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June 5th, 2019 at 5:09:58 PM permalink
Hi. I'll be going back to the GN next week (let me know if anyone wants a trip report) and am wondering if I can ask for more comps. I usually get what I want because I'm low maintence and don't ask for much so I'm wondering if I could do better.

I play 80% craps, maybe $600 here and there on every roll. The rest is blackjack at $100 a hand. I give them 4 hours a day, sometimes 5. Right now I get the full RFB deal along with the limo. On the last visit my host bumped me up to the next level of suite (the Parlour suite for those who care to look it up) and put a welcome basket in the room without my asking.

This trip will include $600 of show up money along with a bacon maker, of all things :-)

Does this sound in line or should I be getting, or at least asking, for more? Free cabana, airfare (doubtful on that one)?

BTW, I meant to go a month later but my host called me on two occasions to see when I would be coming back again.
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June 5th, 2019 at 7:57:08 PM permalink
I would ask for more, but not in a "I deserve more" way. Ask for something specific, like good seats to a residence show on the Strip or event tickets to some other attraction. 3rd party comps are a notch up from what you're telling us you're getting so far. So let them be your Comp Concierge.

I was not playing as big as you, and they (CET) were comping me NASCAR tickets, Bette Midler and Celine Dion, a couple off-site restaurants (stand-alones, not in competitor casinos). That's a level up from in-house stuff, and it's likely they'll have to manually raise your rating in the computer to get them, which is what you want to have happen.
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June 5th, 2019 at 8:53:14 PM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

Hi. I'll be going back to the GN next week (let me know if anyone wants a trip report)


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Lovecomps
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June 6th, 2019 at 10:45:51 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I would ask for more, but not in a "I deserve more" way. Ask for something specific, like good seats to a residence show on the Strip or event tickets to some other attraction. 3rd party comps are a notch up from what you're telling us you're getting so far. So let them be your Comp Concierge.

I was not playing as big as you, and they (CET) were comping me NASCAR tickets, Bette Midler and Celine Dion, a couple off-site restaurants (stand-alones, not in competitor casinos). That's a level up from in-house stuff, and it's likely they'll have to manually raise your rating in the computer to get them, which is what you want to have happen.




Do you think the rules, or comps that the host is even allowed to give, is influenced by my being at a downtown property?
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June 6th, 2019 at 2:59:31 PM permalink
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Do you think the rules, or comps that the host is even allowed to give, is influenced by my being at a downtown property?



I think that the host office has a budget, and it's a dynamic situation. They can have a balance with another property (s), uncommitted funds for that week/month, various levels of authority within their department, and constant changes with their top-tier customer plans and desires. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING, ASK (Nicely). Sometimes they say yes, sometimes they say they can't do that, but here's what they CAN do. They don't want to say no altogether (of course they will if they have to).

As a downtown property, GN has been there long enough (1970s?) that they have connections everywhere. However, and I don't know how much this affects things, they've changed ownership about 5 times in the last 15-20 years. So I really don't know their outside relationships at all.

I would think they have a deal with somebody to set up golfers on one of the better courses. I would think they have a relationship with one of the better tour companies for Grand Canyon excursions or flights.
And I would think they have relationships with one of the better strip clubs, some of the independent restaurants, some of the outlying attractions. Stuff like that.

This is not stuff they publish, usually. You have to be in the loop to get those kind of offers. I'm just suggesting you test whether you have entry.

BTW, if you have an assigned host, it NEVER hurts to bring them a gift. Good wine, a designer tie or scarf, an expensive executive pen, tasteful original artwork, something that relates to some interest of theirs. I've done that many times, though more in the past, along with a thank you note (this would be after you have a relationship and they've done something special at least once). Don't take them for granted, and they will come looking for you when they know you're there or inbound, and something special crosses their desk. It's just an old-time courtesy that still works.
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June 7th, 2019 at 2:13:25 AM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps


This trip will include $600 of show up money along with a bacon maker, of all things :-)



Please advise what this "show up money" is? Thanks.
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June 7th, 2019 at 9:01:03 AM permalink
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Please advise what this "show up money" is? Thanks.

It's usually free-play or some kind of chips the casino offers you(usually offered by the casino host) just to show up at their casino, "no strings attached".
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June 7th, 2019 at 10:09:50 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It's usually free-play or some kind of chips the casino offers you(usually offered by the casino host) just to show up at their casino, "no strings attached".



As if there is ever any freeplay with no strings attached
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June 7th, 2019 at 11:41:17 AM permalink
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It's usually free-play or some kind of chips the casino offers you(usually offered by the casino host) just to show up at their casino, "no strings attached".



I took it generally as probably this, too, but I have to say at least once I was given "casino cash" at check-in. They handed me a voucher at the front desk for $350, I took it to the cage, they handed me money. No strings attached. And I wasn't playing as big as this. So it could be that.
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Lovecomps
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June 7th, 2019 at 11:42:02 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It's usually free-play or some kind of chips the casino offers you(usually offered by the casino host) just to show up at their casino, "no strings attached".



It's the latter; just cash up front :-).
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