StricklyAP/WizardofNothing
May 22nd, 2025 at 7:55:48 PM
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Quote: MDawg
The Wolf and I cannot come to terms as to this, so we request mutual suspension.
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I found the above to be objectionable.
Link to first complaint: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30418-stricklyap-wizardofnothing/13/#post954622
Link to second complaint: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30418-stricklyap-wizardofnothing/13/#post954624
As far as I can tell, the MDawg quote is declaring both that there was some form of private communication, as well as the contents thereof ("we request mutual suspension").
Perhaps I shouldn't take MDawg at his word, and this statement is in fact a misattribution of authorship of a very brief piece of speculative fiction? Claiming that the breach of confidence didn't occur, because the other party swears they didn't say that is a bizarre defense, confessing to breaking other rules instead.
Rules 4 and 14 clearly apply here. Trying to argue that one of the rules wasn't violated (on a technicality) doesn't seem to remove the violation of the other rule. Rule 17 is clearly watching from the sidelines, with eager interest.
Rules may be found here.
Quote: Prelude to the RulesThese rules should be considered as a guideline of what we will not tolerate. Just because a behavior is not on this list does not mean it will be tolerated or go unpunished. The administration reserves the right to punish any activity it deems disruptive to the forum, whether against these rules or not.
If you want the moderators to uphold judicial rights and rules of evidence, you'll have to more than double our pay.
May the cards fall in your favor.
May 22nd, 2025 at 8:00:43 PM
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Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfI presented some evidence and some of my argument to the person in charge of this matter, and they made their decision despite your counterarguments, complaints, and objections.
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This clearly refers to what happened last week, during my suspension, and references private conversations.
"I presented" ... "and they made their decision" ... "despite your counterarguments, complaints, and objections."
For you to argue otherwise is demeaning to yourself.
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As I have linked above ( https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30418-stricklyap-wizardofnothing/14/#post955037 ), the complaints I saw were public, and did not appear to betray any private communications.
May the cards fall in your favor.
May 22nd, 2025 at 9:06:42 PM
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I lost you.
There are two separate things going on here.
I am saying that A.Wolf cannot claim that I betrayed the contents of a private message (which is what led you to suspend me), and claim simultaneously that he did not say whatever it is I betrayed.
That is one issue, a sort of appeal of my suspension as having made no sense. (AutomaticMonkey seems to have gotten it, not sure if you did.)
The second thing is that today, A.Wolf stepped in and started referring to private communications that happened after I was suspended.
There are two separate things going on here.
I am saying that A.Wolf cannot claim that I betrayed the contents of a private message (which is what led you to suspend me), and claim simultaneously that he did not say whatever it is I betrayed.
That is one issue, a sort of appeal of my suspension as having made no sense. (AutomaticMonkey seems to have gotten it, not sure if you did.)
The second thing is that today, A.Wolf stepped in and started referring to private communications that happened after I was suspended.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
May 22nd, 2025 at 9:52:39 PM
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NO, I did not.Quote: MDawgA.Wolf stepped in and started referring to private communications that happened after I was suspended.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 22nd, 2025 at 10:04:15 PM
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It's not that I don't believe you, it's that it is obvious that you were referring to what was said during my suspension. Plain English.
Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfI presented some evidence and some of my argument to the person in charge of this matter, and they made their decision despite your counterarguments, complaints, and objections.
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This clearly refers to what happened last week, during my suspension, and references private conversations.
"I presented" ... "and they made their decision" ... "despite your counterarguments, complaints, and objections."
For you to argue otherwise is demeaning to yourself.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
May 23rd, 2025 at 12:10:16 AM
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Quote: MDawgI lost you.
There are two separate things going on here.
I am saying that A.Wolf cannot claim that I betrayed the contents of a private message (which is what led you to suspend me), and claim simultaneously that he did not say whatever it is I betrayed.
Wow.
Yes, he can.
