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September 25th, 2024 at 2:33:15 PM permalink
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Maybe this will sound mean, but have to ask anyway. What’s the ratio of obese people showing up at food banks to get food?

Nah, I don’t think it needs to look like the gruel line at a gulag, but I’m just curious about something relevant to the meritocracy index.
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Why not volunteer a few hours at one and get back to us with your observations.
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September 25th, 2024 at 3:06:25 PM permalink
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Maybe this will sound mean, but have to ask anyway. What’s the ratio of obese people showing up at food banks to get food?

Nah, I don’t think it needs to look like the gruel line at a gulag, but I’m just curious about something relevant to the meritocracy index.
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Why not volunteer a few hours at one and get back to us with your observations.
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I will if I get interested enough. I’m only interested enough to ask the question.
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September 25th, 2024 at 3:09:38 PM permalink
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Maybe this will sound mean, but have to ask anyway. What’s the ratio of obese people showing up at food banks to get food?

Nah, I don’t think it needs to look like the gruel line at a gulag, but I’m just curious about something relevant to the meritocracy index.
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Why not volunteer a few hours at one and get back to us with your observations.
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I will if I get interested enough. I’m only interested enough to ask the question.
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After living in Vegas for 30 years and seeing lots of homeless people, I don't remember seeing many overweight homeless people. My assumption would be the overweight ones were newly homeless.
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September 25th, 2024 at 3:17:19 PM permalink
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Maybe this will sound mean, but have to ask anyway. What’s the ratio of obese people showing up at food banks to get food?

Nah, I don’t think it needs to look like the gruel line at a gulag, but I’m just curious about something relevant to the meritocracy index.
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Why not volunteer a few hours at one and get back to us with your observations.
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I will if I get interested enough. I’m only interested enough to ask the question.
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After living in Vegas for 30 years and seeing lots of homeless people, I don't remember seeing many overweight homeless people. My assumption would be the overweight ones were newly homeless.
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That would be my observation after 10 years. But I don’t think street people are the only ones going to food banks.
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September 25th, 2024 at 8:51:45 PM permalink
If I continue my hobby, I'll be hitting food banks to supplement what I'm paying for out of pocket. I'm obese, and I'm sure someone driving by seeing me in my newish car will think something incorrect. I've yet to come across any obese homeless.
I have a bag with two of my old size 52 jeans and a pair of size 14 sneakers( signed by an NBA player), but I have yet to meet anyone who needs those sizes.
I've received about thirty blankets so far, but I have not given any of them out yet.
The city shut down the large homeless camp in town, scattering groups in all directions. The last time they did it, the police arrived in the middle of the night and gave them twenty minutes to pack and leave. They bulldozed all the tents and shelters. They gave a week's notice this time, and only a few were left at the deadline.
Around dusk, I was behind a mostly shuttered strip mall, looking for some people who live in the wooded lot next to it. I drove around a corner and found four Tuscon cops questioning two men. As I drove by, one of them stopped me, but he waved me on when I told him what I was doing and showed him the duffle bag of food.

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September 26th, 2024 at 2:12:17 AM permalink
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Maybe this will sound mean, but have to ask anyway. What’s the ratio of obese people showing up at food banks to get food?

Nah, I don’t think it needs to look like the gruel line at a gulag, but I’m just curious about something relevant to the meritocracy index.
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Persnal experience at UK provincial foodbank.... I've served maybe 100 or so 'clients' personally and not one was anything like obese. I'm 175lb and most looked to be similar or less.

About 50% arrived on foot and were overwhelmed by the multiple carrier bags of food, which they needed to somehow carry home. Some had to make multiple trips or come back with something like a pushchair. Occasionally, we'd deliver to them, and I'd get to see their living conditions. The other 50% were being assisted by someone in social work in their car.

All our clients need to have a referral from one of multiple sources. Social Services, Police, Probation department, Citizens advice Bureau, Samaritans, etc.

