Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: ams288Am I reading this right? EB's wife is 84? Is this common knowledge or something?
Maybe she only looks 84
In which case Petroglyph may be guilty of an insult:)
Quote: IbeatyouracesGet it right people. I did not, nor did I try to insult EB or his wife. I just asked a simple question to show her so we can compare. She may very well be much better than SD. I DID NOT SAY, NOR IMPLY she was worse.
Quote: billryanThey already have nukes. Them giving up a test site changes that how?
For years, the mantra from the right was Kim is untrustworthy and shouldn't be rewarded for bad behaviour.
Can anyone tell me what changed?
That test site was reportedly already ruined by previous tests so this is no loss with NK not giving up much. Still, this agreement means nothing unless its people get to experience more freedoms. Nuclear deals have been signed before. North Korea has broken esch agreement with every time with no regard with who was in office. I expect this is just a different form of cunnery with a goal of the GOP staying in power which China and Russia support.
All Trump does by meeting with the regime is legitimising its government and acknowledging that its suppression and rights violations are fine, something I guess Trump agrees with, given his attempts to stifle the free press.
I have no idea how old Bob's wife is, and I apologize to Bob for my mistake .
Quote: darkozYou are in your seventies and are falling for that one
70's, did I have b-days I've forgotten? Yeah,
the N Korea thing is all smoke and mirrors
that Trump is falling for. Kim is going to fake
everybody out and his powerhouse, broke
and starving country is going to nuke the world
and take over.
That's what the Left says is really happening, anyway.
We'll see.
Quote: EvenBob70's, did I have b-days I've forgotten? Yeah,
the N Korea thing is all smoke and mirrors
that Trump is falling for. Kim is going to fake
everybody out and his powerhouse, broke
and starving country is going to nuke the world
and take over.
That's what the Left says is really happening, anyway.
We'll see.
I thought you posted you were in your seventies ahile back. Not searching this thread for that
Whatever your age you are old enough not to be fooled by the old bring in your inspectors for a one-time tour gimnick
Quote: darkozthe old bring in your inspectors for a one-time tour gimnick
I just don't see how Kim is not going to point out that Trump just walked out of an agreement that a previous President made.
Quote: darkozI thought you posted you were in your seventies ahile back. Not searching this thread for that
Whatever your age you are old enough not to be fooled by the old bring in your inspectors for a one-time tour gimnick
He stated he was 80 last week. Evidently that post may have been as honest as his others.
Quote: rxwineI just don't see how Kim is not going to point out that Trump just walked out of an agreement that a previous President made.
Im not against a nuclear Korean agreement if its beneficial for us
I just dont see how
"I just reneged on a deal that gave back billions to Iran because it wasnt tough enough. Get ready for our negotiations. Boy are these gonna be strict. You arent getting anything like that"
Is going to be a great starting point for negotiations with Kim
EDIT: That was a hypothetical paraphrase of Trump btw
Quote: darkoznot to be fooled by the old bring in your inspectors for a one-time tour gimnick
Nobody in the gov't has thought
of that! You should send Trump's
people an email ASAP! {snicker}
Quote: EvenBobNobody in the gov't has thought
of that! You should send Trump's
people an email ASAP! {snicker}
Ordinarily I would accept the sarcasm
But if Guiliani, a supposedly well-heeled DA cant understand the legal ramifications of the past weeks mouthing off and Trump and Cohen are so inept at even keeping simple stories straight...
I feel your sarcasm is much closer to the truth than you wish
Quote: darkozOrdinarily I would accept the sarcasm
But you can't, because with every
fiber of your being you HAVE to
believe Trump and everybody
connected to him is completely
incompetent. You HAVE to believe,
like it's a religion. You have no choice,
you've backed yourself into that
corner with TDS. Trump winning has
removed any ability to you might
have had to rationally deal with
Hillary losing.
I understand, it's not your fault..
Quote: EvenBobBut you can't, because with every
fiber of your being you HAVE to
believe Trump and everybody
connected to him is completely
incompetent. You HAVE to believe,
like it's a religion. You have no choice,
you've backed yourself into that
corner with TDS. Trump winning has
removed any ability to you might
have had to rationally deal with
Hillary losing.
I understand, it's not your fault..
Every person who lived with Trump in the news in NYC knows Trump is incompetent
Trump has done nothing to prove competence so far. Destructive stuff yes.
Its okay. I actually feel bad for you. Blind people are often led to the chasm and dont realise it. If people want to stay on a sinking boat let them drown. Keep playing that last waltz on the Trump Titanic. Go down with a smile
Quote: darkozEvery person who lived with Trump in the news in NYC knows Trump is incompetent
Trump has done nothing to prove competence so far. Destructive stuff yes.