Are you going to magically feel better of I cross out "Privacy rule" and replace it with "Misquoting"?
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That is one issue, a sort of appeal of my suspension as having made no sense. (AutomaticMonkey seems to have gotten it, not sure if you did.)
The second thing is that today, A.Wolf stepped in and started referring to private communications that happened after I was suspended.
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If there are such private communications, I am unaware of them, and I see no explicit nor implicit reference to them by AxelWolf.
May the cards fall in your favor.
May 23rd, 2025 at 12:55:30 AM
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No one told me MD made counterarguments, complaints, and objections. I was 100% certain he would, and I was 100% certain there was no chance he didn't.Quote: DieterQuote: MDawgI lost you.
There are two separate things going on here.
I am saying that A.Wolf cannot claim that I betrayed the contents of a private message (which is what led you to suspend me), and claim simultaneously that he did not say whatever it is I betrayed.
Wow.
Yes, he can.
Are you going to magically feel better of I cross out "Privacy rule" and replace it with "Misquoting"?Quote:
That is one issue, a sort of appeal of my suspension as having made no sense. (AutomaticMonkey seems to have gotten it, not sure if you did.)
The second thing is that today, A.Wolf stepped in and started referring to private communications that happened after I was suspended.
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If there are such private communications, I am unaware of them, and I see no explicit nor implicit reference to them by AxelWolf.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 23rd, 2025 at 2:06:44 AM
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Quote: DieterQuote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfI presented some evidence and some of my argument to the person in charge of this matter, and they made their decision despite your counterarguments, complaints, and objections.
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This clearly refers to what happened last week, during my suspension, and references private conversations.
"I presented" ... "and they made their decision" ... "despite your counterarguments, complaints, and objections."
For you to argue otherwise is demeaning to yourself.
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As I have linked above ( https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30418-stricklyap-wizardofnothing/14/#post955037 ), the complaints I saw were public, and did not appear to betray any private communications.
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Excuse moi for butting in. Which MDawg we talkin here? The father or the son, MDawg or MDawg II? I saw 2 threads here, one about the adventures of the senior and its sequence authored by the junior, MDawg II.
I had the strong impression that the senior, MDawg, had retired from gambling. I saw picks with his piles of $100,000 chips. Since his LV gambling adventure started, he must have won well over 50 million.
Just curious, no offence.
Peace to all!
PS
Anything happened to Norms forum, blackjacktheforum.com? I checked also on the isitdownrightnow.com site and reports that blackjacktheforum is unreachable.
May 23rd, 2025 at 4:15:45 AM
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why am I still following this thread?
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
May 23rd, 2025 at 9:28:28 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfNope, I am confidently assuming you made those given my own personal observations of how I believe you react to things, and what you have said in this thread including what you just said previously.Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfto the person in charge
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despite your counterarguments, complaints, and objections.
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Obviously you are referring to private conversations my "counterarguments, complaints, and objections."
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I do not have any information from anyone via private messages/ information that said you made a counterargument, complaint, or objections.
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"Nope, I am confidently assuming" is a rather weak attempt to avoid suspension. The Wolf no doubt has powers of clairvoyance.
Only a fool fights in a burning house, so MDawg will leave this matter now for Dieter and A.Wolf both to keep coming up with rationale for inaction.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
May 23rd, 2025 at 10:54:22 AM
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I never really dealt with Dieter on this matter.Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfNope, I am confidently assuming you made those given my own personal observations of how I believe you react to things, and what you have said in this thread including what you just said previously.Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfto the person in charge
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despite your counterarguments, complaints, and objections.
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Obviously you are referring to private conversations my "counterarguments, complaints, and objections."
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I do not have any information from anyone via private messages/ information that said you made a counterargument, complaint, or objections.
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"Nope, I am confidently assuming" is a rather weak attempt to avoid suspension. The Wolf no doubt has powers of clairvoyance.
