Celebrity Deaths
Quote: billryanQuote: NathanQuote: billryanMcLain was a very talented pitcher but his antics drove him out of baseball. He was the starting pitcher for the AL in the All-Star game in 1966, 1968, and 1969 but got involved with bookies and was suspended indefinitely in 1971 and out of baseball not long after. He spent time in prison for an assortment of financial crimes. He was sentenced to 23 years for extortion, loansharking and other crimes but got out in less than three years.
He was also a bit of a flake, always threatening to quit baseball to pursue a musical career.
His pursuit of thirty wins in the summer of 68 was a nice distraction from RFK's assassination, the events in Chicago, and the growing peace movement that was dividing my family and the nation.
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Bill Ryan, you're old enough to VIVIDLY remember 1968? 😳 My Mother was a BABY in 1968 and she's turning 59 this year, so you're probably in your 70's or 80's. 🤔💡
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I was nine years old in the summer of 1968, going into fifth grade. It was the first year I followed baseball.
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Hmm, when I wrote my quote I pictured you being in your 20's or 30's since you VIVIDLY remember 1968. 💡 You were 9 in the summer of 1968 so you're actually 66. 💡😀
Quote: NathanQuote: billryanMcLain was a very talented pitcher but his antics drove him out of baseball. He was the starting pitcher for the AL in the All-Star game in 1966, 1968, and 1969 but got involved with bookies and was suspended indefinitely in 1971 and out of baseball not long after. He spent time in prison for an assortment of financial crimes. He was sentenced to 23 years for extortion, loansharking and other crimes but got out in less than three years.
He was also a bit of a flake, always threatening to quit baseball to pursue a musical career.
His pursuit of thirty wins in the summer of 68 was a nice distraction from RFK's assassination, the events in Chicago, and the growing peace movement that was dividing my family and the nation.
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Bill Ryan, you're old enough to VIVIDLY remember 1968? 😳 My Mother was a BABY in 1968 and she's turning 59 this year, so you're probably in your 70's or 80's. 🤔💡
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I would guess half of the members here are older than your mother.
Quote: DRichQuote: NathanQuote: billryanMcLain was a very talented pitcher but his antics drove him out of baseball. He was the starting pitcher for the AL in the All-Star game in 1966, 1968, and 1969 but got involved with bookies and was suspended indefinitely in 1971 and out of baseball not long after. He spent time in prison for an assortment of financial crimes. He was sentenced to 23 years for extortion, loansharking and other crimes but got out in less than three years.
He was also a bit of a flake, always threatening to quit baseball to pursue a musical career.
His pursuit of thirty wins in the summer of 68 was a nice distraction from RFK's assassination, the events in Chicago, and the growing peace movement that was dividing my family and the nation.
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Bill Ryan, you're old enough to VIVIDLY remember 1968? 😳 My Mother was a BABY in 1968 and she's turning 59 this year, so you're probably in your 70's or 80's. 🤔💡
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I would guess half of the members here are older than your mother.
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I guess I am the other half. Born in the latter half of 1968. I'm two years younger than her mother.
Quote: darkozQuote: DRichQuote: NathanQuote: billryanMcLain was a very talented pitcher but his antics drove him out of baseball. He was the starting pitcher for the AL in the All-Star game in 1966, 1968, and 1969 but got involved with bookies and was suspended indefinitely in 1971 and out of baseball not long after. He spent time in prison for an assortment of financial crimes. He was sentenced to 23 years for extortion, loansharking and other crimes but got out in less than three years.
He was also a bit of a flake, always threatening to quit baseball to pursue a musical career.
His pursuit of thirty wins in the summer of 68 was a nice distraction from RFK's assassination, the events in Chicago, and the growing peace movement that was dividing my family and the nation.
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Bill Ryan, you're old enough to VIVIDLY remember 1968? 😳 My Mother was a BABY in 1968 and she's turning 59 this year, so you're probably in your 70's or 80's. 🤔💡
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I would guess half of the members here are older than your mother.
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I guess I am the other half. Born in the latter half of 1968. I'm two years younger than her mother.
