Player Card Question
I was wondering what the pit boss does when you step up to play and toss your players card onto the table (Mlife, CET, 24K..it doesn't matter). Is he just logging you in as a player so he can rate you later and properly record your play, or is he doing more? This doesn't apply to asking for a marker, just playing. Is he taking a long look at your name, if you're at the casino, etc., etc.?
If you are going to play offsetting craps for better ratings/comps (no judgement please), will the same last name, for example, catch his eye as long as you're not betting $500 at a $5 table?
Quote: LovecompsHello everyone,
I was wondering what the pit boss does when you step up to play and toss your players card onto the table (Mlife, CET, 24K..it doesn't matter). Is he just logging you in as a player so he can rate you later and properly record your play, or is he doing more? This doesn't apply to asking for a marker, just playing. Is he taking a long look at your name, if you're at the casino, etc., etc.?
If you are going to play offsetting craps for better ratings/comps (no judgement please), will the same last name, for example, catch his eye as long as you're not betting $500 at a $5 table?
I'm not a pb or dealer, so FWIW. He is logging in your buy-in and the initial amount of your bet. The computer already has the table listed for its game, min-max, hph etc. and this just fills in the blanks on the rating algorithm. If their formula also gives extra credits by tier, your type card will also show, including whether you're using a card that shows an outdated ranking.
A couple places, I've had the Floor tell me to get a new card, or they print one up for me, especially on upgrades. I did have an old one confiscated twice last year for not maintaining the upper level, but that was unusual in my experience. Usually they just ignore it or suggest I get an updated one.
The system should, however, indicate if your account is flagged for some reason. He might then look at you more closely or make a call. Or even ask you to leave right then or refuse your bets if the computer shows you shouldn't be playing for some reason.
Depending on the casino, the PB might not even get a flag - it might flag in security if they want to watch you closely because of past events or some pattern of odd play, then maybe alert the PB if they're seeing an issue. Or maybe just take you by surprise without telling the pit at all.
Quote: LovecompsHello everyone,
I was wondering what the pit boss does when you step up to play and toss your players card onto the table (Mlife, CET, 24K..it doesn't matter). Is he just logging you in as a player so he can rate you later and properly record your play, or is he doing more? This doesn't apply to asking for a marker, just playing. Is he taking a long look at your name, if you're at the casino, etc., etc.?
If you are going to play offsetting craps for better ratings/comps (no judgement please), will the same last name, for example, catch his eye as long as you're not betting $500 at a $5 table?
I have not been the greatest guest when it comes to ... well the things i talk about and my theories that i like to throw around... take for instance, i have said this before, ive been somewhat "backed off" of a roulette table, as the pit manager was getting tired of my rigged wheel talk, and told me to take it up with the gamin control and I did. You can find that story in my post history.
You MIGHT think stuff like that is in their notes and the security might have written that incident down.
NOPE.
I once found a ring, this thing had ALL 3 colored rocks in it. BIG blue, medium red, and many many small diamonds.
Me not being a theif i returned it to lost and found and wouldnt you know, every time i talk to a pit manager they say " SO you found a ring and returned it and they gave you a $20 solt voucher huh?"
(Yes, we're just going to be trying to score comps and tiers, not stealing jewelry).
He is doing whatever he can given the time and software he is using.
How much you arrive with, size of observed bets, looking at the comments section to see if he should wish you a happy birthday or something or perhaps pay very close attention to you for some reason. Eons ago this stuff was done on small file cards, now its on computers. Not all suits think it is progress but they have no choice but to do it.
If you show up separately, don’t associate with each other, etc. then idk what would happen, but they probably won’t care. Unless it’s obvious you’re doing what you’re doing.
Hopefully we'll both get rated well.
Quote: LovecompsThat's the idea. We're going to show up with a little time between us, stay on opposite sides of the table, and not acknowledge each other. Whoever arrives there first might even win a little bit. We'll also toss in the occasional place bet or something to differentiate ourselves but will mostly just be offsetting with full odds.
Hopefully we'll both get rated well.
On a side note, think about this scenario. I sometimes find that the managers are REALLY bad at keeping up with who leaves and who is sitting at which positions of the table.
Arrive at the table, have them take your card and place you into a position, and hope the next person who sits at your position will bet big and you will get rated for them playing. I swear that happens to me once in a blue moon because my comps are sometimes higher than normal as in i played way longer than i had. I only bet min normally so my comps dont grow very fast and when they do it makes no sense to me.
And fooling the staff? Unlikely. That pot bellied cigar-chomping car dealer from Jersey didn't really look much like his Niece but on his last day in Vegas he always played with her card and her mailers for two months would give her far more than just half a sandwich at the Deli and twenty dollars in Free Play.
Big Table Baccarat provides a great opportunity. You sit at different ends of the table and repeatedly bet opposite to each other .... and you get "good" rated play. Eventually the staff and the computers do get wise to it though.
Its no big deal to the casino. And you still get your free drinks.
Quote: LovecompsThat's the idea. We're going to show up with a little time between us, stay on opposite sides of the table, and not acknowledge each other. Whoever arrives there first might even win a little bit. We'll also toss in the occasional place bet or something to differentiate ourselves but will mostly just be offsetting with full odds.
Hopefully we'll both get rated well.
make sure they rate the odds bet. Most casinos dont give you credit for the odds. So if you do 10 with 100 odds your average will be $10 which will get you little to no comps.
ZCore13
That makes sense to me.Quote: Zcore13I would not care about offsetting play. House advantage on both sides. I would not rate for odds bets though.
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