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MichaelBluejay
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July 10th, 2021 at 9:50:33 PM permalink
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"All residential passes are valid on Strip & Downtown Express and Deuce on the Strip with a local I.D."

Okay, now all we need to know is whether the drivers actually card you. Anyone?
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July 11th, 2021 at 5:19:45 AM permalink
(1) Should Tuscany (with a hotel, 50k sf gaming space, but no table games) be listed as a casino or not? Why or why not?

YES, Definitely yes. For some people, it might just be what they are looking for, IE, great pools, big rooms, far enough off the Strip to Avoid the Porn Slappers and other assorted "ner-do-wells". And your website can show them as an option that those people might not have been aware of. We used to stay there when our kids were still kids and when their prices were reasonable.

(2) Should Casino Royale (with a hotel but no table games) be listed as a casino or not? Why or why not?

YES, also Definitely yes. It is obviously a small casino, but so what ? It is right on the Strip, the paytables are pretty good, and to their credit they still do the $ 20 loss rebate, "as advertised with no strings attached". Just play it through once. Also, a lot of tourists don't even play table games, right ? I would guess a majority do NOT.

(3) Should Slots-A-Fun (with no hotel or table games) be listed as a casino or not? Why or why not?

YES - I would say YES because MOST people would consider it to be a casino. And EASY VEGAS is supposed to help people, right ?

(4) Should OYO (0.3 miles from the Strip) be listed as a "Strip" casino?

YES. I think I have walked about 1/4 mile getting from registration to my room in some hotels ( the Tropicana comes to mind ) ! If you want to put an asterisk by it, that's OK too of course.

I do object to some of the time-share places several miles south of Mandalay Bay calling themselves "STRIP" properties, that is just plain mis-leading.
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July 11th, 2021 at 5:46:16 AM permalink
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So, the poll questions are:

(1) Should Tuscany (with a hotel, 50k sf gaming space, but no table games) be listed as a casino or not? Why or why not?
(2) Should Casino Royale (with a hotel but no table games) be listed as a casino or not? Why or why not?
(3) Should Slots-A-Fun (with no hotel or table games) be listed as a casino or not? Why or why not?
(4) Should OYO (0.3 miles from the Strip) be listed as a "Strip" casino?



(1) Iím a bit pedantic about this and Iíd consider any property with an active gambling license to be a casino. Yes, that would include things like bar with VP and apparently some grocery stores have slots in Nevada.

(2) Yes. Has a gambling license.

(3) Yes. Has a gambling license.

For 1-3, my preferred approach is to have a filter for ďhas table gamesĒ. I also donít think that by defining casino broadly youíre obligating yourself to write about every tiny 2 slot machine bar in Nevada.

(4) Iíd say no. For me this is more about how I think of Vegas and it feels like a meaningful detour from the strip to get there. And it doesnít have an address on the boulevard. I think of it like Ellis Island. Close but not on the strip. I suspect itís probably even a bit farther from MGM Grand than Ellis Island is from Ballys.
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July 11th, 2021 at 6:28:22 AM permalink
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(4) Iíd say no. For me this is more about how I think of Vegas and it feels like a meaningful detour from the strip to get there. And it doesnít have an address on the boulevard. I think of it like Ellis Island. Close but not on the strip. I suspect itís probably even a bit farther from MGM Grand than Ellis Island is from Ballys.

Hey Tinman:

I've walked from Bally's Sports book side entrance to Ellis Island many times ( an easy walk unless the temps are too far over 100 deg ), and I think it is a bit FURTHER than MGM to *OYO.

* Depending of course, on which PART of MGM you start at to get to OYO ( Hooters ).

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July 11th, 2021 at 7:20:12 AM permalink
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Hey Tinman:

I've walked from Bally's Sports book side entrance to Ellis Island many times ( an easy walk unless the temps are too far over 100 deg ), and I think it is a bit FURTHER than MGM to *OYO.

* Depending of course, on which PART of MGM you start at to get to OYO ( Hooters ).



That is an interesting point I hadnít considered. When I walk Ballys to Ellis, I go through those doors next to the food court (seems like the same ones you mentioned). Thatís the closest possible spot. When Iíve been to Hooters/Oyo, itís been walking from outside MGM Grand on the strip itself rather than a shorter route through the casino. I donít like MGM Grand so I typically donít walk through it but I can certainly see the casino route being shorter
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July 11th, 2021 at 7:29:25 AM permalink
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I donít like MGM Grand so I typically donít walk through it but I can certainly see the casino route being shorter

AND air conditioned ! We went to MGM once this trip for their lunch buffet, and also another time because we bought monorail passes and our friends wanted to go to NYNY.
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July 11th, 2021 at 8:42:12 AM permalink
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I think I have walked about 1/4 mile getting from registration to my room in some hotels



This is a fine standard to apply to marginal cases.
Shorter walk from a "Yes, definitely" checkin desk to another property than to your room on that property, uhh... yeah.
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July 11th, 2021 at 8:46:17 AM permalink
OYO is much closer to the strip than Top Golf, which describes itself as being at MGM on the strip even though it has a Koval Lane address.
It's all semantics but I'd say anything west of Koval has a claim to being on the strip.
About ten years ago, the El Cortez bought a parking lot that touched Las Vegas Blvd. and tried to claim it was now a Strip property. I don't think it still makes that claim.
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July 11th, 2021 at 12:26:53 PM permalink
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It's all semantics but I'd say anything west of Koval has a claim to being on the strip.

Hey c'mon now, Bluejay has to be pulling his hair out by now !

How about NORTH of the Las Vegas Sign and up to the Strat, but you have to be within eyesight of the the actual Strip sidewalk and within a 5 minute walk East/West walk ? ? ?

We had a looooong walk down a corridor to our room at Bellagio once, it reminded me of the opening credits to GET SMART.
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July 11th, 2021 at 2:37:31 PM permalink
East of the 15 and west of Koval works for me.
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