ROFL. Really? He’s one of the most successful people in this country and you deem him incompetent? Huh, okay.... 😹🤔
Quote: RSROFL. Really? He’s one of the most successful people in this country and you deem him incompetent? Huh, okay.... 😹🤔
Funny you feel the same way about Hillary and Bill lol
Quote: RSROFL. Really? He’s one of the most successful people in this country and you deem him incompetent? Huh, okay.... 😹🤔
Obama made his 10 million without million dollar loans from his father, no bankruptcy filings, and became senator and President without being well-known on tv or being a billionaire, and without 100s of litigations and did it 25 years younger. I don't think he even knew anyone famous or rich. Trump hobnobbed with the rich and famous. Did regular commentary on Fox for quite awhile. Had all the advantages one could have in fact.
Quote: darkozIm not against a nuclear Korean agreement if its beneficial for us
I just dont see how
"I just reneged on a deal that gave back billions to Iran because it wasnt tough enough. Get ready for our negotiations. Boy are these gonna be strict. You arent getting anything like that"
Is going to be a great starting point for negotiations with Kim
EDIT: That was a hypothetical paraphrase of Trump btw
'Yes, I realize I just broke an agreement the US signed, but I pinky swear I mean this one. Really mean it. "
ZTE recently announced it was ceasing operations due to the US market being closed to it.
Not to worry. Chump to the rescue.
Trump, tweeted on Sunday that he and Chinese leader Xi Jinping "are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!"
ZTE has asked the department to suspend the seven-year ban on doing business with U.S. technology exporters. By cutting off access to U.S. suppliers of essential components such as microchips, the ban threatens ZTE's existence, the company has said.
Make China Great Again.
Quote: darkozFunny you feel the same way about Hillary and Bill lol
I don’t think either it them are incompetent, but I also don’t know much about Bill. But I think Hillary would have been (and would be) a horrible president for the USA.
Quote: rxwineObama made his 10 million without million dollar loans from his father, no bankruptcy filings, and became senator and President without being well-known on tv or being a billionaire, and without 100s of litigations and did it 25 years younger. I don't think he even knew anyone famous or rich. Trump hobnobbed with the rich and famous. Did regular commentary on Fox for quite awhile. Had all the advantages one could have in fact.
So? Shall I give you a run down on Bill Gates’s or Warren Buffet’s financial past and success? Some people are more successful and others are less successful. So what?
Quote: billryan'Yes, I realize I just broke an agreement the US signed, but I pinky swear I mean this one. Really mean it. "
Nobody has thought of this stuff till
now, dang it. Maybe there's still time
to call off the summit before we get
fooled again.. {snicker/guffaw}
Quote: RSSo? Shall I give you a run down on Bill Gates’s or Warren Buffet’s financial past and success? Some people are more successful and others are less successful. So what?
John Rockefeller borrowed money from
his father to get started in business, and
at the time, 1869, it was a lot of money.
How come nobody runs down his fortune
because his family gave him help in the
beginning. Oh yeah, he's not Trump, that's
why.
Quote: EvenBobJohn Rockefeller borrowed money from
his father to get started in business, and
at the time, 1869, it was a lot of money.
How come nobody runs down his fortune
because his family gave him help in the
beginning. Oh yeah, he's not Trump, that's
why.
Anyone who takes ten minutes to read Trumps history of business dealing and doesn't realize he is and has always been a con man is either a very close minded individual or an utter fool.
Quote: billryanAnyone who takes ten minutes to read Trumps history of business dealing and doesn't realize he is and has always been a con man is either a very close minded individual or an utter fool.
I’ll go with utter fool if it is coming from you. Most on here would wear it as a badge of honor.
“Billryan says I’m an utter fool”. Obviously it means one is working hard, making the tough decisions and is successful in life.
Quote: billryanAnyone who takes ten minutes to read Trumps history of business dealing and doesn't realize he is and has always been a con man
LOL! Ever hear the term 'Robber Baron'?
"Robber baron" is a derogatory metaphor of social criticism originally applied to certain American businessmen who used unscrupulous methods to get rich.
MOST super rich businessmen are con
men and crooks, how do you think they
got rich? Luck?
But they don't piss up against people bigger than themselves.Quote: EvenBobMOST super rich businessmen are con
men and crooks, how do you think they
got rich? Luck?
Quote: 1MatterToMotionBut they don't piss up against people bigger than themselves.
I have no idea what this means. Do you?
Quote: EvenBobLOL! Ever hear the term 'Robber Baron'?
"Robber baron" is a derogatory metaphor of social criticism originally applied to certain American businessmen who used unscrupulous methods to get rich.
MOST super rich businessmen are con
men and crooks, how do you think they
got rich? Luck?