The only times I feel we are being duped is when the odd one calls a taxi on their late model iPhone, but they are few. Most are clearly in real need.

I try not to judge.
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September 26th, 2024 at 2:20:24 AM permalink
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If I continue my hobby, I'll be hitting food banks to supplement what I'm paying for out of pocket. I'm obese, and I'm sure someone driving by seeing me in my newish car will think something incorrect. I've yet to come across any obese homeless.
I have a bag with two of my old size 52 jeans and a pair of size 14 sneakers( signed by an NBA player), but I have yet to meet anyone who needs those sizes.
I've received about thirty blankets so far, but I have not given any of them out yet.
The city shut down the large homeless camp in town, scattering groups in all directions. The last time they did it, the police arrived in the middle of the night and gave them twenty minutes to pack and leave. They bulldozed all the tents and shelters. They gave a week's notice this time, and only a few were left at the deadline.
Around dusk, I was behind a mostly shuttered strip mall, looking for some people who live in the wooded lot next to it. I drove around a corner and found four Tuscon cops questioning two men. As I drove by, one of them stopped me, but he waved me on when I told him what I was doing and showed him the duffle bag of food.

Amazon is an incredible resource. Usually, you have to buy in bulk to get any discounts, but if you subscribe to an item, you get 15% off.
Setting up deliveries every two weeks reduces the space needed. I also get 6% credit by using their card and doing once-a-week deliveries.
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We've had UK news reports of homeless peoples tents and possessions being chucked into garbage trucks.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67392992
I've also witnessed police really hassling some homeless in town, whose only offense seemed to be that they 'made the place look untidy' Made me ashamed.
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September 26th, 2024 at 5:45:27 AM permalink
I’m not complaining about obese people, just trying to find some metrics for need. Maybe I’ve met too many scammers, and it’s made me wary.
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September 26th, 2024 at 5:49:19 AM permalink
I mean, there’s people who will drain old people’s life savings having them withdraw from the bank. There are people who will collect donations of people who think they are sick, or dying of cancer when they are not. People who steal from the charity that they run, or skim from donations.
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September 26th, 2024 at 6:06:34 AM permalink
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I mean, there’s people who will drain old people’s life savings having them withdraw from the bank. There are people who will collect donations of people who think they are sick, or dying of cancer when they are not. People who steal from the charity that they run, or skim from donations.
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understood and acknowledged. Yes. There are parasites. But I resist the urge to let a few parasites detract from the good that can be done.
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September 26th, 2024 at 8:07:40 AM permalink
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I mean, there’s people who will drain old people’s life savings having them withdraw from the bank. There are people who will collect donations of people who think they are sick, or dying of cancer when they are not. People who steal from the charity that they run, or skim from donations.
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That is precisely the reason we need more good people to get involved. Be the person who gives others reason to believe, not to doubt.
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September 26th, 2024 at 10:07:05 AM permalink
20+ years of doing this, my food bank avocation, I have seen a lot. What disturbs me the most is the number of recipients who smoke and those who somehow believe they are entitled and are rude. However, the vast majority are needy and do display some gratitude.

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September 26th, 2024 at 10:29:44 AM permalink
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If I continue my hobby, I'll be hitting food banks to supplement what I'm paying for out of pocket. I'm obese, and I'm sure someone driving by seeing me in my newish car will think something incorrect. I've yet to come across any obese homeless.
I have a bag with two of my old size 52 jeans and a pair of size 14 sneakers( signed by an NBA player), but I have yet to meet anyone who needs those sizes.
I've received about thirty blankets so far, but I have not given any of them out yet.
The city shut down the large homeless camp in town, scattering groups in all directions. The last time they did it, the police arrived in the middle of the night and gave them twenty minutes to pack and leave. They bulldozed all the tents and shelters. They gave a week's notice this time, and only a few were left at the deadline.
Around dusk, I was behind a mostly shuttered strip mall, looking for some people who live in the wooded lot next to it. I drove around a corner and found four Tuscon cops questioning two men. As I drove by, one of them stopped me, but he waved me on when I told him what I was doing and showed him the duffle bag of food.

