Kudos to the Equality State
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While I've never been to Wyoming and don't know anyone from there, congratulations to them for living up to their nickname, The Equality State, despite having the smallest population.
I've been there. On the way to Deadwood. It's like a lot of places in the West, where there are long stretches where the only sign of human activity is the road you are driving on. And if you see something, yeah it's probably cows or something having to do with cows.
What's the appeal of equality, anyway? You need inequality for things to happen. More force on one side of an object than the other for it to move, more charge on one side of a circuit than the other for current to flow, more pressure on one end of a pipe than the other for water to flow, and so on. Same thing for people. When one person has something that another needs but doesn't have, that's when we get creative, that's when productive interactions happen between people. If you look closely you'll notice that all the good things that happen to us every day exploit some kind of inequality. If we were all equal, we'd all be like potted plants. On our own in the pot, everything we need is in our own pot, and one pot is like another. Until somebody forgets to water us and we die. I hate equality!
Quote: snacklandQuote: AutomaticMonkeyWyominglings are also known as the best tippers. Expected, in a state with more cows than people.
I've been there. On the way to Deadwood. It's like a lot of places in the West, where there are long stretches where the only sign of human activity is the road you are driving on. And if you see something, yeah it's probably cows or something having to do with cows.
What's the appeal of equality, anyway? You need inequality for things to happen. More force on one side of an object than the other for it to move, more charge on one side of a circuit than the other for current to flow, more pressure on one end of a pipe than the other for water to flow, and so on. Same thing for people. When one person has something that another needs but doesn't have, that's when we get creative, that's when productive interactions happen between people. If you look closely you'll notice that all the good things that happen to us every day exploit some kind of inequality. If we were all equal, we'd all be like potted plants. On our own in the pot, everything we need is in our own pot, and one pot is like another. Until somebody forgets to water us and we die. I hate equality!
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Haven't you got a genocide to go to, cunt?
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Just saving this so people can see an example of inequality in intelligence.
Wyoming has 500 homeless, California has 200,000.
Quote: harrisIt's easy for states that bus most their homeless addicts to San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington DC to house the homeless.
Wyoming has 500 homeless, California has 200,000.
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Wyoming pop =590,169
California pop =39,663,800
For California it's ~0.5% of the population while it's ~0.1% of the population in Wyoming.
Also since Wyoming's population is spread out, there probably aren't giant homeless encampments to clear.
Edit: According to Alexa, Alaska had 2,600 homeless people out of 747,000 people. Wyoming had 501 out of 577,00 thousand.
Someday, I'll drive to Deadwood and get to see Wyoming along the way.
If you ever go to Deadwood please check out my friend's casino game called Dakota Duel Draw at Lodge Casino :) You won't find it anywhere else.
Quote: harrisYeah in Alaska (and Hawaii) you cannot simply bus homeless to another state so they accumulate.
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I've heard rumors that Hawaii sometimes buys homeless people one way passage to the mainland.
I reasonably trust the source.
Years ago, two cops in my town got tired of dealing with one particular guy. They drove him about thirty miles to the beach in the winter and dropped him off in the wee hours of the morning. They lost their jobs and were investigated for federal kidnapping charges.
Quote: harrisYeah in Alaska (and Hawaii) you cannot simply bus homeless to another state so they accumulate.
If you ever go to Deadwood please check out my friend's casino game called Dakota Duel Draw at Lodge Casino :) You won't find it anywhere else.
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Without a proper id, a homeless person can't leave Alaska or Hawaii.
But I digress.
Quote: DieterQuote: harrisYeah in Alaska (and Hawaii) you cannot simply bus homeless to another state so they accumulate.
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I've heard rumors that Hawaii sometimes buys homeless people one way passage to the mainland.
I reasonably trust the source.
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When I was in Hawaii late last year my friend told me that they'll only send homeless in Hawaii back on a plane if they have family or something like that in the state where they're going who will help them. I think some other cities/states on the mainland use planes instead of buses if it seems cheaper...
The other state with a high Mormon population is Idaho, which according to this linked article used to rank as #3 in the country. The article notes that most of this was driven by southeastern Idaho which is majority Mormon. The article also notes that wealthier people donate a smaller percentage of their total income which could also explain many of differences between the states here.
Quote: harrisIt's easy for states that bus most their homeless addicts to San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington DC to house the homeless.
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Wait what?
How is this legal?
And more importantly why don't those cities stop it?
Ie: lawsuits
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyNevada has a lot too. Arizona gets the bad ones, the ones who still want to do polygamy. Mainstream Mormons are sensitive about that history and I suppose that's why the polygamists stay out of Utah.