Ah so we see what gets your respect
Bernie Madoff must be your hero
Quote: RSSo? Shall I give you a run down on Bill Gates’s or Warren Buffet’s financial past and success? Some people are more successful and others are less successful. So what?
Speaking of
Quote:Warren Buffett cautioned students to avoid borrowed money during a question-and-answer session at Notre Dame in 1991. He used Donald Trump's troubled casino investments to explain the life lesson.
"I've seen more people fail because of liquor and leverage – leverage being borrowed money. Donald Trump failed because of leverage. He simply got infatuated with how much money he could borrow, and he did not give enough thought to how much money he could pay back," Buffett said.
The big problem with Donald Trump was he never went right. He basically overpaid for properties, but he got people to lend him the money. He was terrific at borrowing money. If you look at his assets, and what he paid for them, and what he borrowed to get them, there was never any real equity there,"
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/warren-buffetts-big-life-lesson-to-students-dont-borrow-money-like-donald-trump.html
Quote: darkozEvery person who lived with Trump in the news in NYC knows Trump is incompetent
Trump has done nothing to prove competence so far. Destructive stuff yes.
Its okay. I actually feel bad for you. Blind people are often led to the chasm and dont realise it. If people want to stay on a sinking boat let them drown. Keep playing that last waltz on the Trump Titanic. Go down with a smile
So, I guess he is an accidental billionaire - no brains behind the conglomerate
(in before - his daddy gave him the money lol)
Quote: rxwineObama made his 10 million without million dollar loans from his father, no bankruptcy filings, and became senator and President without being well-known on tv or being a billionaire, and without 100s of litigations and did it 25 years younger. I don't think he even knew anyone famous or rich. Trump hobnobbed with the rich and famous. Did regular commentary on Fox for quite awhile. Had all the advantages one could have in fact.
Yes, Trump will be one of the few politicians in history that DID NOT become wealthy AFTER getting into politics
Obama did not get a book deal which made him millions until after he was a politician
Quote: IbeatyouracesGet it right people. I did not, nor did I try to insult EB or his wife. I just asked a simple question to show her so we can compare. She may very well be much better than SD. I DID NOT SAY, NOR IMPLY she was worse.
Oh really, you think your post doesn't imply she is worse? You think we are idiots here?
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: IbeatyouracesGet it right people. I did not, nor did I try to insult EB or his wife. I just asked a simple question to show her so we can compare. She may very well be much better than SD. I DID NOT SAY, NOR IMPLY she was worse.
Oh really, you think your post doesn't imply she is worse? You think we are idiots here?
No it doesn't. I think you hooked up the wrong person on the anesthesia tonight.
Quote: billryan'Yes, I realize I just broke an agreement the US signed, but I pinky swear I mean this one. Really mean it. "
It was not a treaty - it was an executive agreement, which any President can enter and withdraw from
Obama knew the Senate would never ratify it so, he did what he did during his Presidency, attempt to make law via executive action
The GOP even warned Iran of this
Quote: IbeatyouracesQuote: SOOPOOQuote: IbeatyouracesGet it right people. I did not, nor did I try to insult EB or his wife. I just asked a simple question to show her so we can compare. She may very well be much better than SD. I DID NOT SAY, NOR IMPLY she was worse.
Oh really, you think your post doesn't imply she is worse? You think we are idiots here?
No it doesn't. I think you hooked up the wrong person on the anesthesia tonight.
I don't go in to work for an hour or so. Someone discusses a skanky girl and says let's compare to your wife..... you think that's ok?
Quote: billryanSavvy New Yorkers learned trump was an empty suit years ago. The banks cut off his borrowing, and he turned to Russians for financing. Eric Trump happily admitted that long before his father announced he was running.
Link to proof of Russian financing (not saying you are wrong - just want to read about it if it's true)
And, I consider myself a savvy NY'r and, growing up with Trump in the news all the time was great - NY'rs love the guy - blue collar attitude with white collar money
Quote: aceofspadesLink to proof of Russian financing (not saying you are wrong - just want to read about it if it's true)
And, I consider myself a savvy NY'r and, growing up with Trump in the news all the time was great - NY'rs love the guy - blue collar attitude with white collar money
NYC?
NYS is full of ignorant trumpers
People in the city know better
Quote: SOOPOOI don't go in to work for an hour or so. Someone discusses a skanky girl and says let's compare to your wife..... you think that's ok?
Someone can ask me if my mom is in better shape than the porn star whom EB said slept with 1000 men, Stormy Daniels. I won't take offense.
My mom is a box of ashes, so probably not.
Quote: darkozNYC?
NYS is full of ignorant trumpers
People in the city know better
Are you calling me ignorant?
You can't help but churn out the insults, can you?
Quote: aceofspadesAre you calling me ignorant?
You can't help but churn out the insults, can you?