Amazon is an incredible resource. Usually, you have to buy in bulk to get any discounts, but if you subscribe to an item, you get 15% off.
Setting up deliveries every two weeks reduces the space needed. I also get 6% credit by using their card and doing once-a-week deliveries.
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We've had UK news reports of homeless peoples tents and possessions being chucked into garbage trucks.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67392992
I've also witnessed police really hassling some homeless in town, whose only offense seemed to be that they 'made the place look untidy' Made me ashamed.
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So should we allow homeless people to camp out on public streets in front of peoples business and homes? Thats total BS.


I'm all for allowing designated areas for homeless people to set up camps etc. I oppose them camping out on public streets in the middle of towns.

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September 26th, 2024 at 10:35:59 AM permalink
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All our clients need to have a referral from one of multiple sources. Social Services, Police, Probation department, Citizens advice Bureau, Samaritans, etc.

The only times I feel we are being duped is when the odd one calls a taxi on their late model iPhone, but they are few. Most are clearly in real need.

I try not to judge.
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Unfortunately, if a majority of food banks in America needed a referral then i can see people trying to game the system.
In fact, i bet more people will try because it'll be shorter lines than the current 1hr waits
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September 26th, 2024 at 11:25:30 AM permalink
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If I continue my hobby, I'll be hitting food banks to supplement what I'm paying for out of pocket. I'm obese, and I'm sure someone driving by seeing me in my newish car will think something incorrect. I've yet to come across any obese homeless.
I have a bag with two of my old size 52 jeans and a pair of size 14 sneakers( signed by an NBA player), but I have yet to meet anyone who needs those sizes.
I've received about thirty blankets so far, but I have not given any of them out yet.
The city shut down the large homeless camp in town, scattering groups in all directions. The last time they did it, the police arrived in the middle of the night and gave them twenty minutes to pack and leave. They bulldozed all the tents and shelters. They gave a week's notice this time, and only a few were left at the deadline.
Around dusk, I was behind a mostly shuttered strip mall, looking for some people who live in the wooded lot next to it. I drove around a corner and found four Tuscon cops questioning two men. As I drove by, one of them stopped me, but he waved me on when I told him what I was doing and showed him the duffle bag of food.

Amazon is an incredible resource. Usually, you have to buy in bulk to get any discounts, but if you subscribe to an item, you get 15% off.
Setting up deliveries every two weeks reduces the space needed. I also get 6% credit by using their card and doing once-a-week deliveries.
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We've had UK news reports of homeless peoples tents and possessions being chucked into garbage trucks.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67392992
I've also witnessed police really hassling some homeless in town, whose only offense seemed to be that they 'made the place look untidy' Made me ashamed.
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So should we allow homeless people to camp out on public streets in front of peoples business and homes? Thats total BS.


I'm all for allowing designated areas for homeless people to set up camps etc. I oppose them camping out on public streets in the middle of towns.

Places like Slab City, I 100% support.
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We agree. I have no objection to the police keeping the homeless from setting up camp in public parks or on public sidewalks.
I support how the police removed the camp in the park, warning the people and letting them move their possessions. I object to police raiding a place in the middle of the night and giving people minutes to pack-- after allowing them to be there for months.
Tucson, in particular has large tracts of dry river beds that are not used by the public.
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September 26th, 2024 at 2:43:01 PM permalink
A minimum requirement of living in a public area is the keeping the place clean. Picking up after themselves. It doesn’t have to look like a military camp, but it should have.some semblance of people taking care of the place where they’re staying.

