Precautions

What kind of precautions are you taking besides just washing your hands to help prevent Corona virus from infecting you? Today I rolled our shoes over and sprayed the bottoms of them with a bleach solution.

Any suggestions to keep the virus out of our houses?

Quote: petroglyph

What kind of precautions are you taking besides just washing your hands to help prevent Corona virus from infecting you? Today I rolled our shoes over and sprayed the bottoms of them with a bleach solution.

Any suggestions to keep the virus out of our houses?

The shoes angle is an excellent one. Think of all the crap on your shoes. And I have always worn my shoes into the house. I won't anymore, even when this is all over. Shoes are going to stay outside, AND get sprayed.

You might want to just get undressed, take a shower, and toss your clothes in the washer, every time you come home. Might as well. Can't hurt.

I'm not a vitamin person, but I went out and got some with immune boosters. I avoided high dosage ones, just got lower dosage ones. That and pledging to keep my exercise program regular and not skip. Which is also to benefit the immune system.

Quote: rxwine

I'm not a vitamin person, but I went out and got some with immune boosters. I avoided high dosage ones, just got lower dosage ones. That and pledging to keep my exercise program regular and not skip. Which is also to benefit the immune system.

Why do you think vitamin supplements will help with Corona or whatever else? How do you know it actually won't do more harm than good?

Vitamins helping with colds and whatnot is total nonsense.

The vitamin industry is such a big scam.

Quote: bobbartop

The shoes angle is an excellent one. Think of all the crap on your shoes. And I have always worn my shoes into the house. I won't anymore, even when this is all over. Shoes are going to stay outside, AND get sprayed.

You might want to just get undressed, take a shower, and toss your clothes in the washer, every time you come home. Might as well. Can't hurt.

Coronavirus comes from touching surfaces that infected people touched. Are there many places you step that people are touching the floor with their bare hands?

SURFACES: People do spit on sidewalks though.

Immune Systems: Careful. You want to avoid taking IRON. Viruses love iron, so you want to take ZINC.
VITAMINS C, D-3, A would be critical. For ANY pathogen, the mot important factor is host nutrition. Pathogens mutate and they become more virulent in a weakened host.

A wet but clean hand will transmit more pathogens than a dirty but dry hand.





































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Quote: darkoz

Coronavirus comes from touching surfaces that infected people touched. Are there many places you step that people are touching the floor with their bare hands?

That is not 100% accurate. You can not get corona but touching the virus. The virus must be introduced into your system by breathing it or getting it into your system by touching your eyes, nose, or mouth.

I think the lesson is to keep your feet out of your mouth.

Wash my hands regularly.

Avoid any in person contact.

Wash my clothes whenever I have to go out.

I am an introvert, and a germaphobe, so basically do what I normally do...

Stock handsanitizer and disifencting wipes and sprays in all vehicles and keep a bottle of hand sanitizer in your pocket or on your belt. (I have done this for years anyway).

I hate crowds, I hate people close to me, and I hate touching common surfaces, so I pretty much do all of the precautions already.


Your point about shoes is a good one. If possible you should take off shoes and clothes in the garage and spray them down before bringing them in to wash them.

Quote: FleaStiff

SURFACES: People do spit on sidewalks though.

Immune Systems: Careful. You want to avoid taking IRON. Viruses love iron, so you want to take ZINC.
VITAMINS C, D-3, A would be critical. For ANY pathogen, the mot important factor is host nutrition. Pathogens mutate and they become more virulent in a weakened host.

A wet but clean hand will transmit more pathogens than a dirty but dry hand.

I agree with this post, everything. I'd add vitamin K.

Shoes stay outside.

I am aware of people spitting on the ground mainly because, when I work out outside, I spit more than just about anyone.

When we pick up groceries, we wipe down those going into the freezer or fridge. Everything else gets put in a plastic tub in the garage, where it can sit for a week or whenever. We'll rub it down before we bring it into the house, but at least most of the viruses should be gone by that time.

Quote: AxelWolf

The vitamin industry is such a big scam.

It is if you have a well-balanced diet.

