ReyGarcia
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October 22nd, 2023 at 2:38:24 PM permalink
When getting a player's card with a local driver's license, casinos give you fewer perks to lure you in.
One advantage of having a foreign passport is when you negotiate comp with the host, you get airfare, and casinos are willing to spend more to lure you in.

Even when two players have the exact same adt and loss, the guy used a foreign passport to get the player's card gets more comp value.
It's usually done by reaching the Far East/European host department, instead of the domestic host department.
Without a foreign passort, it can sometimes be done by changing the mailing address to a non-US address.

Have you seen this type of inequality in any casino?
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October 22nd, 2023 at 4:17:55 PM permalink
Quote: ReyGarcia

When getting a player's card with a local driver's license, casinos give you fewer perks to lure you in.
One advantage of having a foreign passport is when you negotiate comp with the host, you get airfare, and casinos are willing to spend more to lure you in.

Even when two players have the exact same adt and loss, the guy used a foreign passport to get the player's card gets more comp value.
It's usually done by reaching the Far East/European host department, instead of the domestic host department.
Without a foreign passort, it can sometimes be done by changing the mailing address to a non-US address.

Have you seen this type of inequality in any casino?
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this is so outlandish i believe it ... it reminds me of a paper i read about hosts but i dont know if they did give better perks to the guy who didnt live there because he didnt live there but because he simply had more money to lose
MDawg
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October 22nd, 2023 at 4:33:28 PM permalink
This is standard but most of what the players with foreign passports (all it takes is a foreign passport - the player may be a U.S. citizen too) get is a better loss rebate for example, and not better than what I have negotiated anyway. But, to get their better loss rebate all they need is a passport and a decent line or front money, while I need a very high credit line to get what I get.

Loss rebate may also translate to an "allowance" or "discount" the terms might depend on how high your credit line is.

As far as airfare I get that too, and really it doesn't matter how far or close you fly from (or if you fly at all), again, with negotiation, you can get a nice fixed % without even presenting any receipts, and from multiple resorts simultaneously too if you know how to play the game.
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October 22nd, 2023 at 4:35:18 PM permalink
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Quote: ReyGarcia

When getting a player's card with a local driver's license, casinos give you fewer perks to lure you in.
One advantage of having a foreign passport is when you negotiate comp with the host, you get airfare, and casinos are willing to spend more to lure you in.

Even when two players have the exact same adt and loss, the guy used a foreign passport to get the player's card gets more comp value.
It's usually done by reaching the Far East/European host department, instead of the domestic host department.
Without a foreign passort, it can sometimes be done by changing the mailing address to a non-US address.

Have you seen this type of inequality in any casino?
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this is so outlandish i believe it ... it reminds me of a paper i read about hosts but i dont know if they did give better perks to the guy who didnt live there because he didnt live there but because he simply had more money to lose
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This sounds like host action so I can't corroborated it.

But there are some casinos that do the opposite. They comp locals much better than people far away (although it's not the norm).

The reasoning I believe is people living near are expected to return more often so comps should be more desirable.

I even know of one casino that comps zero to anyone out of state although they may have changed that policy. This was about a decade ago. I never went back to find out and didn't move nearby either.
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October 22nd, 2023 at 4:36:27 PM permalink
D.Oz you're talking about penny ante players, what I wrote about above concerns real players.

What's more interesting is how some of these foreign players get such high credit lines, when the casinos know that if they don't pay depending on the country there is nothing the casino may do to collect unless the guy steps foot back in the U.S. Plus verifying a foreign player isn't as easy as verifying a U.S. resident so to a certain extent the casinos are taking quite a risk issuing credit to begin with.

I understand that some casinos have a standard policy of giving some of these foreign players X amount of credit without even checking banks because they come from countries where that sort of checking can't be done from here.

The big casinos have certain staff available to fly to these foreign countries and find these foreign players who have not paid their markers, and try to cajole them into paying, with the main incentive being - you can't ever gamble again in the U.S. unless you pay, but even that doesn't always work. There are stories of foreign players who have stiffed a given casino but welcomed heartily next door (as long as the D.A. doesn't get wind of it and arrest the player on a bad check charge).
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October 22nd, 2023 at 5:58:55 PM permalink
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D.Oz you're talking about penny ante players, what I wrote about above concerns real players.

What's more interesting is how some of these foreign players get such high credit lines, when the casinos know that if they don't pay depending on the country there is nothing the casino may do to collect unless the guy steps foot back in the U.S. Plus verifying a foreign player isn't as easy as verifying a U.S. resident so to a certain extent the casinos are taking quite a risk issuing credit to begin with.

I understand that some casinos have a standard policy of giving some of these foreign players X amount of credit without even checking banks because they come from countries where that sort of checking can't be done from here.

The big casinos have certain staff available to fly to these foreign countries and find these foreign players who have not paid their markers, and try to cajole them into paying, with the main incentive being - you can't ever gamble again in the U.S. unless you pay, but even that doesn't always work. There are stories of foreign players who have stiffed a given casino but welcomed heartily next door (as long as the D.A. doesn't get wind of it and arrest the player on a bad check charge).
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We are in agreement. My post Saif the guy is discussing host action.

My point was to discuss how casino comp action can work one way or another
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October 22nd, 2023 at 6:06:14 PM permalink
At one point, I had cards from NY, from Florida, and Henderson. For well over a year, I'd get mailings from all three.
Henderson got a lot of free play and food comps. The other two got room offers and food, not too much cash. I foolishly booked back to back room offers at the Rio, and my comps got cut way back.
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