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I didn't specify exactly how old my Mother is. She was born in 1967 and in 1968 she was still a baby. I consider a one year old to still be a baby. 😀
Quote: NathanQuote: darkozQuote: DRichQuote: NathanQuote: billryanMcLain was a very talented pitcher but his antics drove him out of baseball. He was the starting pitcher for the AL in the All-Star game in 1966, 1968, and 1969 but got involved with bookies and was suspended indefinitely in 1971 and out of baseball not long after. He spent time in prison for an assortment of financial crimes. He was sentenced to 23 years for extortion, loansharking and other crimes but got out in less than three years.
He was also a bit of a flake, always threatening to quit baseball to pursue a musical career.
His pursuit of thirty wins in the summer of 68 was a nice distraction from RFK's assassination, the events in Chicago, and the growing peace movement that was dividing my family and the nation.
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Bill Ryan, you're old enough to VIVIDLY remember 1968? 😳 My Mother was a BABY in 1968 and she's turning 59 this year, so you're probably in your 70's or 80's. 🤔💡
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I would guess half of the members here are older than your mother.
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I guess I am the other half. Born in the latter half of 1968. I'm two years younger than her mother.
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I didn't specify exactly how old my Mother is. She was born in 1967 and in 1968 she was still a baby. I consider a one year old to still be a baby. 😀
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You did specify. You said she was 59 years old. I'm 57.
Her birthday, I take it is in January or February?
Quote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: darkozQuote: DRichQuote: NathanQuote: billryanMcLain was a very talented pitcher but his antics drove him out of baseball. He was the starting pitcher for the AL in the All-Star game in 1966, 1968, and 1969 but got involved with bookies and was suspended indefinitely in 1971 and out of baseball not long after. He spent time in prison for an assortment of financial crimes. He was sentenced to 23 years for extortion, loansharking and other crimes but got out in less than three years.
He was also a bit of a flake, always threatening to quit baseball to pursue a musical career.
His pursuit of thirty wins in the summer of 68 was a nice distraction from RFK's assassination, the events in Chicago, and the growing peace movement that was dividing my family and the nation.
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Bill Ryan, you're old enough to VIVIDLY remember 1968? 😳 My Mother was a BABY in 1968 and she's turning 59 this year, so you're probably in your 70's or 80's. 🤔💡
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I would guess half of the members here are older than your mother.
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I guess I am the other half. Born in the latter half of 1968. I'm two years younger than her mother.
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I didn't specify exactly how old my Mother is. She was born in 1967 and in 1968 she was still a baby. I consider a one year old to still be a baby. 😀
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You did specify. You said she was 59 years old. I'm 57.
Her birthday, I take it is in January or February?
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Hmm. I reread my post and I said she's turning 59 this year. As of right now, she's 58. 😀
Quote: NathanQuote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: darkozQuote: DRichQuote: NathanQuote: billryanMcLain was a very talented pitcher but his antics drove him out of baseball. He was the starting pitcher for the AL in the All-Star game in 1966, 1968, and 1969 but got involved with bookies and was suspended indefinitely in 1971 and out of baseball not long after. He spent time in prison for an assortment of financial crimes. He was sentenced to 23 years for extortion, loansharking and other crimes but got out in less than three years.
He was also a bit of a flake, always threatening to quit baseball to pursue a musical career.
His pursuit of thirty wins in the summer of 68 was a nice distraction from RFK's assassination, the events in Chicago, and the growing peace movement that was dividing my family and the nation.
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Bill Ryan, you're old enough to VIVIDLY remember 1968? 😳 My Mother was a BABY in 1968 and she's turning 59 this year, so you're probably in your 70's or 80's. 🤔💡
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I would guess half of the members here are older than your mother.
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I guess I am the other half. Born in the latter half of 1968. I'm two years younger than her mother.
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I didn't specify exactly how old my Mother is. She was born in 1967 and in 1968 she was still a baby. I consider a one year old to still be a baby. 😀
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You did specify. You said she was 59 years old. I'm 57.
Her birthday, I take it is in January or February?
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Hmm. I reread my post and I said she's turning 59 this year. As of right now, she's 58. 😀
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My apology. You did say she is turning 59.
Quote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: darkozQuote: DRichQuote: NathanQuote: billryanMcLain was a very talented pitcher but his antics drove him out of baseball. He was the starting pitcher for the AL in the All-Star game in 1966, 1968, and 1969 but got involved with bookies and was suspended indefinitely in 1971 and out of baseball not long after. He spent time in prison for an assortment of financial crimes. He was sentenced to 23 years for extortion, loansharking and other crimes but got out in less than three years.
