Slot attendants make less than minimum wage?
Are slot attendants like poker dealers and also make less than minimum wage?
Is that why people tip them?
Sidenote: Do regular dealers (bj, roulette, etc) also make less than minimum wage?
Quote: 100xOddsIn my east coast state poker dealers make less than minimum wage.
Are slot attendants like poker dealers and also make less than minimum wage?
Is that why people tip them?
Sidenote: Do regular dealers (bj, roulette, etc) also make less than minimum wage?
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There’s a separate, lower minimum wage for employees that are considered to be “tip earners”. I don’t know what process or requirements are given to employers to justify paying certain employees the lower amount. Also, it’s up to each state to legislate accordingly, so long as they don’t go below either of the respective federal minima.
The ones I have checked have listed pay rates well above minimum wage for slot attendants. I do not know if this includes anticipated tips.
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Quote: camaplQuote: 100xOddsIn my east coast state poker dealers make less than minimum wage.
Are slot attendants like poker dealers and also make less than minimum wage?
Is that why people tip them?
Sidenote: Do regular dealers (bj, roulette, etc) also make less than minimum wage?
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There’s a separate, lower minimum wage for employees that are considered to be “tip earners”. I don’t know what process or requirements are given to employers to justify paying certain employees the lower amount. Also, it’s up to each state to legislate accordingly, so long as they don’t go below either of the respective federal minima.
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There is a formula that varies from state to state. An employee gets a minimal amount from the employer, but that amount plus the employee's tips, must exceed the regular state minimum.
Imagine a situation where a slot attendant is getting $100 per jackpot on a game that can generate a handlay jackpot within minutes.
Quote: NathanI would assume a job where you are directly thousands of dollars every shift would come with a big salary/big wages to deter theft. If people handling thousands of dollars every shift were getting paid minimum wage, a lot of people would be tempted to steal money that they are supposed to be handling for their job. A big salary/big wage would heavily deter theft. 💡
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Jail is a bigger deterrent than high wages.
Quote: KevinAAQuote: NathanI would assume a job where you are directly thousands of dollars every shift would come with a big salary/big wages to deter theft. If people handling thousands of dollars every shift were getting paid minimum wage, a lot of people would be tempted to steal money that they are supposed to be handling for their job. A big salary/big wage would heavily deter theft. 💡
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Jail is a bigger deterrent than high wages.
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That too , but a lot of people also start off stealing small and then get greedy and steal big. Many Employers admitted they KNEW or heavily suspected their Employees were stealing money but it wasn't big money yet and were actually waiting for them to steal big money to fire and press charges. There's a show about Employees who steal and get caught, fired, and arrested and they started off stealing small amounts like $10 for lunch and then end up stealing BIG money like $10,000.
One criminal even had the audacious audacity to steal big money from her job and then ask her boss to give her $7 for a Coffee! 😱😳 The pure audacious audacity! 😱😳 Posters replied something like, "Stole $10,000 from her job and was begging for $7 from her Boss, SMH, seriously, people have the audacious audacity these days! 😱😳
Quote: SandybestdogIf something like that is happening, the employers have no one to blame but themselves (assuming no outright fraud was involved). If they don't want to pay their employees a fair wage they shouldn't expect them to watch out for their bottom line as well. This tipping society we have is so out of hand eventually it has a breaking point.
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It's not the employer's fault if an employee steals. That's ridiculous.
Slot attendants have been a tipped position for a long time. It is not a part of tip creep.
He pretended to not be all that upset and asked them to write a note that said that they promised to pay him back with the lottery winnings from the stolen lottery tickets and sign it. They wrote the note promising to pay him back with the lottery winnings from the stolen lottery tickets.
He used that note to press charges against them and get them prosecuted. He had cleverly gotten them to write a written confession of theft and sign it. I think the forgone conclusion was that he had also fired them over the theft even though he hasn't said that. 💡
Quote: KevinAAQuote: SandybestdogThis tipping society we have is so out of hand eventually it has a breaking point.
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It's not the employer's fault if an employee steals. That's ridiculous.
Slot attendants have been a tipped position for a long time. It is not a part of tip creep.