Btw, that reminds me of the one time I had pulled off the road on i-95 going back to Vegas from California. You can’t really see how much liter there is on roadside until you get out. There was a lot. (No homeless people though, just all regular folks throwing crap out their windows I’m sure)
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you must love chess and I'd be willing to bet you're very, very good at it
it's a nasty drive from Baltimore to downtown DC and then back
I remember the chess games at Dupont Circle - I'm from DC - the games there are legendary - and I think there were many very, very good players there
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At the time I was more into chess than I am now. I don't claim to be an outstanding player. Good at the recreational level.

One thing I liked about Dupont is it wasn't expected to play for money. People played for the love of the game.

As to the drive, I lived near Catonsville and would park at the New Carroltown station, if I remember correctly. I'd switch from the yellow to the red line and get off at the Dupont Circle station. Sometimes I would hit a museum of something while I was down there, until I saw all of them. Yes, it took a while to get there, but I rather like trains, including subways. Plus I was single at the time and had nothing better to do. Women didn't start speaking to me until I was about 30 and this would have been before then.
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September 26th, 2024 at 5:11:36 PM permalink
I volunteered at a Church food bank over the course of a year. We’d show up early Saturday mornings and sort everything then hand it out. We’d assemble packages with each bag containing a cross section of the foodstuffs received.

Besides the main cross section bag we’d also hand out certain items by themselves on demand.

It was canned goods, dry foods like rice beans etc. also dried fruit cereals there was really no telling what might show up. Could be pancake mix one week syrup the next.

It was not a diet for anyone trying to eat organic or gourmet although sometimes there were some near gourmet items in the mix. Mostly it was solid food basic staples. Lot of bulk large size packages.

Few things I noticed. Some of the food was near expiration dates or at least closer to expiration than would be expected at the supermarket. And most of the volunteers set aside and took the “best” food home with them.

I also occasionally noticed someone coming through the line more than once although I never said anything. Other volunteers would point out certain participants in the line who supposedly sold their bags down the street right after pick up.

I didn’t do it every Saturday but I’d show up maybe a couple times a month. Eventually I just got too busy to do it and feel like I put in pro bono for the community in other ways.
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September 26th, 2024 at 6:07:33 PM permalink
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Well SHAZAMM. Several months ago, I posted that I volunteer at a local food bank. I have worked there as a volunteer for over 20 yrs. The bank has grown from a small one truck operation to the largest in the region. We now have 2 refrigerated trucks, a box truck, and a van plus my own E350 van. I personally have provided over $100K of value to their operation including time, gas, insurance, expansion of giving from Pepsi, Target, WM, etc.

It has been a personal joy and quite fulfilling to be able to help and give.

Pre-emptive Word to the mods: EB will surely produce a vitriolic, negative, insulting post as he has many times in the past. DO NOT TURN A BLIND EYE.

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So active for somebody in their '80s. Remember when I said I used a cane when I walk outdoors and you replied that you're in your '80s and don't require any kind of help like using a cane. Amazing that somebody in their 80s can do all this stuff that you're claiming to do. They must do local newspaper articles about you.
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October 1st, 2024 at 7:06:23 AM permalink
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I mean, there’s people who will drain old people’s life savings having them withdraw from the bank. There are people who will collect donations of people who think they are sick, or dying of cancer when they are not. People who steal from the charity that they run, or skim from donations.
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understood and acknowledged. Yes. There are parasites. But I resist the urge to let a few parasites detract from the good that can be done.
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From what I've observed as a supervisor and technician, criminals are mostly not homeless,. They steal before they would become homeless.
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October 1st, 2024 at 7:51:40 AM permalink
I went through my original 60 bags and ordered 100 more. This was by far the most satisfying task I've done.
I'm still experimenting with things and have had limited feedback. Apples are not big in the homeless community, as many don't have teeth. Bananas go much better. It seems like tuna in a pouch is more desirable than tuna in a can, and that a surprising number of homeless are vegans.
I'm low on almost everything, and the resupply is set for Thursday so I've a day or two to relax.
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October 2nd, 2024 at 9:01:56 AM permalink
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I volunteered at a Church food bank over the course of a year. We’d show up early Saturday mornings and sort everything then hand it out. We’d assemble packages with each bag containing a cross section of the foodstuffs received.