He was also a bit of a flake, always threatening to quit baseball to pursue a musical career.
His pursuit of thirty wins in the summer of 68 was a nice distraction from RFK's assassination, the events in Chicago, and the growing peace movement that was dividing my family and the nation.
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Bill Ryan, you're old enough to VIVIDLY remember 1968? 😳 My Mother was a BABY in 1968 and she's turning 59 this year, so you're probably in your 70's or 80's. 🤔💡
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I would guess half of the members here are older than your mother.
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I guess I am the other half. Born in the latter half of 1968. I'm two years younger than her mother.
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I didn't specify exactly how old my Mother is. She was born in 1967 and in 1968 she was still a baby. I consider a one year old to still be a baby. 😀
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You did specify. You said she was 59 years old. I'm 57.
Her birthday, I take it is in January or February?
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Hmm. I reread my post and I said she's turning 59 this year. As of right now, she's 58. 😀
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My apology. You did say she is turning 59.
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I accept your apology. 😀
Also Bud Cort age 77, from a long unspecified illness. He had roles in Mash and was Harold from "Harold and Maude" about a 20 something dating an 80 something.
Quote: darkozJames Van Der Beek from Dawson's Creek. 47 or 48. From Cancer.
Also Bud Cort age 77, from a long unspecified illness. He had roles in Mash and was Harold from "Harold and Maude" about a 20 something dating an 80 something.
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JUST found out about James Van Der Beek death literally a few minutes ago before visiting WOV. 😭 RIP to James 😭 He was only 7 years older than me! 😭 Died so young! 😭
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtBwVWWa3Ss
Quote: rxwineRobert Duvall at 95
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He was one of my favorites. I can't think of a movie he did that I didn't like. Not my favorite gambling movie, but he was outstanding as the father in Lucky You. Probably an overlooked movie I really liked was The Apostle.
I am in the credits as a historical advisor to his last movie The Pale Blue Eye.
RIP.
Like everyone, he had his flaws and detractors.
A protege of Dr. Martin Luther King, he was famously on the balcony in Memphis when King was assassinated.
He was the spooky Boo Radley in To Kill A Mockingbird; on film for only 3 minutes but everyone remembers him.
Consigliero to The Godfather.
The reasonable realistic guy in so many movies.
R.I.P.
Quote: billryanThe Reverend Jackson was a controversial figure, but he was instrumental in obtaining the release of captured US personnel in Syria, helped dozens of Americans imprisoned in Cuba, and convinced Saddam Hussein to release all the Western hostages he had taken at the beginning of the Gulf War. He was also involved in the push to register voters that resulted in almost ten million people signing up.
Like everyone, he had his flaws and detractors.
A protege of Dr. Martin Luther King, he was famously on the balcony in Memphis when King was assassinated.
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Only in America would someone who campaigned in the interests of all for peace and justice be considered controversial.
I'd add he played a significant role in making it possible for a black man to win an election, making the concept of fielding black candidates credible to those who might have agreed with the concept morally but worried about the tactical practicality.
Quote: gordonm888I first noticed Robert Duvall in Lonesome Dove. He brought out so much emotion in us.
He was the spooky Boo Radley in To Kill A Mockingbird; on film for only 3 minutes but everyone remembers him.
Consigliero to The Godfather.
The reasonable realistic guy in so many movies.
R.I.P.
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I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Until that scene in Apocalypse Now I didn't realize how short Robert Duvall was. Mostly I knew him from The Godfather at that time where most of his scenes were with other really short actors like Al Pacino and James Caan.
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Only in America would someone who campaigned in the interests of all for peace and justice be considered controversial.
He regularly used race to shake businesses down. He was in the race-industrial mafia. That is controversial.
Oh, yeah, he said he wanted to rip Obama's nuts off.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: gordonm888I first noticed Robert Duvall in Lonesome Dove. He brought out so much emotion in us.
He was the spooky Boo Radley in To Kill A Mockingbird; on film for only 3 minutes but everyone remembers him.
Consigliero to The Godfather.
The reasonable realistic guy in so many movies.
R.I.P.