It's why the polls are sham when it comes to Trump. The Dems just hurl insults at anyone who says a SINGLE positive thing about Trump, and try clever little quips (ignorant Trumpers) that prevent meaningful back and forth. I think its petroglyph that just says he won't give his true feelings when the boorish comment you mention is brought up.
Ace, each time you have posted you have asked simple questions to cut through the childish forays from the lefties. You rarely get a cogent answer. Get used to it here.
Quote: SOOPOOIt's why the polls are sham when it comes to Trump. The Dems just hurl insults at anyone who says a SINGLE positive thing about Trump, and try clever little quips (ignorant Trumpers) that prevent meaningful back and forth. I think its petroglyph that just says he won't give his true feelings when the boorish comment you mention is brought up.
Ace, each time you have posted you have asked simple questions to cut through the childish forays from the lefties. You rarely get a cogent answer. Get used to it here.
I hear ya SOOPOO
I am still waiting for BeachBumBabs to send me link to a Court order or even an article to back up her claim that Michael Avenatti was granted access to FBI/DOJ discovery documents on the Michael Cohen matter
Quote: aceofspadesAre you calling me ignorant?
You can't help but churn out the insults, can you?
1. He wasn't calling you ignorant.
2. Ignorance means a lack of knowledge. He may as easily (and I think it was his intent) be referring to the amount of media coverage Trump got over 30some years of self-promotion in the city rather than statewide. I'm not insulting myself to say I'm ignorant of the law, for example; I'm just stating a fact.
3. If you're going to take offense because you're in a group that someone else names in discussing politics, you'll have to be the first one banned for all the insults to women over the last few days/weeks, among other groups you've disparaged.
In short, the line is nearly impossible to define. Public figures and groups of people others disrespect get a beating in these threads. Short of a direct personal insult, member to member, it's completely disruptive to whack-a-mole on political statements.
Doesn't mean it's not being watched. Doesn't mean there won't come a time, or that there's not a cumulative effect of trolling. But if I start using your standard, there will be about 20 people suspended, including yourself.
Both IBYA and darkoz could be a bit more civil. As could you.
Stay tuned. It's amazing how far people can be lead up a maze, even in a so-called free society.Quote: EvenBobI have no idea what this means. Do you?
Quote: aceofspadesLink to proof of Russian financing (not saying you are wrong - just want to read about it if it's true)
And, I consider myself a savvy NY'r and, growing up with Trump in the news all the time was great - NY'rs love the guy - blue collar attitude with white collar money
Here is a link, and by the way- tourist call people Ny'rs. Not savy New Yorkers.
http://www.businessinsider.com/eric-trump-golf-courses-russia-funding-2017-5
Quote: beachbumbabs1. He wasn't calling you ignorant.
2. Ignorance means a lack of knowledge. He may as easily (and I think it was his intent) be referring to the amount of media coverage Trump got over 30some years of self-promotion in the city rather than statewide. I'm not insulting myself to say I'm ignorant of the law, for example; I'm just stating a fact.
3. If you're going to take offense because you're in a group that someone else names in discussing politics, you'll have to be the first one banned for all the insults to women over the last few days/weeks, among other groups you've disparaged.
In short, the line is nearly impossible to define. Public figures and groups of people others disrespect get a beating in these threads. Short of a direct personal insult, member to member, it's completely disruptive to whack-a-mole on political statements.
Doesn't mean it's not being watched. Doesn't mean there won't come a time, or that there's not a cumulative effect of trolling. But if I start using your standard, there will be about 20 people suspended, including yourself.
Both IBYA and darkoz could be a bit more civil. As could you.
Babs - please link me to the insults I've heaped upon women and other groups in the past few days/weeks (Perhaps you will do this about the same time you send the link to a Court order or an article wherein Avenatti was granted a special dispensation to review FBI/DOJ ongoing investigation materials)
I think, that unless you produce all the statements wherein I allegedly insulted all women and other groups, that you should suspend yourself for false allegations against me)
Additionally, thank you for drawing the line where we can insult other members so long as we state they are part of a group
PS--I am still waiting for you to send me link to a Court order or even an article to back up her claim that Michael Avenatti was granted access to FBI/DOJ discovery documents on the Michael Cohen matter -- this has to be about the 6th or 7th time I've requested that you backup your alleged facts
In 1981, Trump was worth about half of what Warren Buffet was. He is now worth less than a tenth. That's after four bankruptcies and screwing over hundreds of thousands of stockholders and thousands of contractors.
It's that old saying about wrestling with a pig in the mud.Quote: SOOPOOI think its petroglyph that just says he won't give his true feelings when the boorish comment you mention is brought up.
The questions asked don't appear to be for discussion, but to deride any differing opinion.
That's not fun for me, and I'm primarily here to enjoy myself.