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I didn’t do it every Saturday but I’d show up maybe a couple times a month. Eventually I just got too busy to do it and feel like I put in pro bono for the community in other ways.
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Why not tell us of your other "pro bono for the community" stuff?

I could ask or comment on the rest of this post, but probably would be suspended because the obvious is not mentioned.

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Well SHAZAMM. Several months ago, I posted that I volunteer at a local food bank. I have worked there as a volunteer for over 20 yrs. The bank has grown from a small one truck operation to the largest in the region. We now have 2 refrigerated trucks, a box truck, and a van plus my own E350 van. I personally have provided over $100K of value to their operation including time, gas, insurance, expansion of giving from Pepsi, Target, WM, etc.

It has been a personal joy and quite fulfilling to be able to help and give.

Pre-emptive Word to the mods: EB will surely produce a vitriolic, negative, insulting post as he has many times in the past. DO NOT TURN A BLIND EYE.

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So active for somebody in their '80s. Remember when I said I used a cane when I walk outdoors and you replied that you're in your '80s and don't require any kind of help like using a cane. Amazing that somebody in their 80s can do all this stuff that you're claiming to do. They must do local newspaper articles about you.
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Yep, EB, you are right. The Food Bank Gazette has written several articles and has awarded me Food Bank Volunteer of the Year several times.

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October 2nd, 2024 at 11:27:41 AM permalink
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Well SHAZAMM. Several months ago, I posted that I volunteer at a local food bank. I have worked there as a volunteer for over 20 yrs. The bank has grown from a small one truck operation to the largest in the region. We now have 2 refrigerated trucks, a box truck, and a van plus my own E350 van. I personally have provided over $100K of value to their operation including time, gas, insurance, expansion of giving from Pepsi, Target, WM, etc.

It has been a personal joy and quite fulfilling to be able to help and give.

Pre-emptive Word to the mods: EB will surely produce a vitriolic, negative, insulting post as he has many times in the past. DO NOT TURN A BLIND EYE.

tuttigym
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So active for somebody in their '80s. Remember when I said I used a cane when I walk outdoors and you replied that you're in your '80s and don't require any kind of help like using a cane. Amazing that somebody in their 80s can do all this stuff that you're claiming to do. They must do local newspaper articles about you.
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Yep, EB, you are right. The Food Bank Gazette has written several articles and has awarded me Food Bank Volunteer of the Year several times.

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Wow, could you post one of those articles here? We can wait while you look for it. (2 weeks later) You couldn't find it? That's what I thought..
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October 2nd, 2024 at 11:39:11 AM permalink
The heatwave has really disrupted the normal patterns of my homeless neighbors. I made the twenty-mile round trip to an auction house, armed with about eight bags and a dozen bananas, and came home with half that.
The one camp of six that I kind of adopted has moved on. The tarp and pallets they'd assembled in a wooden lot are still there but with an upgrade and new inhabitants.
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October 2nd, 2024 at 11:41:28 PM permalink
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I volunteered at a Church food bank over the course of a year. We’d show up early Saturday mornings and sort everything then hand it out. We’d assemble packages with each bag containing a cross section of the foodstuffs received.



Quote: MDawg

I didn’t do it every Saturday but I’d show up maybe a couple times a month. Eventually I just got too busy to do it and feel like I put in pro bono for the community in other ways.
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Why not tell us of your other "pro bono for the community" stuff?

I could ask or comment on the rest of this post, but probably would be suspended because the obvious is not mentioned.

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He's a lawyer. The inference is clear...and trustworthy.
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I also like to help those in need.

But I think a reality check is in order: if you continue to have in-person interaction with those you encounter living on the street, you are eventually going to find trouble. For they did not get there as a result of good judgment, sound decisionmaking, or personal restraint. Usually they have burned every bridge they had back to a normal life with selfishness and stubbornness. Some of them have been banned from the homeless shelters because they are a danger to the people there.