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I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Until that scene in Apocalypse Now I didn't realize how short Robert Duvall was. Mostly I knew him from The Godfather at that time where most of his scenes were with other really short actors like Al Pacino and James Caan.
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Another way to hide shortness in an actor is to have all of their filmed scenes with them sitting down or having the camera be positioned with the actor looking down and the camera being on the ground,, filming the shot from the ground up giving the illusion that the actor is taller than the viewer. Spy Kids 1 did this camera trick with Alexa and Darryl who were kids at the time look adult height. 💡
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Only in America would someone who campaigned in the interests of all for peace and justice be considered controversial.
He regularly used race to shake businesses down. He was in the race-industrial mafia. That is controversial.
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Only in America would a successful campaign to hire more black managers and award more contracts to black-owned businesses be considered controversial.
Quote: bwHe was an anti Semite and scumbag.
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I agree. But not even worth calling out. This is a person who provided nothing to society but enmity, succeeded at nothing but scams and slanders, and is barely worthy of infamy, let alone fame.
That anyone even knows who he is, is a failing the rest of society. Why would we elevate someone like that to the status of "celebrity?"
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: bwHe was an anti Semite and scumbag.
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I agree. But not even worth calling out. This is a person who provided nothing to society but enmity, succeeded at nothing but scams and slanders, and is barely worthy of infamy, let alone fame.
That anyone even knows who he is, is a failing the rest of society. Why would we elevate someone like that to the status of "celebrity?"
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He did say that if he was walking down the street and saw three young white guys coming from the other direction he would barely give it a thought but if it was three young black guys, he would probably cross to the other side of the street.
Quote: DougGanderQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: DougGander
Only in America would someone who campaigned in the interests of all for peace and justice be considered controversial.
He regularly used race to shake businesses down. He was in the race-industrial mafia. That is controversial.
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Only in America would a successful campaign to hire more black managers and award more contracts to black-owned businesses be considered controversial.
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Some people argue best when they argue your point.
Humans are complex and IMO judging them solely by their activism for a cause that we all agree with is overly simplistic.
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I agree. But not even worth calling out. This is a person who provided nothing to society but enmity, succeeded at nothing but scams and slanders, and is barely worthy of infamy, let alone fame.
He was never convicted or even prosecuted of any financial crime. So your claim is entirely a fabrication.
Couldn't find much evidence of Jackson being an anti-semite either, one clumsy phrase- "hymietown"-a description of New York, seems to be doing an awful lot of work there.
Functionally equivalent to this Islamophobic comment:
The depressed up there don't have to drink themselves to death anymore. They now have a government approved program for that.
It might have to do with sharia law being enforced in some Canadian neighborhoods too.
posted by...Automatic Monkey.
Of course this is different because political correctness only applies to whatever specific ethno-religious group you happen to belong to, or think you do.
Quote: gordonm888I have a profound respect and deep admiration for Dr. Martin Luther King. Ditto for Nelson Mandela. However, I am not a fan of Al Sharpton. My opinion of Jesse Jackson is somewhere between King and Sharpton. He always seemed to me to be interested in anything that would enhance his own celebrity. Not sure he ever personally sacrificed anything for his cause.
Humans are complex and IMO judging them solely by their activism for a cause that we all agree with is overly simplistic.
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For reference, what sacrifice would've been suitable? Personal poverty? Wounded or killed in an assassination attempt? Unjust arrest and incarceration?
Quote: billryanI guess he bought his place on that balcony in Memphis rather than earning it. That he rose to the top of the civil rights movement based on his good looks without sacrifice.
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He rose to the top of the civil rights movement based on his ruthlessness and unblushing dishonesty.
But what disgusted me the most about him was his pretending to be a minister of Christianity while running around doing adultery and fathering a bastard child, promoting racial hatred, and engaging in scams and shakedowns. My knowledge of the Gospels is that of a layman, but I do not believe there is any record of Jesus having done or advocating for such things.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanI guess he bought his place on that balcony in Memphis rather than earning it. That he rose to the top of the civil rights movement based on his good looks without sacrifice.
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He rose to the top of the civil rights movement based on his ruthlessness and unblushing dishonesty.
But what disgusted me the most about him was his pretending to be a minister of Christianity while running around doing adultery and fathering a bastard child, promoting racial hatred, and engaging in scams and shakedowns. My knowledge of the Gospels is that of a layman, but I do not believe there is any record of Jesus having done or advocating for such things.
