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Quote: DJGeniusI don’t want to derail this thread but as a Tolkien fan, I just have to jump in.
Tolkien began the stories that would eventually be published as the Silmarillion in 1914. The stories form the underlying mythology of the Lord of the Rings. They are more then just casually related, or “other stuff” that Tolkien wrote in a similar vein. Galadriel is a character in the story. Elrond is a character in the story. Elrond’s brother Elros is an ancestor of Aragon, which is why Aragorn is actually the “hidden king” of Gondor. Sauron is the main antagonist from the second age on. Gandalf, Saruman, Celeborn and too many others to mention play minor roles.
The whole arc of the first half of the book is the story of the Elven exile to Middle-Earth by the Valar and eventual redemption and invitation to return by ship to the Undying Lands. That’s why the last chapter of the LOTR has so much underlying emotional weight.
Not to mention all the histories, languages, place names, etc. etc.
So while I understand your interpretation that it took Tolkien 11 years to actually write the book, the idea that it took him 40 years is not a new or ridiculous idea.
The Lord of the Rings was his life’s work. Every Tolkien fan I’ve ever spoken with knows that. That’s precisely what we love about it... that’s what we marvel at.
Sorry if I got a bit carried away... but there’s my 2c.
DJ
Thank you
You put it more succinctly than me.
That was what I was trying to get at. I have read many books by Christopher Tolkien and the history of LOTR creation. That's where I came up with 40 years.
Quote: DJGenius
So while I understand your interpretation that it took Tolkien 11 years to actually write the book, the idea that it took him 40 years is not a new or ridiculous idea.
OK, I can play that game. Hemingway
first heard the story that was the basis
of Old Man and the Sea 20 years before
he wrote the book. He mulled the idea
over till 1951 when he actually wrote it.
So it took him 20 years to write OMATS!
No it didn't. It took him a couple months.
By your reasoning we should look at all
authors works as starting in 5th grade
when they first saw their parents having
sex as when they started to write the
sex scene in a book 30 years later. It
doesn't work like that. Tolkein sat down
11 years before the final draft of LOTR
and started writing it.
Quote: EvenBobOK, I can play that game. Hemingway
first heard the story that was the basis
of Old Man and the Sea 20 years before
he wrote the book. He mulled the idea
over till 1951 when he actually wrote it.
So it took him 20 years to write OMATS!
No it didn't. It took him a couple months.
By your reasoning we should look at all
authors works as starting in 5th grade
when they first saw their parents having
sex as when they started to write the
sex scene in a book 30 years later. It
doesn't work like that. Tolkein sat down
11 years before the final draft of LOTR
and started writing it.
I agree with you on most of it but LOTR simply was a totally different genesis.
There are earlier writings that morphed into LOTR.
The entire language of the elves was worked on for decades.
Research went into them that spanned decades.
By your version of events a reporter who spends 20 years researching for a book only spent ons year on writing it because they put it all together into book form in one year
Quote: kubikulannThat person may not be aware of new rules,
but I take this as a direct personal attack AND an unwarranted attack on my country.
On QWERTY keyboards, is S so close to P?
I went back and looked at all of it. I don't think it was an attack on you or your country. It was a fable/story that quoted an unnamed drunk patron, not a member. I also looked up Belgium as a miniature horse enthusiast location, and it seems you do have them.
And, I looked up whether Belgium is known for serving horse meat, which we generally don't do in the US. From wiki:
In Belgium, horse meat (paardenvlees in Dutch and viande chevaline in French) is popular in a number of preparations. Lean, smoked, and sliced horse meat fillet (paardenrookvlees or paardengerookt; filet chevalin in French) is served as a cold cut with sandwiches or as part of a cold salad.
So, I don't see the insult here.
I would love to walk into the Wynn and play blackjack with my horse.
Using a keyboard is so yesterday. Nowadays, for the most part, I'm just talking to my computer.Quote: kubikulann
On QWERTY keyboards, is S so close to P?
Quote: AxelWolfUsing a keyboard is so yesterday. Nowadays, for the most part, I'm just talking to my computer.
I don't believe that. Computers do not spell nearly as poorly as you do.
Quote: AxelWolfUsing a keyboard is so yesterday. Nowadays, for the most part, I'm just talking to my computer.
