What's in the safe?
Poll
 | 2 votes (6.06%) | ||
| | 4 votes (12.12%) | ||
| | 2 votes (6.06%) | ||
| | 8 votes (24.24%) | ||
| | 2 votes (6.06%) | ||
| | 14 votes (42.42%) | ||
| | 4 votes (12.12%) | ||
| | 1 vote (3.03%) |
33 members have voted
August 31st, 2011 at 5:36:18 AM
permalink
They're going to open it on Sept 5
Construction crews found a safe in a secret wall in an old casino.
here
Construction crews found a safe in a secret wall in an old casino.
Quote:SOUTH LAKE TAHOE, Calif. -- A hidden safe found during the remodeling of a casino in South Lake Tahoe will be opened next week.
The safe -- found underneath a stairway at Old Bill’s Casino -- may be linked to an unsolved murder of the former owner of the casino.
here
Sanitized for Your Protection
August 31st, 2011 at 6:36:02 AM
permalink
Secret safe?
The last man who knew about it probably cleaned it out.
Probably more a forgotten safe than a secret one anyway.
The last man who knew about it probably cleaned it out.
Probably more a forgotten safe than a secret one anyway.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:52:15 AM
permalink
I wonder if they offered Geraldo Rivera the chance to preside at the opening.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
August 31st, 2011 at 9:30:58 AM
permalink
They won't bring Geraldo in unless there is a certainty of a dead body showing up.
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
August 31st, 2011 at 2:08:08 PM
permalink
Quote: Gabes22They won't bring Geraldo in unless there is a certainty of a dead body showing up.
I can't stand Gerald-O. I thought it was hilarious when there was
nothing inside Al Capone's vault.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 31st, 2011 at 3:18:27 PM
permalink
Quote: Gabes22They won't bring Geraldo in unless there is a certainty of a dead body showing up.
Geraldo would accidentally broadcast the contents ten minutes before it was 'opened'.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
August 31st, 2011 at 4:35:09 PM
permalink
Perhaps they could just get Geraldo's mustache to host
August 31st, 2011 at 6:27:20 PM
permalink
I voted "Other" only because I believe Jerry Logan will be in the safe.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:12:50 PM
permalink
That particular area where it was found was part of the old Barneys Casino, and was remodeled to become part of Bills Casino, which opened in 1987. A man who worked on the remodel reported that he saw a big safe that was empty except for some $1 chips, playing cards and dice, but nothing else. The safe was too heavy to move, so they just walled it up under the staircase. I guess we'll see soon.
"Poker sure is an easy game to beat if you have the roll to keep rebuying."
August 31st, 2011 at 7:22:02 PM
permalink
Quote: zippyboyThe safe was too heavy to move, so they just walled it up under the staircase. I guess we'll see soon.
I believe that qualifies as the Occam's Razor version.
Sanitized for Your Protection
August 31st, 2011 at 8:09:18 PM
permalink
Quote: rxwineI believe that qualifies as the Occam's Razor version.
I love the Razor. The most obvious solution is usually the right solution.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
August 31st, 2011 at 10:49:25 PM
permalink
Quote: rxwineI believe that qualifies as the Occam's Razor version.
How about this. Say there is a Geiger counter and a live cat in the safe. The Geiger counter is attached to a some poison, which will be released with 50% chance, depending on whether the number of particles detected by the Geiger counter in a specified period of time is odd or even. Should the cat survive this experiment, assume it can survive in the safe until its opening (just take this assumption on faith). The question for the forum is whether the cat is alive or dead now?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 31st, 2011 at 10:59:28 PM
permalink
Quote: WizardHow about this. Say there is a Geiger counter and a live cat in the safe. The Geiger counter is attached to a some poison, which will be released with 50% chance, depending on whether the number of particles detected by the Geiger counter in a specified period of time is odd or even. Should the cat survive this experiment, assume it can survive in the safe until its opening (just take this assumption on faith). The question for the forum is whether the cat is alive or dead now?
Half assed, late night, intuition guess... it depends on which event causes the gas to be released. Say it's released on odd. I'd bet dead, based on the sequence starting with odd (Geiger tick #1). The number of odd counts COULD be greater than the number of evens, but the number of even counts could NEVER be greater than odds.
Edit - assuming we're told this info (it's released on odd). If not, then still dead, because while it COULD survive in the safe, no cat lives that long =p
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
September 1st, 2011 at 8:33:37 AM
permalink
Quote: WizardThe question for the forum is whether the cat is alive or dead now?
