Full pay slots/vp in high limit but cover charge
In a small section of slots/vp in their high limit room, advertise all slots are 94%+ and all vp is 99.5%+.
But charge a x% cover charge for playing, payable from comps only.
so if the cover charge is .5% of play and you have $100 in comps, then you can play $10000 coin-in.
You still get points towards your card tier but not comps in this section.
What do you think?
Why?Quote: DieterI think gaming control will find a way to have a problem with the structure.
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Quote: 100xOddsWhy?Quote: DieterI think gaming control will find a way to have a problem with the structure.
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Off the top of my head, comps don't go in the drop, the state doesn't want RFB (much less a shopping spree at the time-bracelet boutique) in lieu of tax, requiring comps+cash to play the game restricts access by the public, and probably some things I haven't thought of.
As long as you can play for just cash without a players card, most of those concerns probably go away.
Decrementing the comp/points account for each game is a problem. Not incrementing it would not be a problem.
On the continent I've had some charge for entry, but I think some of these may allow one to join, presumably aimed towards locals.
Unfortunately, that's not true anymore, an establishment can get special permission or a special license, I don't know exactly what it's called, but it allows an establishment to charge a cover to enter their property, even if they have gaming.Quote: billryanI think Nevada law might prohibit charging a cover for gambling. I say this because a few of the clubs I'd go to in Henderson and Vegas would waive the door charge if you said you were there to gamble. I don't know if it is a regulation or just a custom that clubs observe. I know in one club, a security guy followed me to the bar and observed me putting $20 in a machine, but still gave me the stink-eye as if I was taking money out of his pocket.
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When I was clubbing frequently, we almost never got charged a cover if they had gaming, and we got to skip the line. The Beach in particular since they also had a sportsbook.
There were a few places like Pinkies and Hurricane Harry's that were charging a cover, but I gladly paid their cover since they gave you coupons when you paid that included valuable 4 of a kind coupons.
Quote: AxelWolfUnfortunately, that's not true anymore, an establishment can get special permission or a special license, I don't know exactly what it's called, but it allows an establishment to charge a cover to enter their property, even if they have gaming.
When I was clubbing frequently, we almost never got charged a cover if they had gaming, and we got to skip the line. The Beach in particular since they also had a sportsbook.
Correct, the venue must petition the Gaming Board and get approval. I believe the last place to do it was Playboy Club at the Palms. If a regular bar or casino tries to charge you they legally can not if you plan to gamble. I have got into many bar Super Bowl parties for free based on this.
I think those payouts are about average.Quote: 100xOddsHere's an idea to differentiate a casino from others:
In a small section of slots/vp in their high limit room, advertise all slots are 94%+ and all vp is 99.5%+.
But charge a x% cover charge for playing
What do you think?
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Whats the point of paying to play them when the payouts are no better than can be found elsewhere?
I mean, dont some casinos already advertise payout in that range, or higher, in some parts of their floor?
not in Atlantic city pre-pandemicQuote: DJTeddyBearI think those payouts are about average.Quote: 100xOddsHere's an idea to differentiate a casino from others:
In a small section of slots/vp in their high limit room, advertise all slots are 94%+ and all vp is 99.5%+.
But charge a x% cover charge for playing
What do you think?
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Whats the point of paying to play them when the payouts are no better than can be found elsewhere?
I mean, dont some casinos already advertise payout in that range, or higher, in some parts of their floor?
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI think those payouts are about average.Quote: 100xOddsHere's an idea to differentiate a casino from others:
In a small section of slots/vp in their high limit room, advertise all slots are 94%+ and all vp is 99.5%+.
But charge a x% cover charge for playing
What do you think?
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Whats the point of paying to play them when the payouts are no better than can be found elsewhere?
I mean, dont some casinos already advertise payout in that range, or higher, in some parts of their floor?
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94% is very good for most video slots. Most casinos average is below 90% for video slots
What problem is this trying to solve? Like.. I don't even understand why.Quote: 100xOddsHere's an idea to differentiate a casino from others:
In a small section of slots/vp in their high limit room, advertise all slots are 94%+ and all vp is 99.5%+.
But charge a x% cover charge for playing, payable from comps only.
so if the cover charge is .5% of play and you have $100 in comps, then you can play $10000 coin-in.
You still get points towards your card tier but not comps in this section.
What do you think?
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Here's the facts: all games from slots to VP to keno to table games should have the displayed True Odds on all its game tables, easily accessible to those that want to know. They should also have to disclose the deposit and drop rates on both comps in, money in, and profit out of a machine.
I'd also prefer if every casino was forced to have at least 1 bank of 100.1%+ VP, even if they keep it to below $10 a hand for those of us that want the long and slow grind. This is a very long shot idea though. The above 'display the odds' idea I feel is more than reasonable.