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Didn't think there will ever be a breaking point for the costumer to tipping.
I thought it was going to be tablets where to tip 0%, you had to press other. ie: Take out orders
That made me go to that restaurant less till lots of restaurants started doing it.
Now I got Costco for better food variety and quality.
Then I thought when the min tip button on tablets got raised to 18%.
And some high end restaurants now have 20% minimum.
Will 25% as the minimum tip button be the straw that breaks the camels back?
As for slot attendants being a tipped position, this is the 1st I've heard of that. They are adaquetly paid without tips.
And I've actually stopped tipping them for minimum handpays because tipping is so out of hand.
I also won't tip if the jackpot is like $2040 and they bring 100s and seven 20s. Like they want $60+ in tips.
And since they do that as standard tells me that they have been tipped $60+ for that small jackpot
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And if i see the min tip button at 25%, i'll hit other and tip 10% and explain it's because the stupid 25% min tip button
I of course do not justify any stealing from an employer. I have never stolen from one. It’s just not in my nature. I was just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if an employee turned a blind eye to someone who may be taking advantage of something because they are tipping well. Let’s also consider that a lot of people may think someone is winning. Maybe they’re not really though. Maybe they’re just playing big so it may seem like they’re winning but you don’t see them when they’re losing. A slot attendant may think a machine is “hot” but maybe’s they’ve been around enough that they don’t think anything of it. Casinos give machines a long cycle life. That means that a machine could lose for weeks or months and they still won’t think much of it.
Quote: SandybestdogI mean bringing the $20’s is fine. A few weeks ago I hit for I think exactly $1400 or something. Sure enough the attendant brought all 100’s. I was prepared though. I mean come on. Expecting $100 on $1400? I still tip at least $20 on every hand pay. Actually I don’t really mind that. It’s all the other tipping that gets me.
I of course do not justify any stealing from an employer. I have never stolen from one. It’s just not in my nature. I was just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if an employee turned a blind eye to someone who may be taking advantage of something because they are tipping well. Let’s also consider that a lot of people may think someone is winning. Maybe they’re not really though. Maybe they’re just playing big so it may seem like they’re winning but you don’t see them when they’re losing. A slot attendant may think a machine is “hot” but maybe’s they’ve been around enough that they don’t think anything of it. Casinos give machines a long cycle life. That means that a machine could lose for weeks or months and they still won’t think much of it.
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Your very last post reminds me of a slot machine that hadn't paid out the million dollar jackpot in like 20 years and people still played it hoping that it would hit the jackpot. It finally hit the jackpot a few years ago. 💡😀
Quote: SandybestdogI mean bringing the $20’s is fine.
A few weeks ago I hit for I think exactly $1400 or something. Sure enough the attendant brought all 100’s. I was prepared though. I mean come on. Expecting $100 on $1400? I still tip at least $20 on every hand pay. Actually I don’t really mind that. It’s all the other tipping that gets me.
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really?? 7 20s is fine on $2040 jackpot with the hint to tip them $60+?
If it's $1400, then yeah 100's and five 20's is reasonable.
but not 7 20s on $2040
Quote: NathanSpeaking of Employees stealing from their Employers and getting fired/pressed charges against, a WOV Poster said he owned and ran a store that sold lottery tickets. Two of his Employees stole scratch off lottery tickets and he confronted them over the theft. They claimed that they were going to pay him back with the lottery tickets winnings.
He pretended to not be all that upset and asked them to write a note that said that they promised to pay him back with the lottery winnings from the stolen lottery tickets and sign it. They wrote the note promising to pay him back with the lottery winnings from the stolen lottery tickets.
He used that note to press charges against them and get them prosecuted. He had cleverly gotten them to write a written confession of theft and sign it. I think the forgone conclusion was that he had also fired them over the theft even though he hasn't said that. 💡
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It'a an old cop trick. Haul a suspect in and explain that the victim is willing to forgive them if they just write a letter of apology. So suspect writes a letter of apology, saying it was wrong to steal from them, or to assault them or vandalize their car or whatever and ask for forgiveness. Instead, now the cop has a signed confession, in the suspects own handwriting and obtained legally.
