michael99000
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February 5th, 2020 at 1:36:16 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

YES, It SHOULD favor people that EARN MORE TICKETS. Please re-read what I said. "Favor certain players WHO THEY WANT TO WIN. I.E. Some high roller/big loser who earned very few tickets.

see BTLWI's post above. I never met or talked to him regarding any of this type of stuff. It's kind of creepy that he came up with the same thing very close to what I have been thinking has been going on for a long time.

Often times the rules are laid out, but I have yet to see them claim the drawings will favor certain groups/people regardless of the number of entries one has.



So you feel that peoples chances of winning should be based simply on their level and volume of play regardless of winning/ losing .. but you think the casinos just favor those who lose?
Vegasrider
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February 5th, 2020 at 1:43:16 PM permalink
Never liked the computerized drawings.i prefer the traditional drop your tixets in the drum. As members have mentioned, the computer program can be programed to do anything. On the other hand, traditional tix can be transferred over to other players. I wish a casino had the capability to print out tixets in your name and then you place them in the drum.

The most recent drawings ive participated in , the higher tiered members accumulated 3 X more than the lower tiered members. And also won 3X the prize amount, meaning the dollar amount was tripled what ever they won.
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February 5th, 2020 at 2:00:41 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Never liked the computerized drawings.i prefer the traditional drop your tixets in the drum. As members have mentioned, the computer program can be programed to do anything. On the other hand, traditional tix can be transferred over to other players. I wish a casino had the capability to print out tixets in your name and then you place them in the drum.

The most recent drawings ive participated in , the higher tiered members accumulated 3 X more than the lower tiered members. And also won 3X the prize amount, meaning the dollar amount was tripled what ever they won.



As one who sets up many casino drawings, printing tickets is very expensive and time consuming. It also causes a lot of consumer bottle necks because people don't want to print their tickets until right before the drawing. We have had lines that were hours long for people to print and get their tickets. They may still be waiting in line at the time of the drawing and not have any tickets actually printed and put in the drum.

As a patron all I want to know is how many tickets that I have in the drawing and how many total tickets are in the drawing.
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Vegasrider
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February 5th, 2020 at 2:11:13 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

As one who sets up many casino drawings, printing tickets is very expensive and time consuming. It also causes a lot of consumer bottle necks because people don't want to print their tickets until right before the drawing. We have had lines that were hours long for people to print and get their tickets. They may still be waiting in line at the time of the drawing and not have any tickets actually printed and put in the drum.

As a patron all I want to know is how many tickets that I have in the drawing and how many total tickets are in the drawing.



Since when does a casino care about cost, factor it into the promotion or marketing cost. You can always delay or have a period to redeem your tixets to eliminate the lines. Having a visual of the number of tix is somewhat helpful on determining how many tix are live.

For computerized drawings. Wonder if anyone has the right to request how many tix were in the drum?
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February 5th, 2020 at 2:37:56 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Since when does a casino care about cost, factor it into the promotion or marketing cost. You can always delay or have a period to redeem your tixets to eliminate the lines. Having a visual of the number of tix is somewhat helpful on determining how many tix are live.

For computerized drawings. Wonder if anyone has the right to request how many tix were in the drum?



Casinos do care about financial cost but more important is the cost of people standing in lines and not playing the games. I have had casinos tell me both how many tickets I was issued and how many are in the drum for electronic drawings.
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Vegasrider
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February 5th, 2020 at 3:25:32 PM permalink
Kind of strange, the casino I regularly play at all their promos and drawings are for machine play. There has been zero promos for table games, I find that odd. Yes, machines probably generate most of the revenue but you would think they would have something for the pit players.
Mission146
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February 5th, 2020 at 3:35:04 PM permalink
Not even any hot seats or anything?
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February 5th, 2020 at 6:31:22 PM permalink
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Not even any hot seats or anything?



Funny, they do have hot seat promos but only for the machines. They even have player rewards points multiplier days, 2x, 3x, etc, once again only for playing the machines. At least they have 9/6 VP
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February 5th, 2020 at 8:47:38 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Funny, they do have hot seat promos but only for the machines. They even have player rewards points multiplier days, 2x, 3x, etc, once again only for playing the machines. At least they have 9/6 VP



Many places have no interest in rewarding table games players. Most table games departments bring in 15% or less of revenue.

Some smaller casinos (like one I worked at), don't have the software to include table games players in random or hot seat drawings. If they are tracking play with paper, rather than with a screen at the table, they almost positively don't have the capability.


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Mission146
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February 6th, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM permalink
Why not just use a roll of raffle tickets and a drawing bin for a hot seat? Not even necessarily a bin, a player can pull one of the raffle tickets from a hat, or something.
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