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October 13th, 2020 at 12:00:13 PM permalink
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One summer, while in college, I had a paid internship with Western Electric. They would hire a bunch of the execs kids to help out as summer replacements for vacationing staff.
The building I worked in had a small cafeteria and had recently shortened its hours, so after it closed it would leave pots of coffee out on an honor basis. My foreman, who had over thirty years in, refused to pay for coffee that he said would just get thrown out if he didn't drink it. Several times, our Supervisor and the building management spoke to us about the need to pay, and as I was one of only three summer replacements, I'm sure I was a top suspect.
Finally, after weeks of someone drinking the coffee, a notice went out that anyone caught not paying for coffee would be terminated.
A few days go by, and we are outside on one of our scheduled breaks when our supervisor and two building guards walk up and tell our foreman he is fired and he is escorted in to gather his belongings.
Supposedly, he lost his pension and was denied unemployment.



It sounds to me like he got what he deserved. Did you get a bonus for dropping the dime?
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October 13th, 2020 at 12:28:12 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

One summer, while in college, I had a paid internship with Western Electric. They would hire a bunch of the execs kids to help out as summer replacements for vacationing staff.
The building I worked in had a small cafeteria and had recently shortened its hours, so after it closed it would leave pots of coffee out on an honor basis. My foreman, who had over thirty years in, refused to pay for coffee that he said would just get thrown out if he didn't drink it. Several times, our Supervisor and the building management spoke to us about the need to pay, and as I was one of only three summer replacements, I'm sure I was a top suspect.
Finally, after weeks of someone drinking the coffee, a notice went out that anyone caught not paying for coffee would be terminated.
A few days go by, and we are outside on one of our scheduled breaks when our supervisor and two building guards walk up and tell our foreman he is fired and he is escorted in to gather his belongings.
Supposedly, he lost his pension and was denied unemployment.



It amazes me what people will lose their job for. I might have the record as I saw a guy get fired over $0.20! In 1989 or so. Just a grocery clerk but man, if you are going to steal steal big.
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October 13th, 2020 at 8:14:35 PM permalink
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It amazes me what people will lose their job for. I might have the record as I saw a guy get fired over $0.20! .



Employee stealing is huge. If their
hands touch money, they will find
a way to steal it. Uniforms dealers
wear have no cuffs or collars
because that's where they used
to stuff money in the old days.
No pockets either.
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AZDuffman
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October 14th, 2020 at 2:54:13 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Employee stealing is huge. If their
hands touch money, they will find
a way to steal it. Uniforms dealers
wear have no cuffs or collars
because that's where they used
to stuff money in the old days.
No pockets either.



Always has been. I think back to how much I could have made underringing items if I had a partner. Ring out a steak for half a buck. Cigarettes they would eventually catch on to but who knows. Working nights I was alone in front and they gave me the override key. Even with them tracking every sale there was no balance to it all. But I was honest.
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October 14th, 2020 at 6:21:32 AM permalink
I have worked in a grocery store most of my adult life. Any wrong doing perpetrated by anyone will eventually be noticed if repeated enough times. There have been many instances I have caught on to either suspected employee or customer theft. I will usually monitor what is goin on until I am sure I know what or how it is being done. I would then pass my finding onto loss prevention. Those guys are usually overwhelmed and appreciate my "hot leads" Employee dishonesty is almost always reacted to quicker then customer theft. I guess the numbers say we lose more money to employee theft than customers.

At my company, we inventory cigarettes weekly. When It became apparent we had a theft problem I increased spot checks on particular items until I narrowed down to a small enough time frame for loss prevention to get video evidence. It took a while but we never had that problem since. It got to a point I was spending most of my free time checking. I still cant believe the person who was doing it kept on stealing even though they would see me multiple times checking counts. I never said what I was doing but still...geez.
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October 14th, 2020 at 8:47:13 AM permalink
Quote: cmlotito

I have worked in a grocery store most of my adult life. Any wrong doing perpetrated by anyone will eventually be noticed if repeated enough times. There have been many instances I have caught on to either suspected employee or customer theft. I will usually monitor what is goin on until I am sure I know what or how it is being done. I would then pass my finding onto loss prevention. Those guys are usually overwhelmed and appreciate my "hot leads" Employee dishonesty is almost always reacted to quicker then customer theft. I guess the numbers say we lose more money to employee theft than customers.