Lol, so that weird typo post awhile back was its interpretation of your speech. You must have been pretty hammered
That's incorrect, you just have to know how to train them properly.Quote: DRichI don't believe that. Computers do not spell nearly as poorly as you do.
Didn't you know? I made multiple sizable bets that I couldn't go a year without drinking. I started the day after Super Bowl. I haven't drank since. It wasn't even hard, I almost never think about it.Quote: darkozLol, so that weird typo post awhile back was its interpretation of your speech. You must have been pretty hammered
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The speech to text thing isn't infallible and I don't use all the time, especially if I'm out and about or if I'm traveling. I'm still trying to work out the kinks. I'm using some crappy free version thus far. My microphone needs an upgrade since it has a hard time picking up my voice through the ottoman that I now have my laptop neatly tucked into. I'm working on a completely clutter-free more organized and maximum comfort zone. I now only use a big monitor and wireless mouse when I'm at home. If I actually need access to a keyboard I just use the on-screen keyboard.
I did notice my speech-to-text program won't work in all windows like on Twitter, online support chat, online forms Etc. Obviously, there's ways around that using cut and paste, but I'm trying to figure out how to avoid having to do that.
It doesn't work very well on my phone as of yet, but eventually I'll figure that out.
Thank you. I haven't had any experience attacking entire countries before so when the State Department returns my calls - I'll tell them the issue has been resolved.Quote: beachbumbabsI went back and looked at all of it. I don't think it was an attack on you or your country. It was a fable/story that quoted an unnamed drunk patron, not a member. I also looked up Belgium as a miniature horse enthusiast location, and it seems you do have them.
And, I looked up whether Belgium is known for serving horse meat, which we generally don't do in the US. From wiki:
In Belgium, horse meat (paardenvlees in Dutch and viande chevaline in French) is popular in a number of preparations. Lean, smoked, and sliced horse meat fillet (paardenrookvlees or paardengerookt; filet chevalin in French) is served as a cold cut with sandwiches or as part of a cold salad.
So, I don't see the insult here.
Quote: AxelWolfUsing a keyboard is so yesterday. Nowadays, for the most part, I'm just talking to my computer.
I only do that for texts. I like
typing because it's easier to
construct a proper sentence.
Something that seems not to
matter to you at all.
Quote: EvenBobI only do that for texts. I like
typing because it's easier to
construct a proper sentence.
Something that seems not to
matter to you at all.
Proper sentences are overrated.😀
Nappy is allowed inside all my local casinos even though he isn't 21 yet. He's a sucker for the free soft drink stations and they finally cracked down and made a new rule so now he just prefers to wait for me outside.Quote: DRichIn Nevada the Mini-Horse is the only other legal service animal besides a dog.
Quote: kubikulannOn QWERTY keyboards, is S so close to P?
Oh yeah - one last thing. That QWERTY joke pucked.
Quote: EvenBobI only do that for texts. I like
typing because it's easier to
construct a proper sentence.
Something that seems not to
matter to you at all.
You correct,
I not care.
Like you not care
about Proper
length format of
your posts.
Agrred. A jab is not an insult.Quote: beachbumbabsI went back and looked at all of it. I don't think it was an attack on you or your country. From wiki:
In Belgium, horse meat (paardenvlees in Dutch and viande chevaline in French) is popular in a number of preparations.
So, I don't see the insult here.
How to signal irony? Are we forced to use emoticons ?
Nevertheless, I thought that the references to using the word ‘retarded’ and to Belgium could be held as pointing at me. Not that I care from a self-styled ‘P’ucker (or a butt, for that matter), but I wanted to show my disapproval.
Horse meat used to be a thing. There were ‘boucheries chevalines’ dedicated to it, because horse meat does not conserve as well as others. But the taste is not so great. You would be hard-pressed to find horse meat today.
Quote: EvenBobI only do that for texts. I like
typing because it's easier to
construct a proper sentence.
Something that seems not to
matter to you at all.
I am with you. I only use voice to text for texting.
Both Ernest Hemingway and Mickey Spillane are dead, but their works live on. We can drink pineapple juice in our beer and rum (egads, what a horrible thought) or we can throw knives at the waitresses in Fort Myers Beach (though Hemingway only threw butter knives), but I see no great reason to do either though.