If you're forced to stay home for weeks or months at a time, like with what potentially could happen with coronavirus, and your diet starts turning to crap because you're running out of healthy food and/or the grocery stores start running short on healthy food, it probably wouldn't hurt to have some vitamins on hand just in case you have to live off of nothing but a bag of rice for a week or two.

We're all turning into Howard Hughes!

Here's my thoughts: I have been sticking to myself for the most part for a long time. On a daily basis, I had only my wife in close proximity for days, though I would go to the store once or twice a week. Frequently enough we attended a concert or whatever, and went out to eat once in a while, often with another couple. I went for long periods, years, without catching anything.

The last two things I caught were a cold and the flu. About two years ago I did a cruise, traveling on Amtrak to get there, and caught a nasty cold. This January I attended a meeting of a social club we belong to that gets people together to do this and that. It was right after all the grandkids came to visit all these people and I am quite convinced that is where I got the flu.

I have a theory that this C-19 is about as contagious as the cold. In my normal activities I haven't been catching the latter - going to the store [and taking no precautions about sanitizer on the cart till now] just doesnt seem to be how I get this stuff. I really think it's that extra exposure that does it - groups of people in an enclosed space. I'm not going to start sanitizing my shoes.

Quote: AxelWolf

Why do you think vitamin supplements will help with Corona or whatever else? How do you know it actually won't do more harm than good?

Vitamins helping with colds and whatnot is total nonsense.

The vitamin industry is such a big scam.

Ha ha. I am more skeptical than you. But I am only worried about high dosages doing me harm, which I am not taking. I am not worried if it does nothing, and I'm seriously not worried about low dosages.

Actually my regular physician already prescribes me extra b12 before all this.

Let's just say, I'm ticking all the easy boxes to avoid getting sick.

Staying home as directed. A few walks but I so few people out no big deal. Getting plenty of sleep to keep my strength up. I live alone so more danger of going stir crazy than catching it.

Doctors in NYC are treating virus patients with Vitamin C.

I think people need to do research themselves, but I do remember hypertension or high blood pressure to be bad, but the kind of medication you're on could be contributing to the disease being worse. Look it up if you're taking ACE inhibitors or blood pressure medicine, I don't feel like doing a google search for you right now.

I have an N95 mask that I started wearing in public.

Quote: TigerWu

It is if you have a well-balanced diet.

If you're forced to stay home for weeks or months at a time, like with what potentially could happen with coronavirus, and your diet starts turning to crap because you're running out of healthy food and/or the grocery stores start running short on healthy food, it probably wouldn't hurt to have some vitamins on hand just in case you have to live off of nothing but a bag of rice for a week or two.

The only thing you have to do is eat halfway normal, actually, you could probably just eat like crap and you'll get more than enough vitamins. Obviously, if your doctor tells you that you are deficient in a certain vitamin for whatever reason, that's a different situation.

Bold of you to assume I leave my house in the first place.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/26/coronavirus-can-survive-on-shoes-for-up-to-5-days-experts-warn/

Maybe fakenews, idk. I do think that germs on the floor stomped on could potentially re-aerosolize.

If dust bunny's can get airborne, why can't virus hitchhike on dust particles?

Quote: petroglyph

.. .. .. coronavirus-can-survive-on-shoes-for-up-to-5-days-experts-warn

I hereby resolve to wait at least six days before licking the soles of my shoes.

Quote: FleaStiff

I hereby resolve to wait at least six days before licking the soles of my shoes.

For those people afraid their shoes might come into contact with Coronavirus because they touch the ground

What happens if you drop your wallet or money on the floor. Will you refuse to pick it up?

Quote: darkoz

What happens if you drop your wallet or money on the floor. Will you refuse to pick it up?

What money do I have that I could drop? The cabbie who took me to the hospital cleaned me out of all my cash. I had ONE DOLLAR left and that is what the Pharmacy charged me to fill a departing prescription.

Any virus on a shoe sole would be weak and provide very little as to "viral load" All surfaces must be "at risk" to some degree, but life goes on somehow.

Vitamin c ?

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/

Quote: jjjoooggg

Vitamin c ?