Tipping has gotten out of hand. I don't mind tipping those jobs that historically was part of the job-waiters, bellboys, casino dealers, etc. But beyond that is just getting to be too much.
Quote: billryanPerhaps I'm missing it, but what jobs in a casino that weren't traditionally tipped are now expecting them?
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When did slot attendants become traditionally tipped jobs?
Thought they were hired at decent pay without tips?
I never knew people even tipped them when I was just a craps player.
Then I started vp to earn pts cheaply to make Diamond Plus for free access to the Diamond lounges.
I tipped the craps dealers but never tipped for a hand pay.
More than a decade later, I discovered AP on the Harley-Davidson slot but I don't remember when I started tipping the slot attendants.
Or why.
Quote: billryanPerhaps I'm missing it, but what jobs in a casino that weren't traditionally tipped are now expecting them?
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I think it's mostly an illusion caused by replacing dining with fast food at the mall food courts that are everywhere on the lower end now, and they all have their tip jars out, and tipping fast food cashiers is not traditional.
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: KevinAAQuote: SandybestdogThis tipping society we have is so out of hand eventually it has a breaking point.
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It's not the employer's fault if an employee steals. That's ridiculous.
Slot attendants have been a tipped position for a long time. It is not a part of tip creep.
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Didn't think there will ever be a breaking point for the costumer to tipping.
I thought it was going to be tablets where to tip 0%, you had to press other. ie: Take out orders
That made me go to that restaurant less till lots of restaurants started doing it.
Now I got Costco for better food variety and quality.
Then I thought when the min tip button on tablets got raised to 18%.
And some high end restaurants now have 20% minimum.
Will 25% as the minimum tip button be the straw that breaks the camels back?
As for slot attendants being a tipped position, this is the 1st I've heard of that. They are adaquetly paid without tips.
And I've actually stopped tipping them for minimum handpays because tipping is so out of hand.
I also won't tip if the jackpot is like $2040 and they bring 100s and seven 20s. Like they want $60+ in tips.
And since they do that as standard tells me that they have been tipped $60+ for that small jackpot
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And if i see the min tip button at 25%, i'll hit other and tip 10% and explain it's because the stupid 25% min tip button
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Slot attendants are adequately paid without tips? LOL
If you win 2040 from a place that breaks down the last hundred, just tell them "all large". Don't stiff them for not being mind readers.
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Slot attendants are adequately paid without tips? LOL
If you win 2040 from a place that breaks down the last hundred, just tell them "all large". Don't stiff them for not being mind readers.
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Or stiff them to teach them that expecting $60+ tips on $2040 is greedy
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: KevinAA
Slot attendants are adequately paid without tips? LOL
If you win 2040 from a place that breaks down the last hundred, just tell them "all large". Don't stiff them for not being mind readers.
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Or stiff them to teach them that expecting $60+ tips on $2040 is greedy
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Are you incapable of speaking? Too afraid to speak to the staff?
When service people get stiffed, they don't know why if you don't tell them. They would much prefer the customers to say what they want or complain about something after the fact.
But for slot attendants there's not enough data, so I asked around. I'm not confident I got it right. There are also issues such as that I list $20 for $1200, and $50 for $5000, but what about amounts in between? Should it scale? Here's what I've got. I'm open to feedback.
| Handpay | Tip |
|---|---|
| $1200 | $20 |
| $5000 | $50 |
| $10,000 | $100 |
| $20,000 | $200 |
| $50,000 | $300 |
| $250,000 | $500 |
| $500,000 | $750 |
| $1M+ | $1000 |
Quote: MichaelBluejayWhen I made the tipping guide for Easy Vegas, I calculated how much to tip dealers and cocktail waitresses to get them to a living wage. (For cocktail waitresses, that included surveying how many drinks they delivered per hour. The Wizard helped me with some of that research, maybe because any excuse to pay attention to cocktail waitresses.)
But for slot attendants there's not enough data, so I asked around. I'm not confident I got it right. There are also issues such as that I list $20 for $1200, and $50 for $5000, but what about amounts in between? Should it scale? Here's what I've got. I'm open to feedback.
