There is no foreseeable end to this..
That one has a few different possibilities...and...since he was considered a candidate for mayor of NY...
"NYers: You'll never be Mayor 'Crotch"
I don't see what the big deal is. He sent some photographs to some broads with whom he had been corresponding. None of them were particularly shocked or offended, they just thought it would be a good way for them to make headlines. Its not as if the recipients were compelled to seek psychological counseling or something. The photos are reported to be rather tame photos.
When the media whores hounded him, he lied about the existence of a hacker. What? A politician lied? It would merit headlines if a politician had told the truth. And if a politician had indeed told the truth about any topic, his constituency would be advising him to seek counseling or else they would be circulating recall petitions.
So what is the big deal about some boring photos and probably even more boring recipients of those photos?
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I don't see what the big deal is.
Thats what I want want in a married elected congressman. Him sending pictures of his JOHNSON to single women all over the internet. And then lying about it when he gets caught, trying to blame others for HIS conduct. We have names for guys like this; pervert springs to mind.
Politicians, trial lawyers, athletes, many businessmen and most conmen tend to be high testosterone types. That sort of stuff has been going on forever. Even in the Edwardian Age public appearances of domestic tranquility and faithfulness were maintained but it was clearly a facade of manners being displayed for public consumption with a morning bell being sounded at the house-party to signal all gentlemen to return to their proper rooms prior to the arrival of the various chamber maids. Even after the abdication, black marketeering, wartime currency speculations contrary to British interests and smuggling were countenanced. And while most historians skirt around the issue, its clear that Harry Oakes was murdered and it was not by the cousin who was framed for it. Sir Harry Oakes made the mistake of having too great a percentage of his fortune being in the hands of his laundryman at any one time.
The rich and powerful can be in the public spotlight at times but winning an election does not mean that one must suddenly don a halo. Candidate is a word derived from Candidatus, the white cloak signifying purity. It was never worn after the election! It never will be.
Frankly, I can't think of a good logical reason NOT to send pictures of your erect penis (in either briefs or boxers) to anonymous women on the internet, especially if you are an elected official. In fact, it should be mandatory. For the women, cameltoes will do.
I've often wondered just what sort of a man first invented the phrase camel toe to refer a fabric enhanced view. After all, what sort of a man is it whose first thought is that of a camel's anatomy. And why is kankles spelled with a "K" instead of a "C"?Quote: MoscaFor the women, cameltoes will do.
Quote: FleaStiffSometimes politicians surprise us. Such as the time one politician in Texas shot someone in the front.
I don't see what the big deal is. He sent some photographs to some broads with whom he had been corresponding. None of them were particularly shocked or offended, they just thought it would be a good way for them to make headlines. Its not as if the recipients were compelled to seek psychological counseling or something. The photos are reported to be rather tame photos.
When the media whores hounded him, he lied about the existence of a hacker. What? A politician lied? It would merit headlines if a politician had told the truth. And if a politician had indeed told the truth about any topic, his constituency would be advising him to seek counseling or else they would be circulating recall petitions.
So what is the big deal about some boring photos and probably even more boring recipients of those photos?
I personally don't see any big deal. He wasn't one of the "family values" hypocrites. But, damn--that name is just comedy gold! The headlines just write themselves! That's why I pay any attention to it at all.
Huh huh Weiner huh huh. Yeah, I'm 12.
Probably just some schmuck that works in a zoo cleaning the camel shit. One day he sees a crotch, etc., and the next thing you know, the phrase "Camel Toe" is born.Quote: FleaStiffI've often wondered just what sort of a man first invented the phrase camel toe to refer a fabric enhanced view. After all, what sort of a man is it whose first thought is that of a camel's anatomy.
You might as well ask what kind of person came up with the term "Beaver", "Man in the boat", "Family jewels", "One eyed snake", etc...
Just remember, as George Carlin once said, "You can prick your finger, but don't finger your prick!"
The good news is, his wife is pregnant.
The bad news is, his wife is pregnant.