Your admirable efforts might be better spent in volunteering with some organization that does the same things, but as a group led by experienced and prepared people, with credentials.
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October 3rd, 2024 at 9:13:55 AM permalink
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Well SHAZAMM. Several months ago, I posted that I volunteer at a local food bank. I have worked there as a volunteer for over 20 yrs. The bank has grown from a small one truck operation to the largest in the region. We now have 2 refrigerated trucks, a box truck, and a van plus my own E350 van. I personally have provided over $100K of value to their operation including time, gas, insurance, expansion of giving from Pepsi, Target, WM, etc.

It has been a personal joy and quite fulfilling to be able to help and give.

Pre-emptive Word to the mods: EB will surely produce a vitriolic, negative, insulting post as he has many times in the past. DO NOT TURN A BLIND EYE.

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So active for somebody in their '80s. Remember when I said I used a cane when I walk outdoors and you replied that you're in your '80s and don't require any kind of help like using a cane. Amazing that somebody in their 80s can do all this stuff that you're claiming to do. They must do local newspaper articles about you.
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Yep, EB, you are right. The Food Bank Gazette has written several articles and has awarded me Food Bank Volunteer of the Year several times.

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Wow, could you post one of those articles here? We can wait while you look for it. (2 weeks later) You couldn't find it? That's what I thought..
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You are so easy.

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I had some business up north today, and I rode the service road, where someone is often panhandling at the lights.
The first light had a fairly well-dressed guy who didn't look homeless but might be new to it. I handed him a bag, and he was thankful but didn't even look inside. About a mile away, I gave a bag to a guy I'd guess is in his fifties but could be seventy. He said thanks, but as he walked away and opened it, he turned and gave me a smile and a thumbs up.
The next light I saw a Mexican man I'd seen before. He was wearing the same clothes and looked bad. I handed him the bag, and by the time he was a few steps away, he was sucking down one of the apple sauces. Before the light changed, he was eating the granola bar. He was hungry.
It was oddly satisfying.
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October 3rd, 2024 at 11:47:43 PM permalink
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I had some business up north today, and I rode the service road, where someone is often panhandling at the lights.
The first light had a fairly well-dressed guy who didn't look homeless but might be new to it. I handed him a bag, and he was thankful but didn't even look inside. About a mile away, I gave a bag to a guy I'd guess is in his fifties but could be seventy. He said thanks, but as he walked away and opened it, he turned and gave me a smile and a thumbs up.
The next light I saw a Mexican man I'd seen before. He was wearing the same clothes and looked bad. I handed him the bag, and by the time he was a few steps away, he was sucking down one of the apple sauces. Before the light changed, he was eating the granola bar. He was hungry.
It was oddly satisfying.
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You have so many stories. Stories and stories. Your stories are almost endless. You should start a campfire club where everybody sits around the fire while you tell your stories..
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October 4th, 2024 at 4:11:00 AM permalink
The wise man speaks when he has something to say, while the fool speaks because he has to say something.
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October 4th, 2024 at 7:17:23 AM permalink
EB reminds me of Sheldon in that flashback episode of Big Bang Theory

Howard "Do you have an opinion on everything?"

Sheldon "Yes"

Howard "And you assume you are always right?"

