Rigondeaux
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May 10th, 2019 at 11:16:54 AM permalink
Max: it's been customary to tip chamber maids at least since this Seinfeld aired (1:45)

Mission146
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May 10th, 2019 at 11:18:50 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

I'm not buying that. I wonder what percent of people tip on hotel rooms to begin with. I don't think there's a standard for hotels like there is for restaurants.



I managed economy hotels for a total of about 7.5 years and, in my limited experience, roughly 50% of all rooms tip upon checking out. I would think that this percentage would likely be higher at a more expensive hotel, but you never know.

Also, the $2/hour in tips, on average, is also pretty true from my experience. Most people don't tip $5, usually $1-$2 and some guests have explicitly told me that they just tip a buck for each night stayed all at the end of the stay. Stayovers usually don't tip at all or just tip a dollar. My housekeepers were instructed not to take change sitting on the TV stand (or anywhere else) from a stayover room because, for whatever reason, people just like to leave their change there even if it is not intended for the housekeeper.

Really thinking about it, it probably came out to a little more than $2/hour for the housekeepers, probably not quite $3/hour, but more than $2/hour enough so that $2 is definitely safe to say.

I agree that there really doesn't seem to be any standard set in stone, or anything.

I mean, people tip valets and bellhops (when applicable) and I would say that the housekeeper is not only doing a more difficult job than they are, but also one that is much more gross.
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May 10th, 2019 at 11:21:15 AM permalink
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According to TripAdvisor, 31 percent of people don't tip hotel maids at all

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Mission146
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May 10th, 2019 at 11:23:17 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I'm guessing a take out order doesn't take as much work getting out, but that doesn't mean it requires no tip at all considering this is way more than 1 or 2 dinners in a package.



The only, "Take Out," operation that gets me is pizza places that have a tip jar. I'm talking about places that are not eat in and only serve pizza and other appetizers that one would expect a pizza place to serve.

In what way is packaging all of this stuff an, "Added Service," in this case? Am I going to carry an entire pizza and ten breadsticks without some sort of box? The point is that they would be boxing all of this stuff up one way or the other, it's the only way to transfer any of it to the customer.

Other take out food, yes, completely understood.
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May 10th, 2019 at 11:24:21 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine



See that, apparently my numbers (as I suspected) are from hotels that come in below average in the tipping department. Either that, or non-tippers are willing to lie in TripAdvisor surveys and say they do tip.
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May 10th, 2019 at 2:48:02 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

At the end of the day, we could do away with tips, destroy millions of middle class jobs, get lower quality service and... maybe you'd save like 2% at restaurants.



I have spent a good deal of time in Japan, never received better service anywhere in the U.S. or other tipping culture, enjoyed my experience more because I did not obsess over what was appropriate or worry about ruining someone’s day, and didn’t pay any more than I otherwise would have. I have been told that tipping there is considered a sign of their poor service, as if you are saying “please try harder next time.” They more value (and expect) politeness.

My own feeling is that I wish it was this way here in the U.S. Of course, I think comfort in tipping at a certain level for a specific service or not tipping at all for poor service or certain services is somewhat a personality trait and that is why there is disagreement on this. It seems non-confrontational and uncertain folks might over-tip, and might be the ones who prefer it go away.

I had a $360 handpay (!?!) the other day and while waiting for the tech all I could think about was what I should do. I am sure many of you are laughing at this. I am not a newbie — I have had this experience many times over 25 years, and it is never enjoyable. I admit, I probably have mental issues.
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May 10th, 2019 at 3:39:53 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I think, perhaps being tech nerds who think in spread sheets, they made the false assumption that people only care about the total cost of the service, regardless of where it goes. So they wanted to keep the "tip" portion of the price for themselves. But they were wrong. Most people are happy to pay an extra amount, IF THEY KNOW, it allows the person who is serving them, and talking to them and looking them in the eye, to live in a decent place and put food on the table.


Note: Emphasis mine.

I think they are right. I submit that employers of tip-receiving employees pay them less by about the amount they estimate the tip wills be. Casino dealers at even the nicest of properties here in Vegas make not much more than minimum wage. The casinos get away with it because the dealers can count on most of their income from tips.

Speaking for myself only, I'd rather pay one amount only and end the guessing game. I submit most people know this and think as I do.
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May 10th, 2019 at 4:01:18 PM permalink
I wonder if menus should just automatically put tip and tax into the menu price. For example, a steak quad(, ribeye steak, fries, margarita, and a ice cream brownie is $40. With tax and tip, that is roughly $49. Why not take out the guesswork and say right on the menu,"Steak quad-$49?
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May 10th, 2019 at 4:34:26 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I managed economy hotels for a total of about 7.5 years and, in my limited experience, roughly 50% of all rooms tip upon checking out. I would think that this percentage would likely be higher at a more expensive hotel, but you never know.

Also, the $2/hour in tips, on average, is also pretty true from my experience. Most people don't tip $5, usually $1-$2 and some guests have explicitly told me that they just tip a buck for each night stayed all at the end of the stay. Stayovers usually don't tip at all or just tip a dollar. My housekeepers were instructed not to take change sitting on the TV stand (or anywhere else) from a stayover room because, for whatever reason, people just like to leave their change there even if it is not intended for the housekeeper.

Really thinking about it, it probably came out to a little more than $2/hour for the housekeepers, probably not quite $3/hour, but more than $2/hour enough so that $2 is definitely safe to say.

I agree that there really doesn't seem to be any standard set in stone, or anything.

I mean, people tip valets and bellhops (when applicable) and I would say that the housekeeper is not only doing a more difficult job than they are, but also one that is much more gross.

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May 10th, 2019 at 4:39:16 PM permalink
Maybe I could enjoy the same restaurant RS does. Just create a section of seats like a high limit room. RS can sit in the seats where he can pay the male waiter with a tight butt to hustle by filling his water glass every 30 seconds as much as he likes and I’ll sit in the cheap seats eating the same meal trying to make my water last the entire meal, happily not being bothered by the one armed waitress with a fright wig and butt wider than a school bus.
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