Quote: FleaStiffI don't see what the big deal is.
I think people may be missing the most important point. (or what I think is the most important point) Don't ever get lazy and confuse a Twitter account with a private e-mail -- especially if you're someone who sends out potentially embarrassing crap that you don't want every person you know and don't know to see one day.
Quote: FleaStiffWhen the media whores hounded him, he lied about the existence of a hacker. What? A politician lied? It would merit headlines if a politician had told the truth. And if a politician had indeed told the truth about any topic, his constituency would be advising him to seek counseling or else they would be circulating recall petitions.
So what is the big deal about some boring photos and probably even more boring recipients of those photos?
The "big deal" in this case is that he claimed he was a victim of a crime. As a Congressman this would compell the FBI to investigagte. If the "tweet" was sent from his office computer or even just on a government wi-fi server it would almost certainly violate government policy on use of govrenment computers.
So we have lying to the FBI and causing the same to waste time and resources investigating. Then we have, if it was on his government computer, actions that could get a low-level employee fired.
Finally, there is the fact it is not proper behavior for a high-elected official and a security risk. Suppose he is tweeting this kind of thing and instead of Andrew Brietbart it gets into the hands of an enemy of the USA. Or anyone who wants influence. He is a blackmail target.
So, is it a big deal? The bigger deal is that the lamestream media tried yet again to cover up an embarrasing story on a liberal.
"I don't know if laws were broken or not, but Weiner was sending around pictures of him in his underpants and I thought, Well, now, wait a minute, what is the big deal? Don't men and women in Congress get to mail their packages for free?!" —David Letterman
"This is why Twitter exists. Members of Congress can now send you pictures of their penises electronically. Remember the old days of Senator Larry Craig when you had to get in your car, drive to the airport, find the airport bathroom, try to figure out which stall he's in, knock on the door...Now they send it right to your house." —Jay Leno
"Democrats don't share our values. An elected official is tweeting dirty photos of himself to strange women who he never meets for sex? Come on! At least Republican Chris Lee was trying to get some action! Republican politicians are man enough to hit that thing. Ensign, Vitter, even when it's a gay scandal! They're not tweeting love letters. They're tearing up an airport bathroom until somebody calls the cops on them!" —Stephen Colbert
Quote: pacomartin"Anthony Weiner admitted to sending inappropriate messages to several women via Twitter, text, email, and Facebook. I think the lesson here is that if you're going to send explicit pictures of yourself, send them through MySpace, where no one will notice." —Jimmy Kimmel
"I don't know if laws were broken or not, but Weiner was sending around pictures of him in his underpants and I thought, Well, now, wait a minute, what is the big deal? Don't men and women in Congress get to mail their packages for free?!" —David Letterman
"This is why Twitter exists. Members of Congress can now send you pictures of their penises electronically. Remember the old days of Senator Larry Craig when you had to get in your car, drive to the airport, find the airport bathroom, try to figure out which stall he's in, knock on the door...Now they send it right to your house." —Jay Leno
"Democrats don't share our values. An elected official is tweeting dirty photos of himself to strange women who he never meets for sex? Come on! At least Republican Chris Lee was trying to get some action! Republican politicians are man enough to hit that thing. Ensign, Vitter, even when it's a gay scandal! They're not tweeting love letters. They're tearing up an airport bathroom until somebody calls the cops on them!" —Stephen Colbert
Kimmel gets it here, Colbert a close second. I mean, that was clever.
If he posted it on MySpace and MSNBC covered it, did it really happen?
Quote:Tweet this: "I resign" (Boston Globe)
I think this sort of thing goes on all the time; the scandal here is that Wiener thought those twitpics would be private. If he's that out of touch, then can he be trusted with state secrets? Oh, and he was in underwear. Like that would bring the women around. Scandalous, dawg.
The funniest stuff this week has been on Imus in the Morning. All the guys there say how they shouldn't be making fun of it, then proceed to make fun of it for 3 hours. Imus will say 'That ain't right', then hit it with another double entendre. Weiner is such an over the top jerk, thats makes it even more fun.