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/

They use it comittently with whatever else they're doing, not just C.

Quote: onenickelmiracle

They use it comittently with whatever else they're doing, not just C.

Vitamin C is a good diuretic and will help avoid organ failure in extreme circumstances.

Quote: FleaStiff

Vitamin C is a good diuretic and will help avoid organ failure in extreme circumstances.

It is specifically noted to be greatly reduced in the patients needing hospitalization and this is the only reason they're trying it.

Quote: FleaStiff

I hereby resolve to wait at least six days before licking the soles of my shoes.

Idk if it's a thing or not, about the virus transferring from people stepping in it, and it sticking to shoes or not? Thought I'd put it up for others consideration. If it does get on shoes, and it does stay transmissable for a few hours or days, do you use your hands to put your shoes on? Then touch your face?

If it doesn't pass on that way, do we need to wipe our counters at home?

Here's a big picture idea for the future.

If your smart phone had a temp taker, every day you could take your temp (voluntary of course). It would ping anonymous data but geolocate and identify clusters of high temps. If you have clusters of high temps coming out of an area, you can potentially look to see if it's anything to take action on.

Btw, did anyone see the story of the guy who carried 40 cellphones in a little wagon and google identified it as a traffic jam and routed traffic around him. Somewhat like that idea, only useful, not a stunt

Might be a good trick for a chamber of commerce to employ to channel customers away from other towns.

If I had a disposable paper mask I had to reuse, (and I don't have any masks}, I would probably put it in the microwave with a cup with a little bit of water and run it for a minute.

Better than just reusing without doing anything. You can do this with any cloth that doesn't have metal, if you have some reason to. If for some reason you don't have time to wash it.

Not sure if you could or should microwave one of those n-95 masks. Never looked at one.

I have a germaphobe friend who says he microwaves used books to sanitize them.

Quote: petroglyph

What kind of precautions are you taking besides just washing your hands to help prevent Corona virus from infecting you? Today I rolled our shoes over and sprayed the bottoms of them with a bleach solution.

Any suggestions to keep the virus out of our houses?

As long as you take this for feel-good and nothing further. Self preservation ain't exactly my forte...

Tomorrow will be my 40th day of quarantine, a term I use loosely because I am an essential employee and also, apparently, live a life of quarantine as I find almost no measured difference in routine. That, of course (IMO) is the biggest step. It can't get in ya if you ain't there. That includes The Others. Don't be where they are, don't let them where you are.

Nearly anything that goes Out There goes through some sort of process upon returning. If it's non-essential, it sits outside. Packages, some groceries, there's very little you need, and even less that you need right now. I won't quote numbers I heard for Covid, but other variants of corona lasts up to 9 days, and I'm at that level of effort these days, like many here. So f#$% it. You can store the Cap'n Crunch next to the PB Blaster for a week because that's not gonna kill ya.

Has-to-go-in stuff gets ye olde wipe down. Milk jugs. Bread bags. Rub the brand name clean off. If the box is cardboard and can't, then it's not needed. I use straight alcohol.

Grocery is order and pick up. No going inside. No going in anywhere, unless you can be damn sure it's gonna be you and the shopkeep, and even then only if needed. Not "American" needed, not effing Maslow's needed, but food-water-shelter needed.

Get grimey when Out There. You sneeze, you cry, got eye boogers, crusty lip, you leave that s#$% there. That is Sink Work, no exceptions. And for the love of f#$%, keep alcohol on you at all times. It's midge and no-see-um season, and you're gonna take one to the eyeball. You're gonna need to get clean before you go digging for it.

Clothes gone Out There stay Out There. Strip in the garage, directly to the shower without touching a thing. If this is too much work, you're going out too gd much.

Consume nothing Out There. Not mints, not gum, not vegan Whoppers, no thing. You're not gonna desiccate in a day let alone 3 hours, leave the water at home. Fat bong rips in the man cave, sure. Cigs? Out of doors? Yer bleedin' mental.

Stop. Touching. Your face. Christ's sake. Mustache tickles? Shave it off. Bit your nails for 38yrs? Too gd bad. Shut it down!

