Gambling With Cards in North Carolina?
I'll take bets on whether or not Blackjack pays 6/5 or 3/2.
New tribes... Heck, the ultrasuccessful "Indian" casino in Connecticut was by a tribe that was the creation of a law firm. Get yourself a lawyer and a genealogist and you too can have an Indian Tribe, particularly in an area where those darned Yankees burned the courthouse down.
Shows what happens in the self-proclaimed Bible Belt when tax revenue falls and every other state is doing it.
Care to show some proof? Or at least name the tribe you're talking about?Quote: FleaStiffINew tribes... Heck, the ultrasuccessful "Indian" casino in Connecticut was by a tribe that was the creation of a law firm.
Quote: DJTeddyBearCare to show some proof? Or at least name the tribe you're talking about?
That'd be your Mashantucket Pequot nation. Federally recognized in 1983 after a protracted legal battle and some fancy footwork, and opened the high-stakes bingo hall that morphed into Foxwoods in 1986.
In 1973, an old American Indian woman dies with nothing left of her tribe It seems to signal the end of the Mashantucket Pequot tribe. Over the course of the next three decades, the reservation grows to more than two thousand acres and becomes home to Foxwoods, the largest casino in the world, grossing more than $1 billion per year. The Pequots are reborn, immensely wealthy, and in possession of an enormous amount of political influence.
It begins with the grand ambitions of two men. One, an unemployed navy brat and outsider, is a failed preacher with the uncanny ability to charm; the other is fresh out of law school and armed with a brilliant legal theory to help impoverished Indian tribes. Together they resurrect the Pequots and battle the local townspeople to aggressively expand their reservation, taking on the state government for the right to gamble on their land. Embracing their cause are misguided and misinformed government officials and a former mob prosecutor who brings Malaysian financiers to the table.
Author Jeff Benedict shines a light on the dreamers and the deal makers, the backroom politicking and courtroom machinations, the trusts and betrayals, and the world of high-powered attorneys, politicians, tribal leaders, and financiers who made the Pequots what they are today.
Quote: FleaStiffI don't see how the exclusivity provisions can be considered binding upon the future legislatures or governors anymore than there is any way to guarantee the legislators won't decrease funding for education due to the gambling funds already going there directly.
I view the "exclusivity" aspects of the agreement, as stated in the article, to be pretty much a joke. The only town in western NC that can be called a city, without laughing at the same time, is Asheville. The great majority of Asheville is east of I-26, the newly-agreed-upon demarcation line for exclusivity. If any commercial (non-tribal) casino developer were permitted to build in the state, they would be very unlikely to have any interest in a location west of I-26. It is almost equivalent to granting the Pipa Aha Macav (the tribe with the Avi casino resort) an "exclusivity" that there could not be any other casinos in Nevada constructed more than two miles south of Laughlin.
Quote: DocI view the "exclusivity" aspects of the agreement, as stated in the article, to be pretty much a joke. The only town in western NC that can be called a city, without laughing at the same time, is Asheville. The great majority of Asheville is east of I-26, the newly-agreed-upon demarcation line for exclusivity. If any commercial (non-tribal) casino developer were permitted to build in the state, they would be very unlikely to have any interest in a location west of I-26. It is almost equivalent to granting the Pipa Aha Macav (the tribe with the Avi casino resort) an "exclusivity" that there could not be any other casinos in Nevada constructed more than two miles south of Laughlin.
LOL! Very good point, sir. What do you think the point of that line is? Is the trade-off basically that Harrah's will always be the closest casino to Atlanta, but other tribes may eventually cut off the business from eastern NC and SC?
Quote: FleaStiffWithout Reservation: The Making of America's Most Powerful Indian Tribe and Foxwoods the World's Largest Casino
In 1973, an old American Indian woman dies with nothing left of her tribe It seems to signal the end of the Mashantucket Pequot tribe. Over the course of the next three decades, the reservation grows to more than two thousand acres and becomes home to Foxwoods, the largest casino in the world, grossing more than $1 billion per year. The Pequots are reborn, immensely wealthy, and in possession of an enormous amount of political influence.
It begins with the grand ambitions of two men. One, an unemployed navy brat and outsider, is a failed preacher with the uncanny ability to charm; the other is fresh out of law school and armed with a brilliant legal theory to help impoverished Indian tribes. Together they resurrect the Pequots and battle the local townspeople to aggressively expand their reservation, taking on the state government for the right to gamble on their land. Embracing their cause are misguided and misinformed government officials and a former mob prosecutor who brings Malaysian financiers to the table.
Author Jeff Benedict shines a light on the dreamers and the deal makers, the backroom politicking and courtroom machinations, the trusts and betrayals, and the world of high-powered attorneys, politicians, tribal leaders, and financiers who made the Pequots what they are today.
Jeff Benedict is originally from New London which is a short ride from Foxwoods. The Indians hate him and everyone else seems to agree with him. Have you read Revenge of the Pequots by Kim Eisler? If you haven't check it out, you'll find it interesting.
Quote: rdw4potusWhat do you think the point of that line is? Is the trade-off basically that Harrah's will always be the closest casino to Atlanta, but other tribes may eventually cut off the business from eastern NC and SC?
I am not sure at all. As for Harrah's being closest to Atlanta, they have slot parlors in Alabama, and there are strong arguments in both directions there -- get rid of what exists vs. open up to more. If a real casino were ever opened in Birmingham, for example, it would be a lot closer and a far easier drive than Cherokee, NC.
If you only want to consider potential casinos in NC, Charlotte is a little farther from Atlanta, but it is an all-intertate drive. If NC ever decided to allow full casinos, which I don't expect will happen any time soon, I think Charlotte would be a reasonable site -- large city, good airport, good highways, not the capital, close to SC to draw drive-in money from out of state, etc.
As the article states, the Cherokee tribe initially wanted exclusivity throughout the state and gradually negotiated that lower and lower. I can only interpret an I-26 demarcation as a giving-up-but-saving-face gesture. I have no knowledge of other tribes interested in developing casinos in NC.