Well, if you had to go through school with kids making jokes about Weiners all the time would you be totally "right"?
Quote: FleaStiff>That ain't right.
Well, if you had to go through school with kids making jokes about Weiners all the time would you be totally "right"?
Stick a fork in him, he's done.
He ain't that high an official and what is this nonsense about a security risk? You think perhaps that the guy who for years was known far and wide as Condom Condit should have been recalled from office? He didn't waste no time tweeting photos of his crotch. He spent his time screwing everything in sight that was female. And reporters had first dubbed him Condom Condit decades earlier than some young chippie on the make happened to go jogging while wearing ear phones that meant she couldn't hear a mugger running up behind her.Quote: AZDuffmanFinally, there is the fact it is not proper behavior for a high-elected official and a security risk.
Quote: FleaStiffHe ain't that high an official and what is this nonsense about a security risk? You think perhaps that the guy who for years was known far and wide as Condom Condit should have been recalled from office? He didn't waste no time tweeting photos of his crotch. He spent his time screwing everything in sight that was female. And reporters had first dubbed him Condom Condit decades earlier than some young chippie on the make happened to go jogging while wearing ear phones that meant she couldn't hear a mugger running up behind her.
A Congressman is indeed a high government official. The security risk comes from the potential for blackmail if it was left a private matter. As to security risk, suppose the Lybian government "had" this on him and Obama asked for a war vote. You don't think someone "owning" a congressman is a problem?
He also shows a great deal of immaturity in doing what he did, not what I want in a leader.
Quote: zippyboyWhat's the big deal? At least he sent the pics to women. That's not toooo far from normal for a guy. Or at least a 14-year-old guy. It's advertising. Can you imagine if twitter and facebook had been around 12 years ago and Clinton had accounts?
I think this sort of thing goes on all the time; the scandal here is that Wiener thought those twitpics would be private. If he's that out of touch, then can he be trusted with state secrets? Oh, and he was in underwear. Like that would bring the women around. Scandalous, dawg.
The fact that so many people ask "whats the big deal" shows what a problem we have in this country. Too many people are afraid to just say some behavior is "wrong."
He just sent a pic of himself.
He just lied about an affair under oath (perjury) to avoid losing a sexual harrassmant lawsuit because he dropped his pants to a woman.
He killed dogs, but he is a great QB and it is part of his "culture."
He hired call girls, whny is that illegal anyhow?
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He also shows a great deal of immaturity in doing what he did
Not for a 13 year old at home in his bedroom. For a 15 year old, yes its immature. For a 46 year old sitting congressman, it means he has problems that need immediate professional attention. And I don't mean hire a lawyer.
Condone such behavior? I don't think Jersey Shore would have been a popular program if they dressed or lived like nuns!
Quote: timberjimDo you think its possible that the people that do not have a problem with this behavior are not parents? They are not involved with trying to instill values into a young person and do not understand how much impact condoning such behavior can have.
I have four kids. But they don't have Twitter or Facebook accounts. What grown ups do among themselves with their junk escapes them unless it makes news.
I don't condone his behavior, but it's not like he killed someone. Americans tend to clamp down on sex but condone violence, which I think is backwards.
I'll instill MY values, not someone else's. And my kids keep winning Citizenship Awards at their schools, so I'm doing something right. Probably limiting their access to social media is a good start.
Quote: zippyboyWhat's the big deal? At least he sent the pics to women. That's not toooo far from normal for a guy. Or at least a 14-year-old guy. It's advertising. Can you imagine if twitter and facebook had been around 12 years ago and Clinton had accounts?
I think this sort of thing goes on all the time; the scandal here is that Wiener thought those twitpics would be private.
What I'm wondering is, is sending pictures of your penis part an accepted/expected part of the courtship ritual nowadays? I mean it's not just him. I'm aware this has been going on on Craigslist et al for some time, but it seems like it's becoming more and more the norm. In 10 years it'll be no big deal and penis size will be on our driver's licenses.
