New UTH Variant

Hello everybody! I've created a new UTH Variant which brings "The Tropics to the casino!" I'd like to get some feedback on gameplay, rules, payouts and anything else that catches your attention. Whether it's positive or negative feedback, I'd like to see how everybody feels about it and if this is something that you'd be interested in playing! The link below contains a promotional packet, rack card, felt layout, rules and a video on YouTube demonstrating gameplay!

www.bigpineapplethegame.com

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I don’t like the game. Dealer uses 3 cards after seeing all 5 community cards. Player has to discard one of theirs before seeing turn and river.

Any reason why my post got deleted?

Because you posted a link without permission

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Any reason why my post got deleted?
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https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/2-forum-rules/#post37215

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You're luck you still have a user ID

I don't think it was an ad.. the site certainly didn't seem to be commercial in nature - well, not to the gambling folk on this forum who would not be buying the game..
That's just my view though.. not really advertising, unless we have a lot of gaming directors on this forum too...

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Any reason why my post got deleted?
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https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/2-forum-rules/#post37215

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You're luck you still have a user ID
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I dont think it's links that are specifically not allowed, it's advertising and links for financial gain.


ZCore13

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Any reason why my post got deleted?
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https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/2-forum-rules/#post37215

#3

You're luck you still have a user ID
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I dont think it's links that are specifically not allowed, it's advertising and links for financial gain.


ZCore13
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OK Folks,
I may have shot from the him. I invite PineappleKing72 to send me his link and maybe the text from his original post, by Private Message. So long as the landing site is not monetized, it may be permissible.

Thank you!

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I don’t like the game. Dealer uses 3 cards after seeing all 5 community cards. Player has to discard one of theirs before seeing turn and river.
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That was one of the issues we first ran into when creating the game. We decided to counteract this that we'd make it so player always qualify unlike UTH where the dealer needs a pair. We also made the payouts more lucrative, and to give the player more of an edge we made it so that the card that's discarded will still qualify for the side bonus bets. I do appreciate the feedback though! Taking everything into account. As a gambler myself I know how important a player's feedback could be!

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OK Folks,
I may have shot from the him. I invite PineappleKing72 to send me his link and maybe the text from his original post, by Private Message. So long as the landing site is not monetized, it may be permissible.
link to original post

I've reinstated the original post. It does link to a website, but I don't seem it to be spam.

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Hello everybody! I've created a new UTH Variant which brings "The Tropics to the casino!" I'd like to get some feedback on gameplay, rules, payouts and anything else that catches your attention. Whether it's positive or negative feedback, I'd like to see how everybody feels about it and if this is something that you'd be interested in playing! The link below contains a promotional packet, rack card, felt layout, rules and a video on YouTube demonstrating gameplay!

www.bigpineapplethegame.com

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Good variation of UTH. I would have called it Ultimate Pineapple Poker to piggyback off the Ultimate name recognition. This should be marketed to smaller casinos at a price about half as much as UTH with a free trial. That's probably your quickest way into the market.


ZCore13

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Quote: PineappleKing72

Hello everybody! I've created a new UTH Variant which brings "The Tropics to the casino!" I'd like to get some feedback on gameplay, rules, payouts and anything else that catches your attention. Whether it's positive or negative feedback, I'd like to see how everybody feels about it and if this is something that you'd be interested in playing! The link below contains a promotional packet, rack card, felt layout, rules and a video on YouTube demonstrating gameplay!



(Post provisionally approved and reinstated by Oncedear)
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Good variation of UTH. I would have called it Ultimate Pineapple Poker to piggyback off the Ultimate name recognition. This should be marketed to smaller casinos at a price about half as much as UTH with a free trial. That's probably your quickest way into the market.


ZCore13
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We were actually debating the name for awhile but thinking back it probably would've been best to name it UPP. Only good thing was that it made the logo alot easier to design. Right now getting it in a small casino's hands isn't easy due to me being in the Miami area. Might have to fly out to Vegas soon.

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That was one of the issues we first ran into when creating the game. We decided to counteract this that we'd make it so player always qualify unlike UTH where the dealer needs a pair. We also made the payouts more lucrative, and to give the player more of an edge we made it so that the card that's discarded will still qualify for the side bonus bets. I do appreciate the feedback though! Taking everything into account. As a gambler myself I know how important a player's feedback could be!
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So just to be clear:
1. Dealer does not need to qualify in order for all wagers to be paid off
2. Dealer also receives 3 hole cards and may play any number of those cards in combination with the commons cards when making his best 5-card poker hand.

