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dm
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November 23rd, 2011 at 7:34:56 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

None. Mostly, football fans take their game less seriously than losing Stanley Cup finalists in Canada. Most of the time, and in most parts of the world.

That sure was not my understanding. I've heard of fans being trampled on occasion in England, Ireland not sure where. I considered
soccer fans to be the absolute rowdiest. Players in South America having their lives threatened bu unadoring fans. Never heard much about hockey fan violence except that one incident.

JohnnyQ
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November 24th, 2011 at 1:03:26 PM permalink
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Video poker, of course. All you poker aspirants would probably get eaten alive. Why do all of you refuse to accept that VP pros make a living at it? Not 7 figures exactly but neither do I. Oh well, I saved Frank the trouble.



I like video poker, but boy if I had to play it all the time
it would be excruciatingly boring !

So, I'm not sure what would make the most sense.
Something with a bit of social interaction would be
nice, so I guess that for me would Blackjack or
Poker.
There's emptiness behind their eyes There's dust in all their hearts They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
thecesspit
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November 24th, 2011 at 1:08:02 PM permalink
Quote: dm

That sure was not my understanding. I've heard of fans being trampled on occasion in England, Ireland not sure where. I considered
soccer fans to be the absolute rowdiest. Players in South America having their lives threatened bu unadoring fans. Never heard much about hockey fan violence except that one incident.



I'll confess my tongue was slightly in cheek. Passions are high at soccer games, deaths relatively uncommon.

The trampling you mention is 1991 Hillsborough disaster, which was a black day in English football. However, it wasn't really due to rioting fans, but due to bad stadium design and guidelines, and criminal act by the officer in charge of crowd control that day.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
dm
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November 24th, 2011 at 3:23:57 PM permalink
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I like video poker, but boy if I had to play it all the time
it would be excruciatingly boring !

So, I'm not sure what would make the most sense.
Something with a bit of social interaction would be
nice, so I guess that for me would Blackjack or
Poker.



The question was "make a living at". The only thing available to everyone at 100 plus is VP. Frank has made it pretty clear it's not all fun. Not that many jobs are. Does outside construction work in 15 degree weather sound to you? Janitorial? Check out register at Walmart? Cab driver?
dm
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November 24th, 2011 at 3:26:14 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I'll confess my tongue was slightly in cheek. Passions are high at soccer games, deaths relatively uncommon.

The trampling you mention is 1991 Hillsborough disaster, which was a black day in English football. However, it wasn't really due to rioting fans, but due to bad stadium design and guidelines, and criminal act by the officer in charge of crowd control that day.



I distinctly remember during world cup stuff about team members being threatened by their own fans(South America, Argentina, not sure).
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November 24th, 2011 at 4:28:14 PM permalink
Well, see Escobar dying for the own goal back in the day...
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
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November 24th, 2011 at 7:22:03 PM permalink
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Well, see Escobar dying for the own goal back in the day...

own goal, missing a basket, making too many baskets, kicking instead of running, ... it just doesn't matter much when the amount of money lost by the bookies is high enough. One Oriental couple in urban UK is said to have died a lingering death over a dead cell phone battery when they were unable to make a critical phone call during a "live" broadcast and some Oriental bookies were unable to do a twelve second past post on some Ukrainian bookies.
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December 1st, 2011 at 9:49:18 AM permalink
The answer to me would be an easy "Blackjack," followed by "Other Casino Game." Blackjack is beatable on several different levels, the market is huge, and casinos are used to getting heavy action on the game. This can make being a pro at "Other Casino Game" tough at times. Although if I were to make a living at any of these games for say, over a decade, using techniques that are generally best left out of public discussion, I would probably consider mentioning said techniques in thread after thread to be bad for my job security!
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December 1st, 2011 at 10:19:09 AM permalink
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Due to an oddity in the way games were scored in a Carribbean Cup qualifier in soccer, once both teams were trying to score an own goal, with teams defending their opponents goals :

1994: In the preliminary round of the 1994 Caribbean Cup, Barbados deliberately scored an own goal in a successful attempt to advance to the final stage by forcing golden goal extra time against Grenada, as an unusual tournament rule awarded a two goal victory to a team that won in extra time. Needing a two goal victory to advance, Barbados found themselves up 2–1 with three minutes left in regulation time. After Grenada realised what had happened, they in turn tried to score against their own net while Barbados defended both goals for the final three minutes of the match.[6] Barbados won the game in extra time and advanced to the next round.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Own_goal

A similar thing it seems happened in a Thailand / Indonesia game (see same page).



This reminds me of the Little League World Series a couple of years ago (I think my facts are correct): The tiebreaker was run differential, and a team needed to win their game byat least 3 runs to advance to the next round. They were up 1 in the bottom of the last inning, but the coach just had them play it out and they didn't advance. He should have allowed the other team to score and tie, so they would have had the chance to score 3 in the top of the 7th (extra inning). I think he was asked about it, and said "Well, we were just playing to win this game..."
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December 6th, 2011 at 7:18:39 AM permalink
Thanks, everyone, for your votes and opinions. Since the thread is all but dead, I'll give my thoughts on the subject. From my perspective, the nearest casino is the Soaring Eagle. The blackjack is mostly CSMs, which is not beatable without inside help. I don't have an edge at craps and that game doesn't go all that often there anyway. There's good video poker there, but nothing I can beat. Sports betting is illegal, so that's out. I know there used to be a harness track nearby with simulcasts, but I don't know if it's still open or not. It wouldn't be my first choice anyway. That would be live poker. I haven't done it in a long time, but I'd like to think I could do well enough to grind out a living if I needed to.

Of course, if I could somehow get to Las Vegas, things might be different. There's still poker, of course, but the extra competition allows for extra opportunities. I have fantasized about doing something like this, but each time I've decided that it's not a life I want to lead unless I really have to. So far so good.
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December 6th, 2011 at 8:23:33 AM permalink
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I have fantasized about doing something like this, but each time I've decided that it's not a life I want to lead unless I really have to. So far so good.

I imagine if I were psychic or something, roulette would be a pretty fine way to make a living. The trouble is that even a skilled and knowledgeable player is still up against a 5.26 percent house edge... and I ain't psychic at all.

Go to Vegas and make a living out of playing pool? Some sharks will love your bankroll! Yet, even if you survive your "real world" period don't expect to have your life style be unchanged. You'll live completely new hours, you'll drink like a fish and your clothes will reek of tobacco. Many of the women you meet will have blue hair because it looks nice under smokey florescent lighting. The younger women you meet will all have formulas that involve various permutations and combinations of your waistline, your age and your bankroll and their intent is to leave you a withered shell without a cent left.

The guy who is a pretty good golfer dreams of going pro but fears not being able to make it, the young studly tennis player dreams of turning pro but fears winding up being only an assistant Tennis Pro at some club where the women are old, fat and not really all that rich.

Its not only the young starlet who gives up her career for a man and a couple of kids. Its also the young male who gives up the gin and one-night-stands, the poker nights and the subscription to a sports line service.

Many a sports bettor would love to go pro. Many a poker player would love to crank it up to full time and full pots. .... And many of them actually could make a go of it for a while too. Some might be able to go all the way and would be really good at it. The trouble is that alot of people who bet on the ponies really do eat oatmeal for breakfast... and that is a meal for the very young and the very old.
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