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JohnnyQ
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October 31st, 2021 at 1:20:33 PM permalink
How are these comments making this site BETTER ? Stop. Think. Proceed.
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billryan
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October 31st, 2021 at 1:36:04 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

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6-5 BJ is greed. Nothing else. Casinos saw that sheeple accepted it and they simply expanded it.
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6:5 BJ is a godsend compared to triple zero roulette.
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It's better than a kick in the nuts, so there is that.
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MichaelBluejay
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October 31st, 2021 at 2:38:32 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

I suppose it could be a coincidence that something you edited in 2005 might be the first thing a google search turns up.
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Fuck you not only for insulting me with a false accusation, but also for repeating it.

Like I said, you fucking idiot, I did not Google for the answer! Or maybe you realize that I didn't and you're just trolling/provoking me, but in that case, fuck you either way.

Anyway, congratulations, because the mods decided that you can insult me by making false accusations without consequences. It's one of the reasons this place is a cesspool. They've decided that you provide more value here by insulting and provoking me than I do, because I'm taking a leave of absence from this forum again, for the usual reason (insults against me without consequences).

Not sure whether I'll return in the future, but of course I'm blocking you now so I won't see your messages if I do come back.
JohnnyQ
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October 31st, 2021 at 3:11:43 PM permalink
MBJ:

You are an asset and a contributor ON TOPIC to the benefit of this site.

I hope you reconsider. But I understand if you reconsider and still decide to take a "leave of absence".

But hey, why do you let someone get you fired up like that ?
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JohnnyQ
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October 31st, 2021 at 3:11:47 PM permalink
oops duplicate post
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Dieter
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October 31st, 2021 at 3:13:08 PM permalink
MichaelBluejay, Profanity, Insult, 7 days.
Billryan, bullying, 7 days, subject to review.
May the cards fall in your favor.
OnceDear
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October 31st, 2021 at 3:56:10 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay. Bolding mine

Anyway, congratulations, because the mods decided that you can insult me by making false accusations without consequences. It's one of the reasons this place is a cesspool. They've decided that you provide more value here by insulting and provoking me than I do, because I'm taking a leave of absence from this forum again, for the usual reason (insults against me without consequences).

Not sure whether I'll return in the future, but of course I'm blocking you now so I won't see your messages if I do come back.
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Michael, Bill,

FYI, the moderators discussed the early allegation of 'Personal insult'.
I think it's fair to say that were unanimously of the opinion that while Bill had been quite disrespectful in calling MBJ's 'authority' into question, that Bill had been mostly attacking the content of MBJ's posts and that that did not reach the level of an actionable Personal insult.
That was BEFORE Bill made a few follow up posts doubling down, which brought Bill close to 'trolling territory'
So, Bill was on the cusp of a suspension when MBJ released his FBomb.

Oh well, Maybe MBJ should have taken his own advice sooner and blocked Bill.

I support Dieter's 7 Day suspension of each party. I hope they return next week with the resolve to just avoid each-other. Their choice!
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MichaelBluejay
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June 17th, 2022 at 12:40:37 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

FYI, the moderators discussed the early allegation of 'Personal insult'.
I think it's fair to say that were unanimously of the opinion that while Bill had been quite disrespectful in calling MBJ's 'authority' into question, that Bill had been mostly attacking the content of MBJ's posts and that that did not reach the level of an actionable Personal insult.

I realize that I never addressed this so doing so now:

Good job on missing the point. My complaint had NOTHING to do with billryan questioning my "authority" and EVERYTHING to do with what I actually said it had to do with: making a false accusation against me. Insisting that someone did something cheap that they didn't actually do is an insult. At least it is on this planet. But apparently not on Wizard of Vegas.

The mods can't protect members against insults if they can't even recognize insults. Even when what's insulting is spelled out to them.

The Wizard, supposedly my friend for many years, has also almost never stood up for me when someone's trashing me on his own forum, instead typically making some excuse as to why he can't. In his message to me about the above issue, he was unsurprisingly silent about whether he agreed that a false accusation is an insult. As for the rest of his message, I can't quote an email message here, but suffice it to say that it's pretty much at odds with what he's said on the forum publicly.

Here's one thread where I was repeatedly called a scammer (supposedly because I was a degenerate gambler trying to hustle to cover gambling debts) which the mods amazingly didn't think was an insult. The Wizard was typically absent. (He said he didn't see it, which if true is bad enough: he had such a lack of interest in my thread that he didn't even click on it. It's par for the course: If I post a reference to an article he'll typically comment or ask questions about the topic which demonstrate that he didn't even bother to read the article, since what he asks about is addressed explicitly in it. He has no interest in my work.)

They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. I must be insane for continuing to return. The constant insults are annoying, but the insult to injury is knowing that the Wizard nearly never has my back.

For those who'd suggest that I take my concerns with the Wizard up with the Wizard, believe me, I've tried...and failed. And not just about this. It seems the defining aspect of our relationship of over 20 years is that he doesn't listen to me.
lilredrooster
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June 17th, 2022 at 2:43:37 AM permalink
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Mr. Bluejay:



I read the thread you linked in blue where you were called a scammer and I agree that you were insulted

but I must say that I'm really surprised at your offer to invest in your mortgage debt

it just seems very inappropriate for a gambling forum where a great many people don't even use their real names

and also, you must consider that a great many unverified and questionable claims are made on gambling forums

in the above sentence I was not referring to your claims - just claims in general




having said that, everybody has a right to make a mistake, which I believe that thread was, without being called a scammer


I personally believe the Mods and anybody else involved made a mistake - they should have just deleted the thread and informed you via PM of the reasons



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JohnnyQ
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June 17th, 2022 at 7:02:39 PM permalink
MBJ:

So, welcome back to the forum ( ? ).

I am sorry it is under these circumstances.

I do think you add value, insight, and entertainment when you are here.

I also wonder if the WIZ is trying to exercise restraint because of your long personal/business relationship with him.
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