Quote: 7outlineawayIn 10 years it'll be no big deal and penis size will be on our driver's licenses.
Would "undersize" lead to a discounted price for a license?
Quote: FarFromVegasI have four kids. But they don't have Twitter or Facebook accounts. What grown ups do among themselves with their junk escapes them unless it makes news.
I don't condone his behavior, but it's not like he killed someone. Americans tend to clamp down on sex but condone violence, which I think is backwards.
I'll instill MY values, not someone else's. And my kids keep winning Citizenship Awards at their schools, so I'm doing something right. Probably limiting their access to social media is a good start.
Maybe I chose my words (condone) wrong. If he had simply admitted it up front and not blamed a vast conspiracy and lied about it, I believe it would already be old news. And now they announce that his wife is pregnant in an obvious ploy to gain sympathy.
It sounds like you are the kind of parent I tried to be. Social media was not a factor for me to worry about. I can only imagine what my very young grandsons will be exposed to. They will need a very solid upbringing to learn to respect themselves and others.
I've been saying something similar for years: Do you want your child to grow up to be a lover or a fighter? Why does mainstream media seem to glorify violence but repress and be squeemish about normal sexual activities?Quote: FarFromVegasAmericans tend to clamp down on sex but condone violence, which I think is backwards.
I don't know about "expected", but it's generally "accepted" in personal ads of swinger's/cheater's publications.Quote: 7outlineawayWhat I'm wondering is, is sending pictures of your penis part an accepted/expected part of the courtship ritual nowadays?
Quote: EvenBobNot for a 13 year old at home in his bedroom. For a 15 year old, yes its immature. For a 46 year old sitting congressman, it means he has problems that need immediate professional attention. And I don't mean hire a lawyer.
Blaming bad behavior on "problems" doesn't cut it with me. IRL when you get out of college sooner or later you learn, directly or indirectly, what is and is not acceptable anymore. Some people never get over porn sites and pictures online. Those with maturity hear about suchg stuff and say, "that is SO 1997!"
Show me a society with no standards of proper sexual behavior and I will show you a society in decline.
There are already clubs where a basket of "keychains" with a tape measure attached is located at the entrance and females are thus able to see if the men "measure up" prior to making their selection.Quote: 7outlineawayIn 10 years it'll be no big deal and penis size will be on our driver's licenses.
Quote: AZDuffmanShow me a society with no standards of proper sexual behavior and I will show you a society in decline.
The Taliban?
However, Osama had porn. When should you trust people preaching high standards of morality?
I think the Mormons (the non-polygamous ones) set a pretty good example, but it's probably because there's some correlation between drug and alcohol use and sexual behavior. Note, I didn't say standards. Christians may set some standards but the ones tipping the bottle too often are probably more prone to depravity. Well, that's just my theory. I'm not going cite any references.
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I think the Mormons (the non-polygamous ones) set a pretty good example,
Mormons also have a huge problem with some of their members getting addicted to online porn. I can't begin to fathom this, but each to his own, I guess..
Ever hear the term "Jack-Mormons"? I think its not just "drugs and alcohol" but even coffee and tea that is prohibited so deferred gratification is learned early. There is even great social pressure regarding pre-marital sexual activity. Not bad for a group that was in open revolt against the USA during the Mormon Wars although to this day the church maintains that it was "Indians" rather than the Territorial Militia at the Mountain Meadows massacre.Quote: rxwineI think the Mormons (the non-polygamous ones) set a pretty good example, but it's probably because there's some correlation between drug and alcohol use and sexual behavior.
Quote: rxwineThe Taliban?
However, Osama had porn. When should you trust people preaching high standards of morality?
The Taliban have no standards for sexual morality? I thought it was the oppisite.
I don't trust people preaching high standards but I do trust those who practice them. Part of the reason is failure to do so is a sign of no self control.
Quote: FleaStiffThere are already clubs where a basket of "keychains" with a tape measure attached is located at the entrance and females are thus able to see if the men "measure up" prior to making their selection.