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Wait Utah shuns polygamists now???
But Sister Wives is a huge hit show
It is cut off from the rest of Arizona by the Canyon and the River. You have to cross the Boulder Dam and then drive up to St George before cutting back. It's small enough that Arizona doesn't have any state agencies there, and local law enforcement is extremely shady.
To get from the Arizona Strip to its county seat in Mohave, one must enter Utah, then Nevada, and finally California before returning to Arizona.
The area is larger than many states but has only about 10,000 residents, many of whom practice things that aren't acceptable in the rest of the States. It should have been part of Utah, but politics in the 1850s demanded Arizona extend north enough that it couldn't qualify as a slave state. Arizona has tried for years to give the area, most of which is Federal land managed by the BLM, to either Nevada or Utah, but neither wants to deal with the polygamous cult that lives there.
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: harrisIt's easy for states that bus most their homeless addicts to San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington DC to house the homeless.
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Wait what?
How is this legal?
And more importantly why don't those cities stop it?
Ie: lawsuits
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It's not illegal to give homeless drug addicted bums a free bus ticket. They don't have to go. Many will take it because the destination is bum-friendly, with lots of government agencies and NGOs who will continue to enable them.
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: AutomaticMonkeyNevada has a lot too. Arizona gets the bad ones, the ones who still want to do polygamy. Mainstream Mormons are sensitive about that history and I suppose that's why the polygamists stay out of Utah.
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Wait Utah shuns polygamists now???
But Sister Wives is a huge hit show
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Polygamy is illegal in Utah. Of course, it exists, but they don't advertise themselves on TV. The sister wives clan had to move out of Utah. They moved to Las Vegas and then to Flagstaff.
Quote: billryanThe Arizona Strip is an interesting place.
It is cut off from the rest of Arizona by the Canyon and the River. You have to cross the Boulder Dam and then drive up to St George before cutting back. It's small enough that Arizona doesn't have any state agencies there, and local law enforcement is extremely shady.
To get from the Arizona Strip to its county seat in Mohave, one must enter Utah, then Nevada, and finally California before returning to Arizona.
The area is larger than many states but has only about 10,000 residents, many of whom practice things that aren't acceptable in the rest of the States. It should have been part of Utah, but politics in the 1850s demanded Arizona extend north enough that it couldn't qualify as a slave state. Arizona has tried for years to give the area, most of which is Federal land managed by the BLM, to either Nevada or Utah, but neither wants to deal with the polygamous cult that lives there.
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It depends on where in the Arizona Strip. From the NW corner (Littlefield or Beaver Dam), you have to take I-15 to Utah or Nevada. But from Colorado City, you could take US 89A to US 89, all within Arizona.
There is no need to drive through California at all.
Why would anyone drive from there to Utah and then Nevada? That's backtracking.
Quote: billryanThe fastest way to the Mojave County seat is through Needles, California, which can only be reached by passing through Utah and Nevada. Eighty-nine would take you towards Flagstaff, the opposite direction from Mohave, and stretches of it can be extremely treacherous in winter. The Mingus Pass is not for Sunday drivers.
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The county seat of Mohave County (note the spelling) is Kingman. I just got driving directions from the google for Colorado City, AZ to Kingman, AZ, and it says:
4 hours 5 minutes
268 miles
AZ-389 west to UT 59 north to Hurricane
UT 9 west to I-15 south to Las Vegas
I-11 south/US 93 south/US 95 south
stay on US 93 south to Kingman
Quote: KevinAAQuote: billryanThe fastest way to the Mojave County seat is through Needles, California, which can only be reached by passing through Utah and Nevada. Eighty-nine would take you towards Flagstaff, the opposite direction from Mohave, and stretches of it can be extremely treacherous in winter. The Mingus Pass is not for Sunday drivers.
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The county seat of Mohave County (note the spelling) is Kingman. I just got driving directions from the google for Colorado City, AZ to Kingman, AZ, and it says:
4 hours 5 minutes
268 miles
AZ-389 west to UT 59 north to Hurricane
UT 9 west to I-15 south to Las Vegas
I-11 south/US 93 south/US 95 south
stay on US 93 south to Kingman
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That is a way to go. Beats the hell out of driving through Flagstaff/ Prescott.
The way my friends go is 95S to Nipton, bypassing the Boulder/Rt 11 construction congestion. Arizona-Utah-Nevada- California- Nevada- Arizona.
Quote: billryanThat's why I was surprised Utah wasn't #1. It would have been my first thought. I had no idea Wyoming had many Mormons.
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I thought the same.