It's alive because you're not using quantum theory to determine its death :P
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
September 1st, 2011 at 11:50:24 AM
permalink
I have to vote for "nothing". The picture on the website shows modern steel wall beams, not wooden 2x4's. Whoever walled it up would certainly have checked the contents first.
Edit: And the cat is dead, unless the measruing period is extremely long... plus I hate cats.
Edit: And the cat is dead, unless the measruing period is extremely long... plus I hate cats.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
September 1st, 2011 at 12:18:16 PM
permalink
Quote: NareedIt's alive because you're not using quantum theory to determine its death :P
Suppose I am using quantum theory.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 1st, 2011 at 12:35:26 PM
permalink
Quote: WizardSuppose I am using quantum theory.
In that case I think you need to open the safe and find out. But that's just one interpretation. IN reality I don't think quantum effect apply outside the sub-atomic realm.
So if there's enough oxygen in the safe, the cat will be ok for a day or so.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
September 1st, 2011 at 1:08:00 PM
permalink
Quote: WizardHow about this. Say there is a Geiger counter and a live cat in the safe. The Geiger counter is attached to a some poison, which will be released with 50% chance, depending on whether the number of particles detected by the Geiger counter in a specified period of time is odd or even. Should the cat survive this experiment, assume it can survive in the safe until its opening (just take this assumption on faith). The question for the forum is whether the cat is alive or dead now?
I also assume you tell the truth, in which case the cat is alive. You said "there is ... a live cat in the safe". :)
On the more reasonable assumption that you meant "there was a live cat in the safe, and then the Schrodinger's experiment was run", the answer is "yes". The boolean value of "alive OR dead" is always true. Therefore, the cat is (alive OR dead) now.
I'd put another smiley-face there but that'd be overkill.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
September 1st, 2011 at 1:42:46 PM
permalink
Schrodinger's cat.
-----
You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
September 1st, 2011 at 1:48:31 PM
permalink
There's a fifty-fifty chance of finding the cat alive. Since the geiger counter "observes" the quantum state of the atoms, the probability wave will collapse to a single state ( how's THAT for pseudo-science ) thus making a dead cat or an alive cat, not both.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
September 12th, 2011 at 2:11:22 PM
permalink
Apparently, Oprah is now involved, and the opening of the safe was delayed until tomorrow to accomodate the television network. Stay tuned.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
September 16th, 2011 at 3:42:22 PM
permalink
January? I'm assuming if ithere wasn't anything worth looking at, they wouldn't have bothered to delay it to show us nothing. Or to show us some empty bags, or some poker chips.
So, have they already given away that there was something? Well, that's my reasoning anyway.
So, have they already given away that there was something? Well, that's my reasoning anyway.
Sanitized for Your Protection
April 2nd, 2013 at 12:29:44 PM
permalink
Anyone from Reno\Tahoe heard more about the mystery safe at Bill's? Wikipedia says the opening was supposed to be featured on an Oprah network show called "Found" (that apparently never got picked up). Meanwhile, the news just dried up. I suppose mob cover-ups work that way, so I shouldn't be surprised....
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
April 2nd, 2013 at 3:06:01 PM
permalink
I believe the safe was opened in 2011 by authorities investigating a case. I don't remember anything significant being announced.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
April 2nd, 2013 at 5:28:56 PM
permalink
I hope Jimmy Hoffa is in the safe......
Each day is better than the next
March 11th, 2014 at 8:54:20 AM
permalink
Joke Time!
Schrodinger's cat walks into a bar. And doesn't.
Schrodinger's cat walks into a bar. And doesn't.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 11th, 2014 at 9:03:59 AM
permalink
What if no one observes the cat?
Gambling is a metaphor for life. Hang around long enough and it's all gone.
March 11th, 2014 at 9:11:20 AM
permalink
Then it doesn't make a sound.
p.s. What does this have to do with Jimmy Hoffa being in a safe?
p.s. What does this have to do with Jimmy Hoffa being in a safe?
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
March 11th, 2014 at 9:32:34 AM
permalink
Quote: MathExtremistp.s. What does this have to do with Jimmy Hoffa being in a safe?
There was talk of Schrodinger's cat earlier in the thread.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 11th, 2014 at 10:13:22 AM
permalink
Quote: WizardJoke Time!
There are 10 types of people who understand binary. Those who do, and those who don't.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
March 11th, 2014 at 10:28:03 AM
permalink