Only a fool fights in a burning house, so MDawg will leave this matter now for Dieter and A.Wolf both to keep coming up with rationale for inaction.
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Absolutely no clairvoyance needed, I believe I just simply have a very good read on you. I'm very, very confident in my read.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 23rd, 2025 at 2:34:16 PM
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From the first day that you “met” MDawg and failed to recognize an $80,000 platinum day date Rolex for what it was thinking that it was the same as the fake Rolex that you have had in a drawer for years, you have had a completely inaccurate and laughable read.
Perhaps not always though...
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Perhaps not always though...
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
May 24th, 2025 at 3:08:52 AM
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Yes, unlike some people, I can give someone credit for certain things, no matter what my personal feelings about them are.Quote: MDawgFrom the first day that you “met” MDawg and failed to recognize an $80,000 platinum day date Rolex for what it was thinking that it was the same as the fake Rolex that you have had in a drawer for years, you have had a completely inaccurate and laughable read.
Perhaps not always though...
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Sometimes it takes a while to get a read on someone, especially someone you have never met.
The only thing I know to have been verified is that you bet a moderate level for a short period of time and won.
I still do not believe 95% of your claims.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 24th, 2025 at 5:55:12 AM
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Quote: toolyp<snip>Anything happened to Norms forum, blackjacktheforum.com? I checked also on the isitdownrightnow.com site and reports that blackjacktheforum is unreachable.
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toolyp,
www.blackjacktheforum.com is back up and running.
Dog Hand
May 24th, 2025 at 6:18:57 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfYes, unlike some people, I can give someone credit for certain things, no matter what my personal feelings about them are.Quote: MDawgFrom the first day that you “met” MDawg and failed to recognize an $80,000 platinum day date Rolex for what it was thinking that it was the same as the fake Rolex that you have had in a drawer for years, you have had a completely inaccurate and laughable read.
Perhaps not always though...
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Sometimes it takes a while to get a read on someone, especially someone you have never met.
The only thing I know to have been verified is that you bet a moderate level for a short period of time and won.
I still do not believe 95% of your claims.
Which 5% do you believe?
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The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
May 24th, 2025 at 7:41:21 AM
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Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolf
Let us both send the private messages to Mike
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What are you talking about? AxelWolf comes on here routinely claiming that I report him privately to the mods now I am saying the same about him. Is he privy to more info than I am? He already posted that he was going to PM the Wizard, so that cat is already out of the bag.
Is it now against the rules to state that a complaint has been filed against me? Obviously it came from AWolf in that he declared that he was going to PM the Wizard. Plus who else would complain about this matter? Use your head.
As far as the prior times, AxelWolf came in and freely admitted that he made the complaints.
The point is - that it's the guy who complains about such and such who is sometimes the biggest offender.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
May 24th, 2025 at 7:45:41 AM
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Does anyone else remember when this was a thread about SAP / WON / JWT?
Those were the days.
Those were the days.
May 24th, 2025 at 8:35:19 AM
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there's a rule change I didn't know about and hijacking is OK now? Heh. Ok, wowQuote: prozemaDoes anyone else remember when this was a thread about SAP / WON / JWT?
Those were the days.
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the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
May 24th, 2025 at 9:18:30 AM
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I wasn't trying to suggest anybody was breaking a rule or trying to get anyone suspended. In fact, it's kind of entertaining listening to these two bicker. It's almost like two girls showed up to the prom wearing the same dress.
May 24th, 2025 at 9:39:15 AM
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I am trying to suggest someone was breaking a rule ... but not trying to get anyone suspended, not my thing
There is a German word for the behavior of competitors of the same profession, but I can't think of it
There is a German word for the behavior of competitors of the same profession, but I can't think of it
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
May 24th, 2025 at 9:41:32 AM
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I have said for a long time now that I believe you make many complaints, and are responsible for many different people's suspensions.Quote: MDawgQuote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolf
Let us both send the private messages to Mike
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What are you talking about? AxelWolf comes on here routinely claiming that I report him privately to the mods now I am saying the same about him. Is he privy to more info than I am? He already posted that he was going to PM the Wizard, so that cat is already out of the bag.