Handpay Tip $1200 $20 $5000 $50 $10,000 $100 $20,000 $200 $50,000 $300 $250,000 $500 $500,000 $750 $1M+ $1000
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me:
<$1500, $0
$1500-$2k, $5
$2k-$5k, $10
$5k+, $20
Altho the older i get, the more i'm leaning towards $0 for all slot handpays.
In my state, everyone makes at least double the Fed minimum wage except waitresses and poker dealers ($5/hr) and i'm assuming regular dealers as well
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: MichaelBluejayWhen I made the tipping guide for Easy Vegas, I calculated how much to tip dealers and cocktail waitresses to get them to a living wage. (For cocktail waitresses, that included surveying how many drinks they delivered per hour. The Wizard helped me with some of that research, maybe because any excuse to pay attention to cocktail waitresses.)
But for slot attendants there's not enough data, so I asked around. I'm not confident I got it right. There are also issues such as that I list $20 for $1200, and $50 for $5000, but what about amounts in between? Should it scale? Here's what I've got. I'm open to feedback.
Handpay Tip $1200 $20 $5000 $50 $10,000 $100 $20,000 $200 $50,000 $300 $250,000 $500 $500,000 $750 $1M+ $1000
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me:
<$1500, $0
$1500-$2k, $5
$2k-$5k, $10
$5k+, $20
Altho the older i get, the more i'm leaning towards $0 for all slot handpays.
In my state, everyone makes at least double the Fed minimum wage except waitresses and poker dealers ($5/hr) and i'm assuming regular dealers as well
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I hope you're okay with slow service.
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Are you incapable of speaking? Too afraid to speak to the staff?
When service people get stiffed, they don't know why if you don't tell them. They would much prefer the customers to say what they want or complain about something after the fact.
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I believe only twice have I not left a tip at a restaurant and both times I explicitly explained to the server why a tip was not deserved.
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This is actually pretty much my exact scale, although I have never won above $20k. But the correct amount over $250k is actually 0 because it doesn't matter how much you tip it will never be enough and that nasty Vegas Twitter handle will pick it up anyways and call you a bad person so you might as well just save your money.Quote: MichaelBluejayWhen I made the tipping guide for Easy Vegas, I calculated how much to tip dealers and cocktail waitresses to get them to a living wage. (For cocktail waitresses, that included surveying how many drinks they delivered per hour. The Wizard helped me with some of that research, maybe because any excuse to pay attention to cocktail waitresses.)
But for slot attendants there's not enough data, so I asked around. I'm not confident I got it right. There are also issues such as that I list $20 for $1200, and $50 for $5000, but what about amounts in between? Should it scale? Here's what I've got. I'm open to feedback.
Handpay Tip $1200 $20 $5000 $50 $10,000 $100 $20,000 $200 $50,000 $300 $250,000 $500 $500,000 $750 $1M+ $1000
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Tipping is a lot like taxes. Everyone thinks everyone else who makes more than them doesn't pay enough and if they made that much they of course wouldn't have a problem paying so much more until they of course do get to that point then they suddenly (and rightly) remember all the hard work and losses along the way to getting there and realize that everyone else isn't entitled to their money.
If you believe you are doing the right thing, in this case tipping the correct amount on 250k, then it shouldn't matter what people say or think.Quote: SandybestdogThis is actually pretty much my exact scale, although I have never won above $20k. But the correct amount over $250k is actually 0 because it doesn't matter how much you tip it will never be enough and that nasty Vegas Twitter handle will pick it up anyways and call you a bad person so you might as well just save your money.Quote: MichaelBluejayWhen I made the tipping guide for Easy Vegas, I calculated how much to tip dealers and cocktail waitresses to get them to a living wage. (For cocktail waitresses, that included surveying how many drinks they delivered per hour. The Wizard helped me with some of that research, maybe because any excuse to pay attention to cocktail waitresses.)
But for slot attendants there's not enough data, so I asked around. I'm not confident I got it right. There are also issues such as that I list $20 for $1200, and $50 for $5000, but what about amounts in between? Should it scale? Here's what I've got. I'm open to feedback.