Over 20 years ago the president of American University was caught making obscene phone calls. He lost his job, went into treatment and wrote a book. The University rehired him on the faculty and he retired there.
While I agree that the Representative did not do anything that means he can't have a public position for the rest of his life, but I would expect him to resign, first, and then try to seek treatment. To pretend this behavior is simply outlandish, is a sad statement.
Quote: pacomartinTo pretend this behavior is simply outlandish, is a sad statement.
Hey, he went into hiding today in a 'treatment center', its the American way of dealing with things now. Him and Lindsey Lohan and Charlie Sheen. Winning!
Its the American way of dealing with pesky reporters. And sometimes your insurance even pays for it.Quote: EvenBobits the American way of dealing with things now!
Quote: FleaStiffIts the American way of dealing with pesky reporters. And sometimes your insurance even pays for it.
Oh, you don't think Weenie is paying, do you? Congress has cast iron insurance that gives them a full ride to the Betty Ford clinic is they want, and we pay for it. How special.
Quote: FleaStiffIts the American way of dealing with pesky reporters. And sometimes your insurance even pays for it.
Yes, coverage mandated by your carrier's home state in some cases. Then people wonder why a basic health insurance policy costs so much.
What this WILL do is give the pot that was boiling a little time to calm down. It's a typical political move--if he gets out of the public eye for a bit, the story will age and perhaps yet another scandal or event will happen that will take this one off the front page and, if he is lucky, out of the news. If all goes well, the calls for investigations will disappear and he'll be back in business. That is a sad testament to our political system--people can lie to the public and to their peers and get away with it. It happens way too often.
There may be more but the reason he should be disqualified from office is that he is willing to step up to the microphone and make a false accusation (I was hacked) trying to blame someone else for his behavior. Sure, his behavior was "wrong" and should not have happened, but the lie is what violated the public trust.
Quote: RonCbut the lie is what violated the public trust.
You think he should instead wash his dirty laundry in public simply because some tabloid reporter becomes fixated on him?
You know any politician who tells the truth? About anything?
Quote: FleaStiffYou think he should instead wash his dirty laundry in public simply because some tabloid reporter becomes fixated on him?
You're right, of course. He should have continued to lie and say that he was "hacked" when presented with the truth. Then there should have been an FBI investigation because hacking a congressman is a criminal action. That would have worked out well for him--he'd have had to lie to the FBI to keep the hacking allegation alive. Then this could have been a criminal prosecution instead of a mere everyday scandal.
If you are elected to office, people are watching your actions. If they find that you have done something scandalous, it will be made public. If you don't want to play under those rules, don't get in the game. If you expect to be a controversial figure and say all kinds of things about the other side, EXPECT people to be looking at your life. Doesn't that happen on both sides????
Quote: FleaStiffYou know any politician who tells the truth? About anything?
I'm not that cynical. I think they have different ideas and are too focused on remaining in office, but I don't think they all "lie"... They for sure are not saints, of course!!
Quote: SOOPOOAt some point during this mess he said something like 'WE have hired a firm to investigate the hacking and get to the bottom of this'. Who is WE? Was the firmed hired by his congressional office? Was it hired by the NDC? Was it hired out of Mr. Wiener's personal funds? Some things are just too simple. He stood up in front of a microphone and lied to his constituents, lied to his fellow congressmen, lied to his family. He cannot keep his congressional seat. By the way, what would the odds be on the next congressperson from that district being a now pregnant wife of a disgraced congressman? It would be a great Hollywood ending! Also, do you think Uma is asking for advice from her boss, Hilary? I think she has some experience in these matters.....
With New York losing 2 seats in reapportionment, I've heard stories that the state government is going to merge his seat with someone else, meaning, he'll have to go up against another incumbent either in the D primary or the general election. Pundits don't give him much of a chance, but we all know that that's meaningless. It will be an interesting election, but yeah, Weiner should probably step down before then.
While I can think of several Republicans resigning under similar circumstances, I can't, off the top of my head, think of a Democrat who has.