At my company, we inventory cigarettes weekly. When It became apparent we had a theft problem I increased spot checks on particular items until I narrowed down to a small enough time frame for loss prevention to get video evidence. It took a while but we never had that problem since. It got to a point I was spending most of my free time checking. I still cant believe the person who was doing it kept on stealing even though they would see me multiple times checking counts. I never said what I was doing but still...geez.



Cigarettes were and always will be a hot item to boost. They always indicated to us that employee theft was the bigger thing. The hard thing to catch is bleeding. Cigarettes are hard because they watch like hawks. Instead think about razor blades. Say I cut a UPC off a can of beans and put it on the razor blades then go to the person I know to check out. Mixed in with a few other items and make sure nobody is bagging the items and it is fairly easy thing.

The thing we had at the time was checks. They gave a card for one store but the clerk could write four more stores in on it for a total of 5. If you had an inside man who made a card or three you could clean up. Go to each of 4 stores once in early AM once in evening to avoid same people on duty. Load up with cigarettes, razor blades, meat. And best was you could write for $20 over (this was about 1989, that is worth $50 today.) Do it on a holiday weekend. Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon. That is $100 in over cash per cycle, two cycles a day for $200 times 4 days = $800 in cash plus all the swag you could use or sell to friends. By the time they find out you are long gone.

Of course you would need someone inside the bank to avoid getting arrested for hot checks. But they were so open I am amazed they never got hit.
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October 14th, 2020 at 9:05:42 AM permalink
Traveling across the country
Surprised at the different quality of grocery stores
Travelling across the country in my RV and I like to cook
Some areas just dont have good grocery stores (bakery dept, meat dept, really fresh vegatables, clean)
I guess Publix grocery store in FL spoiled me
I was in Tulsa several weeks ago. So disappointed. Had to go to one of those Walmart grocery stores I dont like
In Santa Fe and they have some good store with a really common name, Smith
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October 14th, 2020 at 9:22:28 AM permalink
Smiths are okay, but if you get to an area with Fry's in them, try one out. They aren't like Wegmanns or Publix but they are the best in the west that I've found, not counting Trader Joes which isn't really a supermarket. I have one Safeway, about fifteen miles from me, otherwise it is Dollar General and Family Dollar. I make the 80 mile round trip into Sierra Vista about once a month and try to stop by Fry's if I'm headed directly home.
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October 14th, 2020 at 9:24:44 AM permalink
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Smiths are okay, but if you get to an area with Fry's in them, try one out. They aren't like Wegmanns or Publix but they are the best in the west that I've found, not counting Trader Joes which isn't really a supermarket. I have one Safeway, about fifteen miles from me, otherwise it is Dollar General and Family Dollar. I make the 80 mile round trip into Sierra Vista about once a month and try to stop by Fry's if I'm headed directly home.



Fry's is Kroger. I went from Wegman's to Frys was like going back 20 years.
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October 14th, 2020 at 9:48:31 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Traveling across the country
Surprised at the different quality of grocery stores
Travelling across the country in my RV and I like to cook
Some areas just dont have good grocery stores (bakery dept, meat dept, really fresh vegatables, clean)
I guess Publix grocery store in FL spoiled me
I was in Tulsa several weeks ago. So disappointed. Had to go to one of those Walmart grocery stores I dont like
In Santa Fe and they have some good store with a really common name, Smith



Smith's are popular in Las Vegas but they really seem to vary from one store to the next. The Smith's by my house is very nice and I would say it is similar to a Publix. The Smith's about 10 minutes from me is very pedestrian (I am guessing that is the one that Bill went to on Sunset).
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