Handpay Tip $1200 $20 $5000 $50 $10,000 $100 $20,000 $200 $50,000 $300 $250,000 $500 $500,000 $750 $1M+ $1000
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Quote: AxelWolfIf you believe you are doing the right thing, in this case tipping the correct amount on 250k, then it shouldn't matter what people say or think.Quote: SandybestdogThis is actually pretty much my exact scale, although I have never won above $20k. But the correct amount over $250k is actually 0 because it doesn't matter how much you tip it will never be enough and that nasty Vegas Twitter handle will pick it up anyways and call you a bad person so you might as well just save your money.Quote: MichaelBluejayWhen I made the tipping guide for Easy Vegas, I calculated how much to tip dealers and cocktail waitresses to get them to a living wage. (For cocktail waitresses, that included surveying how many drinks they delivered per hour. The Wizard helped me with some of that research, maybe because any excuse to pay attention to cocktail waitresses.)
But for slot attendants there's not enough data, so I asked around. I'm not confident I got it right. There are also issues such as that I list $20 for $1200, and $50 for $5000, but what about amounts in between? Should it scale? Here's what I've got. I'm open to feedback.
Handpay Tip $1200 $20 $5000 $50 $10,000 $100 $20,000 $200 $50,000 $300 $250,000 $500 $500,000 $750 $1M+ $1000
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If you feel you now have $500 you don’t need, I can think of 286 charities more worthy than the slot attendant who is providing zero added value to you. Heck, even sending the money to BillyRyan makes more sense.
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Jordhex is a prime example of a Bot, someone who just says ridiculous things like,"Hello everyone!" And doesn't post any REAL posts or threads. 💡
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Jordhex is a prime example of a Bot, someone who just says ridiculous things like,"Hello everyone!" And doesn't post any REAL posts or threads. 💡
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The attempt at embedding affiliate links in a (now purged) post is probably what got the account banned.
The thumbtacking didn't help.
I have had years where I had 3 million in w2gs. I tip around 1/4 of a percent on average. 1200 -2500 $5
4-5k $10 10k $20. 20k. $40. 100k zero because whatever I give it won’t be enough to make them happy.
I don't disagree. As I said, if YOU feel you are doing the right thing then it doesn't matter what others say or think.Quote: SOOPOOQuote: AxelWolfIf you believe you are doing the right thing, in this case tipping the correct amount on 250k, then it shouldn't matter what people say or think.Quote: SandybestdogThis is actually pretty much my exact scale, although I have never won above $20k. But the correct amount over $250k is actually 0 because it doesn't matter how much you tip it will never be enough and that nasty Vegas Twitter handle will pick it up anyways and call you a bad person so you might as well just save your money.Quote: MichaelBluejayWhen I made the tipping guide for Easy Vegas, I calculated how much to tip dealers and cocktail waitresses to get them to a living wage. (For cocktail waitresses, that included surveying how many drinks they delivered per hour. The Wizard helped me with some of that research, maybe because any excuse to pay attention to cocktail waitresses.)
But for slot attendants there's not enough data, so I asked around. I'm not confident I got it right. There are also issues such as that I list $20 for $1200, and $50 for $5000, but what about amounts in between? Should it scale? Here's what I've got. I'm open to feedback.
Handpay Tip $1200 $20 $5000 $50 $10,000 $100 $20,000 $200 $50,000 $300 $250,000 $500 $500,000 $750 $1M+ $1000
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If you feel you now have $500 you don’t need, I can think of 286 charities more worthy than the slot attendant who is providing zero added value to you. Heck, even sending the money to BillyRyan makes more sense.
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: AxelWolfIf you believe you are doing the right thing, in this case tipping the correct amount on 250k, then it shouldn't matter what people say or think.
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If you feel you now have $500 you don’t need, I can think of 286 charities more worthy than the slot attendant who is providing zero added value to you. Heck, even sending the money to BillyRyan makes more sense.
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I would rather give a tip to a slot attendant than donate to a charity. The whole charity, non profit, NGO thing is about as out of hand as the current tipping culture. What’s worse is all their employees think they’re so special and are saving the world.