The caveat, of course, is f#$% knows if any of this is actually working. Could just be luck of the draw that's kept me good for 40 days and nights. But I'm in the s#$%. Literally surrounded. Coworkers on quarantine, coworkers families on quarantine, indirectly contact about 1,700 Others a day and directly contact just a touch under 100. And I Ain't Dead Yet, #*%$#@!! If Red Devil means anything to you, you can understand the level of neurosis. But 40days later, we're ALL still breathing...

The longer this goes, the less afraid I am. This is usually a joke, when they say you either win or you don't. but you either die(usually, there can be lasting lung damage). or you don't. Anyone susceptible with any high odds of dying, they're the ones which should be hermits, The rest of us should just take our chances and get it over with, a year to wait for a vaccine which might not work is too long. Approved treatments(which are safe and very effective) are too far away.

Face, I am impressed. I totally expected the polar opposite from you. I thought you would be the rebel saying F this, I am going to live my way. I guess I really don't know much about you from 1000 posts.

Quote: rxwine

Not sure if you could or should microwave one of those n-95 masks. Never looked at one.

If you google it, some university did a study and you can safely sterilize an N95 mask in a 160F oven for 30 mins

I was going to say, I watched a doctor do his at 175°. Similar.

I have to suggest at least 165°, because that is the minimum temperature to kill bacteria in meat.

Quote: beachbumbabs

I was going to say, I watched a doctor do his at 175°. Similar.

I have to suggest at least 165°, because that is the minimum temperature to kill bacteria in meat.

That reminds me, too little heat can actually help grow bacteria. Anyway, I'm pretty sure I achieve nuke level when I do it. Not sure it helps viruses, but there's likely to be bacteria after wearing something so it's still important not to undercook.

Quote: DRich

Face, I am impressed. I totally expected the polar opposite from you. I thought you would be the rebel saying F this, I am going to live my way. I guess I really don't know much about you from 1000 posts.

"My way" is so little affected as to say it isn't at all. 40 days without a hug from my kid is painful, but put in perspective it doesn't even register, 'specially when I'm doing it to protect him. Add in a delayed gun purchase and wheeler trips now being tote-your-own instead of trailer and crew cab, and that's the sum total of how "my way" is affected. I'm hardly suffering. There's nearly zero difference in my day-to-day. 'Cept now I wash my hands. A lot.

That post was more for those with deep and legitimate concern. My attempt at comfort, I guess. And for those who likewise are in a "zero tolerance" situation, I thought it'd be helpful to see one who's in it and lasting. At least so far.



If it makes you feel better, if we put aside others' pain, I'm loving this more than even you. Everything's shut, there's no traffic, no phone calls, no visitors, there's a mf'in national mandate that you can't bother me. I'm positively giddy. My job's guaranteed so long as the country stands, I lost 18lbs and counting, my smoking is down from 40 a day to 2, and in possibly the greatest disaster the modern world has seen, I get to be in the middle of it. Helping people.

Should me and mine make it, it'll be a life highlight.

Quote: beachbumbabs

I was going to say, I watched a doctor do his at 175°. Similar.

I have to suggest at least 165°, because that is the minimum temperature to kill bacteria in meat.

why can't you just soak it in rubbing alcohol and let it air-dry? Better yet just soak it in some 151 wear it wet and get a buzz going at the same time. Wouldn't the alcohol kill any incoming germs if it were still wet? Perhaps you can't breathe if it's wet?

Quote: AxelWolf

why can't you just soak it in rubbing alcohol and let it air-dry? Better yet just soak it in some 151 wear it wet and get a buzz going at the same time. Wouldn't the alcohol kill any incoming germs if it were still wet? Perhaps you can't breathe if it's wet?

I was wondering if you are protected at all with a water barrier. Like breathing through a big bore water pipe. Bubbles coming up through water probably will still release some virus.

Quote: rxwine

I was wondering if you are protected at all with a water barrier. Like breathing through a big bore water pipe. Bubbles coming up through water probably will still release some virus.

Are you still trying to justify your bong? I get it, it is medicinal.