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And we were all the better for it!
This is starting to go off track and is about to get political. Please help change the direction of this.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanI guess he bought his place on that balcony in Memphis rather than earning it. That he rose to the top of the civil rights movement based on his good looks without sacrifice.
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He rose to the top of the civil rights movement based on his ruthlessness and unblushing dishonesty.
But what disgusted me the most about him was his pretending to be a minister of Christianity while running around doing adultery and fathering a bastard child, promoting racial hatred, and engaging in scams and shakedowns. My knowledge of the Gospels is that of a layman, but I do not believe there is any record of Jesus having done or advocating for such things.
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And we were all the better for it!
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Speak for yourself only. If such activities are a step up for you, I guess you would know it. But they are abhorrent to me.
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I agree. But not even worth calling out. This is a person who provided nothing to society but enmity, succeeded at nothing but scams and slanders, and is barely worthy of infamy, let alone fame.
He was never convicted or even prosecuted of any financial crime. So your claim is entirely a fabrication.
Couldn't find much evidence of Jackson being an anti-semite either, one clumsy phrase- "hymietown"-a description of New York, seems to be doing an awful lot of work there.
Functionally equivalent to this Islamophobic comment:
The depressed up there don't have to drink themselves to death anymore. They now have a government approved program for that.
It might have to do with sharia law being enforced in some Canadian neighborhoods too.
posted by...Automatic Monkey.
Of course this is different because political correctness only applies to whatever specific ethno-religious group you happen to belong to, or think you do.
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For years Jesse Jackson was best buddies with Louis Farrakhan who was a blatant outspoken anti-semite. Jackson and Farrakhan were like two peas in a pod, they were inseparable for the longest time. You are known the best for the people you keep company with.
Hopefully not too many celebrities die during the next 20 hours or so.
NOW REOPEN AFTER SECOND TRY.
He shot himself.
In the armpit.
Most likely removing his gun from holster is what I understand. It's happened before because of the angle the gun sits in the shoulder holster.
Sickening.
Quote: JimRockfordWhen I first heard about the concept of G0-Fund-Me my first thought was SCAM. I have viewed every G-F-M with suspicion ever since.
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I don’t view this as a scam. To me a scam implies some subterfuge. This is clear.
‘I’m a multi millionaire whose sister in law passed away. Can the rest of you give my brother money?’
Crazy.
I feel a bit under the weather. Maybe I can earn some money. Why wait until you're dead?
Quote: billryanThere is a rumour that he was showing someone a quickdraw when the gun discharged.
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The door was locked from the inside. A neighbor called for a wellness check when the music in his apartment kept playing for days.
That rumor makes no sense.
More likely he was arriving home, put on his stereo and just started getting comfortable. Wasn't paying attention.
Quote: darkozQuote: billryanThere is a rumour that he was showing someone a quickdraw when the gun discharged.
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The door was locked from the inside. A neighbor called for a wellness check when the music in his apartment kept playing for days.
That rumor makes no sense.
More likely he was arriving home, put on his stereo and just started getting comfortable. Wasn't paying attention.
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Maybe he confused it with deodorant?
I'd need to know more, this is not a complete story. If a modern gun fires, you were handling it. There is no legitimate way of handling a firearm where it is pointed in your armpit. Sounds to me like he was doing something not too cool, and they're not saying.
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For years Jesse Jackson was best buddies with Louis Farrakhan who was a blatant outspoken anti-semite. Jackson and Farrakhan were like two peas in a pod, they were inseparable for the longest time. You are known the best for the people you keep company with.
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Jackson on Farrakhan's anti-semitism
"I find such statements or comments to be reprehensible and morally indefensible. I am a Judeo-Christian and the roots of my faith run deep in the Judeo-Christian tradition. I disavow such comments and thoughts. I will not permit Minister Farrakhan's words, wittingly or unwittingly, to divide the Democratic Party. Neither anti-Semitism nor anti-black statements have any place in our party. He is not a part of our campaign. I discouraged his participation."
You have NOTHING here. If you judged people by the company they keep most US politicians would be in jail. I'd add your own comments about homeless people, and the comments of automatic monkey/gordon888 on islam and other minority groups were significantly more offensive and numerous than anything Jackson ever said.