Sheldon "It's not an assumption"
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October 4th, 2024 at 7:20:13 AM permalink
Feed a fever, starve a troll.
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October 4th, 2024 at 8:25:11 AM permalink
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The wise man speaks when he has something to say, while the fool speaks because he has to say something.
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If that were the case then neither of us would ever be speaking. How boring would that be.
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October 6th, 2024 at 2:08:04 PM permalink
I had a couple of nice wins at auctions today. I won a lot of forty long-sleeved men's shirts in various sizes for $30 and another with five used sleeping bags for less than $5 a pop. Sleeping bags are a valued commodity in the unhoused community and tend to walk away if not well guarded. The heatwave has broken, but nights are still in the high 50s.
Next weekend, Tucson hold a reverse garage sale where families and businesses set up tables or blankets and allow people to get a free change of clothes or shoes. A couple of dozen barbers and hair stylists give haircuts and grooming, and various agencies try to get people to take advantage of the many services available.
The city says there are only about 600 homeless in the city, but the VA says there are almost 500 homeless Vets. I don't think anyone knows, and few seem to care.
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October 6th, 2024 at 4:48:12 PM permalink
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I had a couple of nice wins at auctions today. I won a lot of forty long-sleeved men's shirts in various sizes for $30 and another with five used sleeping bags for less than $5 a pop. Sleeping bags are a valued commodity in the unhoused community and tend to walk away if not well guarded. The heatwave has broken, but nights are still in the high 50s.
Next weekend, Tucson hold a reverse garage sale where families and businesses set up tables or blankets and allow people to get a free change of clothes or shoes. A couple of dozen barbers and hair stylists give haircuts and grooming, and various agencies try to get people to take advantage of the many services available.
The city says there are only about 600 homeless in the city, but the VA says there are almost 500 homeless Vets. I don't think anyone knows, and few seem to care.
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I've never even seen a homeless person in my area. I know they exist because I hear about them once in awhile but they are so few in number that you could go years and not see one of them. I don't like living where there are homeless people it's why I left Santa Barbara. Too much crime. In those days we called them bums. That was before political correctness struck. They would say, it's not their fault their homeless. 95% of the ones I knew it was 100% their fault, they loved it. They were lazy bums who didn't want to work.
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October 7th, 2024 at 9:15:30 AM permalink
I did an early morning run as I had to go for fasting blood work. None of my "regulars" were about, and I didn't find anyone on this side of the river bed. I drove over to an area I generally avoid and found plenty of prospects. Twelve big bags and six mini-bags were distributed. Pergaps the best $50 I've spent in a while.
It's 9 AM, and I've accomplished more than most people do in a week.
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October 7th, 2024 at 10:55:55 AM permalink
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I did an early morning run as I had to go for fasting blood work. None of my "regulars" were about, and I didn't find anyone on this side of the river bed. I drove over to an area I generally avoid and found plenty of prospects. Twelve big bags and six mini-bags were distributed. Pergaps the best $50 I've spent in a while.
It's 9 AM, and I've accomplished more than most people do in a week.
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You must know some really lazy people. I spend hours a day working 7 days a week around here. I have a cat Ranch
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October 7th, 2024 at 11:59:31 AM permalink
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I did an early morning run as I had to go for fasting blood work. None of my "regulars" were about, and I didn't find anyone on this side of the river bed. I drove over to an area I generally avoid and found plenty of prospects. Twelve big bags and six mini-bags were distributed. Pergaps the best $50 I've spent in a while.
It's 9 AM, and I've accomplished more than most people do in a week.
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You must know some really lazy people. I spend hours a day working 7 days a week around here. I have a cat Ranch
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He accomplishes a lot more than I do. My project today is to blow up the Grimace float and hang on for the duration of Milton. It turns out it was a practical birthday gift for the wife,

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October 7th, 2024 at 12:06:59 PM permalink
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I did an early morning run as I had to go for fasting blood work. None of my "regulars" were about, and I didn't find anyone on this side of the river bed. I drove over to an area I generally avoid and found plenty of prospects. Twelve big bags and six mini-bags were distributed. Pergaps the best $50 I've spent in a while.
It's 9 AM, and I've accomplished more than most people do in a week.
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You must know some really lazy people. I spend hours a day working 7 days a week around here. I have a cat Ranch
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Be sure to put your address on it. God knows where it might end up.

He accomplishes a lot more than I do. My project today is to blow up the Grimace float and hang on for the duration of Milton. It turns out it was a practical birthday gift for the wife,


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What an inspiring story! It’s amazing how one conversation can lead to such a positive change. Your efforts to create bags for those in need are truly commendable.