Is that correct?

I get a "Malware Page Blocked for your Protection" when I attempt to go to the stated webpage.

If your browser won't allow you to enter the website try disconnecting from your wifi and viewing from a mobile phone or changing the wifi settings. Certain wifi networks will give an issue when trying to view the link. Ran into the same issue when I tried viewing using my job's wifi lol

Dealer always qualifies. If the dealer has no pairs and a Jack High but the player has a Queen High or a higher ranking hand then they'll get paid on the blind and bets aswell. Unlike UTH where if the player does not have a pair then they only get paid on the 2x,3x, or 4x bet button and the blind gets returned to the player if dealer doesn't have a pair or better.

Dealer receives 3 hole card and must use the best two out of his hand. For example: Dealer has AA2 and the board shows 3-4-5-6-A then his hand would be A2 with a straight and the third card would be turned sideways to not confuse the players.

Bonus bets get paid out regardless if the hand is won or loss. If player bets on the straight bonus and has AK5 Preflop and the flop comes out 5-3-7 and the player decides to discard the K to leave him with A5 but then board ends up being 5-3-7-K-K then the player will still get paid the full house bonus because his discarded King would've given him a full house. The player will NOT get paid the Ante bonus payout unless he won the hand with a full house. Regardless of how the hand plays out the side bonuses will always be paid out (Including the discarded card)

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That was one of the issues we first ran into when creating the game. We decided to counteract this that we'd make it so player always qualify unlike UTH where the dealer needs a pair. We also made the payouts more lucrative, and to give the player more of an edge we made it so that the card that's discarded will still qualify for the side bonus bets. I do appreciate the feedback though! Taking everything into account. As a gambler myself I know how important a player's feedback could be!
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So just to be clear:
1. Dealer does not need to qualify in order for all wagers to be paid off
2. Dealer also receives 3 hole cards and may play any number of those cards in combination with the commons cards when making his best 5-card poker hand.

Is that correct?
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Accidentally forgot to quote lol, sorry. Answer up there though :)

I've done some thinking about game strategy, and the Big Pineapple optimal strategy is bound to be different than UTH.

There are a lot of factors that will drive a different strategy than UTH:

1. Dealer will make more powerful hands because they have 3 hole cards right up to the end -a total of 8 cards from which to make their 5-card poker hand.

2. Dealer doesn't need to qualify for the ante bet to be paid.

3. Players that decide to make the preflop 4X bet must discard one of the three hole cards immediately. Thus, there is a bit more incentive to check preflop because that allows you to wait until postflop to choose which hole card to discard.

I really don't know what the optimal game strategy for Big Pineapple is. But it's clear to me that it's going to require a lot of work to figure it out.

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I've done some thinking about game strategy, and the Big Pineapple optimal strategy is bound to be different than UTH.

There are a lot of factors that will drive a different strategy than UTH:

1. Dealer will make more powerful hands because they have 3 hole cards right up to the end -a total of 8 cards from which to make their 5-card poker hand.

2. Dealer doesn't need to qualify for the ante bet to be paid.

3. Players that decide to make the preflop 4X bet must discard one of the three hole cards immediately. Thus, there is a bit more incentive to check preflop because that allows you to wait until postflop to choose which hole card to discard.

I really don't know what the optimal game strategy for Big Pineapple is. But it's clear to me that it's going to require a lot of work to figure it out.
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Optimal strategy based off our mathematician was any pair of Js or higher was good for a 4x bet pre flop. Dealer will make more powerful hands but, you'll still get paid on the side bets which are pretty high considering you're using 3 cards to qualify for those bonuses. The main goal of the game was for lucrative payouts and a game that'll keep you in your seat longer. Even by losing a hand you can still make money off the side bets or recuperate some of it. I attached a GLI certification on our promotional packet on the website. We're trying to get a free trial in any casino right now to see how the game plays out. I'm very interested to see how it would play on a casino floor. As a player myself of MANY table games and even slots, it was hard to find the balance but the math seemed to work smoother than expected.