between these boats and real cruise ships, so I treat them differently.
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May 23rd, 2016 at 8:53:57 PM permalink
Doc, glad you made it to the EPII. Hope the waves weren't too strong, and hope the food was edible for you. EPII will always be a special place for me. I was a regular there and it's also where I started playing craps.
The electronic games are always on so you could even play the blackjack game at port and while underway to the open waters, but the slots with actual reels are not turned on until the "casino" is open, 3 miles out.
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May 23rd, 2016 at 10:42:27 PM permalink
Does it really take 90 minutes to get 3 miles off shore? Does the propulsion system consist of a two chipmunks and a house fan?
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May 23rd, 2016 at 11:02:16 PM permalink
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Does it really take 90 minutes to get 3 miles off shore? Does the propulsion system consist of a two chipmunks and a house fan?



Barrier islands, speed limits, backwash, manatee zones, local pilot requirements etc. Depends on where the port is located. Some are not on the beach. Doc can tell you the particulars about that boat; I don't know it. But not unusual. Cruised out of Tampa a couple of times on major cruise ships; almost 2 hours to intl waters from there.
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May 24th, 2016 at 12:02:40 AM permalink
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Does it really take 90 minutes to get 3 miles off shore? Does the propulsion system consist of a two chipmunks and a house fan?


I just about pissed myself laughing Aye. You win the Internet for today. Since I didn't read it until Tuesday that means you have a whole 22 hours of owning the Internet.
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May 24th, 2016 at 6:14:13 AM permalink
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Does it really take 90 minutes to get 3 miles off shore?

BBB is correct. Check out GoogleMaps and look at the difference between the docking points for two of these boats. First search for the Victory Casino Cruises in Port Canaveral, FL. The dock for that boat is only a couple thousand feet from the open sea. Then search for the Emerald Princess II casino boat, docking at the base of the Sidney Lanier Bridge on US17 just south of Brunswick, GA. From there, they must sail several miles out around Jekyll Island just to get to the coast.

BTW, when we arrived at the Emerald Princess II last Saturday evening, there was congestion on the tiny Gisco Point Drive approaching the pier, with multiple vehicles and some police officers restricting/guiding the traffic. We couldn't tell what was going on.

At the ticket booth, we learned that it was a photo shoot for some new 2017 prototype Lincoln automobile, presumably using the rather dramatic Sidney Lanier Bridge as a backdrop. Maybe I'll see that ad some day. Check this site for four images and a write-up about the bridge. You can see the very end of the Emerald Princess's pier at the lower left corner of the first image. A search on the bridge's name should lead to a number of additional photos, if you are into such things.
TwoFeathersATL
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May 24th, 2016 at 7:20:32 AM permalink
Huge differences between ports for Cruise ships too.
Takes no time at all from Canaveral, but takes forever from Jacksonville, for instance.
Haven't done the Victory out of JAX, I"ll have to look up where it docks.
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May 24th, 2016 at 7:37:01 AM permalink
Victory Jacksonville docks out on A1A near Naval Station Mayport. I've only been there once, on a dark rainy night, do I didn't really get my bearings.
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May 24th, 2016 at 8:00:07 AM permalink
I checked it out on Maps. Close to open water, like Canaveral Victory.
Looked at Emerald Princess too and it didn't look all that far from open water.
Hard to scale correctly on maps though.
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May 26th, 2016 at 12:56:12 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

So is that a no to driving randomly around MI, WI, MN, IL, SD and ND? RDW will be very disappointed.

P.S after my chip collecting last week I now I have every currently available chip in Nevada. Over/under that lasting for more than a month? I have 3 casinos that I think will require collecting within the next 4-5 months. Nevada changes too quickly.



I've made a final decision that because I have no life and no hobby, I'm going to make a concerted effort to get out and collect. Sad to say, as long as I've lived in WI, until about a year ago, I'd only been 2 of the casinos here and even now, I only have chips to 3 of them.

The last time I looked at this, I was surprised at how busy I'll be able to keep myself just in the rest of WI, the UP and eastern MN.
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