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April 2nd, 2021 at 1:45:04 AM permalink
My brother went to the hospital for work on his knees, and they discovered he has stage 2 prostate cancer. This subject should concern every man on this forum. Men have a 13% chance of eventually getting prostate cancer. The good news is, stage 2 survival rate if you get treated is almost 100% in the first 5 years. In the second five years it's 98%. In the third 5 years I think it's 95%. SooPoo can correct me if I'm wrong. I remember Don Imus was diagnosed with Stage 2 in 2009 and didn't even get medical treatment and he lived 10 years and died of something else entirely. So even though it's disturbing that my brother has it, it's not a death sentence. But what's more disturbing, is because I'm his brother, it means I'm now twice as likely to develop prostate cancer. Always something to look forward to in life..
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April 2nd, 2021 at 3:43:26 AM permalink
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So even though it's disturbing that my brother has it, it's not a death sentence. But what's more disturbing, is because I'm his brother, it means I'm now twice as likely to develop prostate cancer. Always something to look forward to in life..

I thought the percentage of older men affected was far higher, with most never needing or appropriate for treatment, but I'll bow to your research.
Had a friend of the family die of it in his 70s. It was a dreadful, undignified and drawn out way to go, what with double incontinence and other nasties brought on by the treatment. Surgery upon surgery. Chemo upon chemo.

So guys. Get tested. It can be anything from a trivial q-tip home sample kit to a full strength camera on a snake shoved up your a$$. Whatever it takes, get the test when you reach 'a certain age'

https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/prostate/basic_info/risk_factors.htm
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April 2nd, 2021 at 4:22:45 AM permalink
If you live long enough you will most likely get prostate cancer. (Males!). There are a variety of treatment options, all improved substantially over the past decade or two. If you get your initial diagnosis when ‘elderly’, you most likely will be told the treatment is worse than the disease. It is a VERY slow growing form of cancer.
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April 2nd, 2021 at 4:31:45 AM permalink
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If you live long enough you will most likely get prostate cancer. (Males!). There are a variety of treatment options, all improved substantially over the past decade or two. If you get your initial diagnosis when ‘elderly’, you most likely will be told the treatment is worse than the disease. It is a VERY slow growing form of cancer.

Indeed. Surgery for it is very invasive and destructive. It's a cancer that we can be told to just live with and ignore. But still worth getting tested from age of about 50.
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April 2nd, 2021 at 4:45:42 AM permalink
My father had it and beat it. Went onto die over a decade later of other reasons.

Hope your brother beats it too, EB.
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April 2nd, 2021 at 6:29:42 AM permalink
As uncomfortable and humiliating as it is, "the finger" is a vital part of an annual physical. As you age, a PSA test should also be standard. If your doctor doesn't do it, ask for it. Best wishes to EB's brother.
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April 2nd, 2021 at 7:05:33 AM permalink
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As uncomfortable and humiliating as it is, "the finger" is a vital part of an annual physical. As you age, a PSA test should also be standard. If your doctor doesn't do it, ask for it. Best wishes to EB's brother.

Just a curious Brit....
How does the 'Annual physical' thing work in the US? Do pretty much all American adults get routinely called in each year? Is that something that gets charged to your insurance? And what of those without medical insurance?
We don't tend to have annual checkups in the UK. For prostate screening, it's generally an invitation to a colonoscopy at 50 and a DIY poo test every 5 years. For other conditions, we get invited for a more general screening every 5 years, or on request.
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If you're in the 40 to 74 age group without a pre-existing condition, you should receive a letter from your GP surgery or local council inviting you for a free NHS Health Check every 5 years. You can also call your GP surgery to book a Health Check.

For women, cervical screening and breast screening is by regular invitation every 3 to 5 years depending on age. Annual tests for those at risk at the GP's (General Practitioner = family doctor) discretion.
For things like flu vaccine, free annually for the over 60s or about $15 from a pharmacy for the younger.
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April 2nd, 2021 at 7:11:44 AM permalink
Correction... colonoscopy is for colon cancer screening, not prostate cancer screening. ‘The finger’ checks the prostate, as does a blood test (PSA). ‘Poo test’ tends to be checking for blood, which is also indicative of possible colon cancer. Can even be esophageal or stomach cancer. The majority of US insurance policies cover an annual physical. Sometimes with small copay. I pay $10 virtually every time I see any doctor. If you do not have insurance there are many free clinics that offer cost free cancer screenings.
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April 2nd, 2021 at 7:22:22 AM permalink
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Just a curious Brit....
How does the 'Annual physical' thing work in the US? Do pretty much all American adults get routinely called in each year? Is that something that gets charged to your insurance? And what of those without medical insurance?
We don't tend to have annual checkups in the UK. For prostate screening, it's generally an invitation to a colonoscopy at 50 and a DIY poo test every 5 years. For other conditions, we get invited for a more general screening every 5 years, or on request.
For women, cervical screening and breast screening is by regular invitation every 3 to 5 years depending on age. Annual tests for those at risk at the GP's (General Practitioner = family doctor) discretion.
For things like flu vaccine, free annually for the over 60s or about $15 from a pharmacy for the younger.



It is really up to the individual as to whether you have a physical every year. Individual responsibility. However, if I don't go see my doc at least once every six months, he'll stop refilling my blood pressure and cholesterol meds. So he sort of forces my hand, but not an issue for me, I go willingly, even though it's not the most pleasant of experiences.

If you have insurance, insurance will pay for one preventative visit a year for free (under ACA) however, if you even ask a single question about anything, it becomes a regular office visit with some sort of cost sharing depending on the plan you have.

If you don't have insurance, you have to pay for the whole thing out of pocket. These are the people who generally don't show up and then realize they're sick when it's too late.
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April 2nd, 2021 at 7:24:19 AM permalink
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Just a curious Brit....
How does the 'Annual physical' thing work in the US? Do pretty much all American adults get routinely called in each year? Is that something that gets charged to your insurance? And what of those without medical insurance?



If there is a standard, nobody told me. I have had only two full-blown physicals in my adult life. Reminder, I'm 55. I recently did a blood work up only, which came out pretty well. Medical insurance should cover that expense or at least most of a check-up. Sometimes there is a patient "co-pay."

As to the finger, a friend of mine who had a huge hang-up about that finally did the alternative blood test.
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