I love that you took the time to research and find the best deals for your supplies. It sounds like you’re making a real difference with every bag you hand out.

It’s great that you’re thinking about how to keep this going by setting up a dedicated fund. That will help you sustain your efforts over time.

It’s a shame about the laws in Tucson regarding feeding the homeless, but it’s awesome that you’re willing to go through the process to help others. Have you found any local groups or resources that support your work?

Thanks for sharing your journey! I’d love to hear more about your experiences and any tips you have for others who want to help.
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October 8th, 2024 at 8:19:26 AM permalink
I walked out on my porch a few minutes ago and found a box from Walmart. Someone has sent me 200 servings of Jif peanut butter.
No name or note. That simple, much-appreciated gesture will provide a meal for forty or fifty hungry people.
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October 8th, 2024 at 9:16:04 AM permalink
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I walked out on my porch a few minutes ago and found a box from Walmart. Someone has sent me 200 servings of Jif peanut butter.
No name or note. That simple, much-appreciated gesture will provide a meal for forty or fifty hungry people.
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People who know what you're doing has your address?

also, Single serve packets?
shouldn't it feed 200 people?
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October 8th, 2024 at 10:34:40 AM permalink
He gives them each four servings. Easy math puzzle :)
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October 8th, 2024 at 10:40:56 AM permalink
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He accomplishes a lot more than I do. My project today is to blow up the Grimace float and hang on for the duration of Milton. It turns out it was a practical birthday gift for the wife,


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This will obviously be the last thing someone sees before the hurricane blows over a tree on them tomorrow.
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October 8th, 2024 at 10:43:43 AM permalink
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I walked out on my porch a few minutes ago and found a box from Walmart. Someone has sent me 200 servings of Jif peanut butter.
No name or note. That simple, much-appreciated gesture will provide a meal for forty or fifty hungry people.
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People who know what you're doing has your address?

also, Single serve packets?
shouldn't it feed 200 people?
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I'm posting about this on my comic forum, and have nearly 5,000 transactions so those people have my address.
I figure a packet of saltines and four or five packs of jif would be a meal. A packet has enough in it to make two or three saltine sandwiches. Each packet has 3/16s of an ounce. A serving of fruit is 4 ounces.
I don't think you could make a regular white bread sandwich with just one packet.
My bags this week have
2 granola bars, a can of Vienna Sausage, a can of ravioli, cup of raman, 2 single serving apple sauces, a lil debbie product, a drink pouch, 1/4 box of saltines or ritz crackers, a cup of orange slices,a toothbrush, three travel toothpaste, a can opener, a nail clipper, a bic razor,soap and body wipes.

Next week, I'll swap the ravioli and Raman for a pouch of tuna, a couple of Jifs, and crackers. For the next couple of weeks, I'm working on warm clothing. I'm not sure how to distribute those so I may just end up collecting for another charity to distribute them.
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October 8th, 2024 at 11:03:40 AM permalink
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He gives them each four servings. Easy math puzzle :)
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... or five!

Peanut butter packets are convenient sustenance. I know "peanut butter on spoon" was a favorite treat for one of my ex-girlfriend's roommates.

It might be a bit odd to stab a straw into a peanut butter packet, but I can see something similar happening.
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October 8th, 2024 at 11:41:50 AM permalink
I think these might be single servings for grade schools or possibly what they offer at a hotel buffet breakfast. I've read that a serving of peanut butter is one of the best sources of nutrition.
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October 8th, 2024 at 12:24:00 PM permalink
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I think these might be single servings for grade schools or possibly what they offer at a hotel buffet breakfast. I've read that a serving of peanut butter is one of the best sources of nutrition.
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So is a banana, i think
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October 8th, 2024 at 1:26:02 PM permalink
I have used these and thought one was enough for a sandwich. Granted, it is a thin layer.

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