Is it now against the rules to state that a complaint has been filed against me? Obviously it came from AWolf in that he declared that he was going to PM the Wizard. Plus who else would complain about this matter? Use your head.
As far as the prior times, AxelWolf came in and freely admitted that he made the complaints.
The point is - that it's the guy who complains about such and such who is sometimes the biggest offender.
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If you take into account the length of time you've been here, I would say you have complained more than anyone else and have been responsible for more people's suspensions than anyone else. Perhaps someone like Bob has caused more suspensions, but he's been here for a lot longer and was pretty controversial during a time when this forum was thriving.
I have no problem admitting that I will lodge a complaint against YOU any chance I get. I used to spar with Bob frequently, too.
FYI I didn't even contact a Mod or anyone regarding your relaying of private conversations. I simply posted in this thread, "And now you are relaying private conversations."
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 24th, 2025 at 9:47:18 AM
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You don't get to take Memorial Day weekend off.Quote: prozemaI wasn't trying to suggest anybody was breaking a rule or trying to get anyone suspended. In fact, it's kind of entertaining listening to these two bicker. It's almost like two girls showed up to the prom wearing the same dress.
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Why aren't you out winning 80% to 90% at slot bets?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 24th, 2025 at 10:05:50 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfYou don't get to take Memorial Day weekend off.Quote: prozemaI wasn't trying to suggest anybody was breaking a rule or trying to get anyone suspended. In fact, it's kind of entertaining listening to these two bicker. It's almost like two girls showed up to the prom wearing the same dress.
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Why aren't you out winning 80% to 90% at slot bets?
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There's no kill switch on awesome.
May 24th, 2025 at 12:16:03 PM
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Quote: odiousgambitthere's a rule change I didn't know about and hijacking is OK now? Heh. Ok, wowQuote: prozemaDoes anyone else remember when this was a thread about SAP / WON / JWT?
Those were the days.
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Sometimes hijacking isn't exactly the right word for it.
It's like the pilot died, the plane is veering and heaving, and a passenger who had some flight lessons once runs to the cockpit and grabs the controls, to see what he can do about it. Yes it's an unauthorized person taking control of the plane, but outside of the spirit of hijacking.
You can predict a rough landing (thread deleted/locked by mods) but everyone will live.
May 24th, 2025 at 12:57:25 PM
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I have always known that about myself.Quote: prozemaQuote: AxelWolfYou don't get to take Memorial Day weekend off.Quote: prozemaI wasn't trying to suggest anybody was breaking a rule or trying to get anyone suspended. In fact, it's kind of entertaining listening to these two bicker. It's almost like two girls showed up to the prom wearing the same dress.
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Why aren't you out winning 80% to 90% at slot bets?
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There's no kill switch on awesome.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 24th, 2025 at 1:00:13 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: odiousgambitthere's a rule change I didn't know about and hijacking is OK now? Heh. Ok, wowQuote: prozemaDoes anyone else remember when this was a thread about SAP / WON / JWT?
Those were the days.
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Sometimes hijacking isn't exactly the right word for it.
It's like the pilot died, the plane is veering and heaving, and a passenger who had some flight lessons once runs to the cockpit and grabs the controls, to see what he can do about it. Yes it's an unauthorized person taking control of the plane, but outside of the spirit of hijacking.
You can predict a rough landing (thread deleted/locked by mods) but everyone will live.
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The thread was parked on the tarmac for seven years before someone necromanced it with a tangentially relevant post.
Continuing the metaphor, I don't know if there's enough fuel to get off the ground, but if you want to poke around the galley to scrounge up a few tiny liquor bottles, that might be ok.
Either way, we're not going to Cuba.
May the cards fall in your favor.
