Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: beachbumbabsNo.
Muellers whole objective (I say again) was to avoid being video'd saying things that would be made into sound bytes by either party.
The investigation had a very narrow window of discovery. Anything (and there was a lot) that came to light but was not directly related to the scope of inquiry was shoved to a different investigatory agency.
He did not elaborate on any of that, on purpose. He only allowed mostly yes or no questions directly related to the actual report, also on purpose.
It was all a show.
Are those the latest instructions from CNN?
Baghdad Bob could not have said it better.
Meuller has always been a lying sack.
Look at that six year old video I posted a few days ago, where Jordan tore him apart over the IRS scandal. He was as clueless then as he is today.
Weissmann ran the Trump investigation and wrote the report. Numb Nuts is only a figure head. He admitted he didn’t even write the comments he read before Congress and the American people two months ago.
That’s why he refused to take questions at the time.
Here he is lying to Congress and the American people about 'evidence' of Saddam’s WMD’s, mentioning that other filthy liar, Powell.
A million lives lost and trillions of dollars wasted because of their lies.
Quote: GamblersproI'll go a step further. I like in the UK where we have national healthcare. ..... All of us earn average salaries and pay roughly $100 a month to the NHS as national insurance. I reckon that's a good deal :)
When Mick Jagger, required a heart valve procedure, he chose NYC rather than London.
Maybe that says something about the quality of UK healthcare vs US.
We have safety nets.
Between Medicaid, Medicare and Veterans benefits, 48% of the money spent on health care in the US, is spent by government.
Those who cannot afford private insurance, can qualify for government sponsored Medicaid, if their income level is less than 133% of the government poverty level. For a single person, that threshold is around $16,600.
Those who do not qualify for Medicaid, can still get help depending on their income.
The U.S. Supreme Court justices, by a vote of 5 to 4, lifted orders by a liberal federal judge in Oakland and the liberal U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco that had barred the administration from using the Pentagon’s money to build a border wall.
WINNING!!!
and by the way:
Number 130
Number 131
and also:
Mitch McConnell readies 19 district court picks for confirmation next week
MAGA!!!
The tax cuts continue to be a bust for the economy, and the numbers aren't even close to what was projected or promised by the administration. Spending continues unabated, and with reduced income (guess what the tax cuts haven't made up for that with increased growth either) the deficit is growing at an accelerated rate.
I know, the reaction is going to be "so what?"
Quote: Dalex64Meanwhile, revised GDP numbers are out, now that there is more information available.
The tax cuts continue to be a bust for the economy, and the numbers aren't even close to what was projected or promised by the administration. Spending continues unabated, and with reduced income (guess what the tax cuts haven't made up for that with increased growth either) the deficit is growing at an accelerated rate.
I know, the reaction is going to be "so what?"
I think this is "as expected".
The 2Q number is even better than expected.Quote: MaxPenI think this is "as expected".
"J.P. Morgan economists said they now see much slower second-quarter growth of just 1%, down from their prior forecast of 2.25% and way off the 3.2% reported in the first quarter.
“The April durable goods report was bad, particularly the details relating to capital goods orders and shipments. Coming on the heels of last week's crummy April retail sales report, it suggests second quarter activity growth is sharply downshifting from the first quarter pace,” the economists wrote.cnbc
Note that cap-ex is the first factor cited.
Quote: FleaswatterSupreme Court rules for Trump in border wall funding dispute
The U.S. Supreme Court justices, by a vote of 5 to 4, lifted orders by a liberal federal judge in Oakland and the liberal U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco that had barred the administration from using the Pentagon’s money to build a border wall.
WINNING!!!
and by the way:
Number 130
Number 131
and also:
Mitch McConnell readies 19 district court picks for confirmation next week
MAGA!!!
Yes its a win.
But is it truly a win for your side?
Ex, when a dem president decides there is a national (global) emergency involving climate change and redirects pentagon funds to curb the global emergency what will the righties say about it.
It is now a supreme court decided issue.
Quote: FleaswatterSupreme Court rules for Trump in border wall funding dispute
The U.S. Supreme Court justices, by a vote of 5 to 4, lifted orders by a liberal federal judge in Oakland and the liberal U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco that had barred the administration from using the Pentagon’s money to build a border wall.
I've been waiting for this. What it
does besides getting the wall
going full steam ahead, is it
stops any fed court from pulling
this crap again. SCOTUS gave the
final word, knock it off.
Thanks Justice Kavanaugh and
Justice Gorsuch, you did good.
Now the court goes on vacay
till when, October?
Up to that point, the Dems had a better record on border control than the Republicans.
Now they want open borders.
None of the leaders on either side of the aisle, want effective border control.
It’s purely economics. More people means more consumers and more profits for the corporations that fund re-election campaigns. Never mind the effect is has on taxes, wages, jobs, quality of life and standard of living for the general population.
As soon as Trump announced his plan to impose a punishing tariff on Mexico, and there was a real chance the flow of illegals would be reduced, it was the Republican Senate leaders, not the Dems, who tried to sabotage his plan. McConnell threatened to assemble a veto-proof majority against Trump, even as the Mexican negotiators were en-route to the US.
The moment Trump leaves office, the Republicans will return to their same old, do nothing border control policy.
From Nadler to Mayor Bill, they just can’t stop showing the hatred liberalism stands for.
Quote: BozMany are saying it was Trump’s Greatest Week while the Dems are gift that keeps giving.
From Nadler to Mayor Bill, they just can’t stop showing the hatred liberalism stands for.
Most ironic post of 2019
Quote: darkozMost ironic post of 2019
Nope just the most truthful. And that’s what scares you.
Quote: BozNope just the most truthful. And that’s what scares you.
Lol, for some reason I see u looking into a tv set with your hands on the screen saying, "They're here."
Quote: darkozMost ironic post of 2019
So you have nothing substantive to add to the discussion? Please explain what is ironic of Mueller seeming like a very old man without full control of his faculties while testifying? Even my local newspaper, quite a liberal one at that, headline article said the Mueller testimony was a big dud for those wanting to take the President down. I agree that liberalism shows hatred for those that have success. For those that don't agree with their agenda, hatred is clear.
Quote: BozNope just the most truthful. And that’s what scares you.
Quote: SOOPOOSo you have nothing substantive to add to the discussion? Please explain what is ironic of Mueller seeming like a very old man without full control of his faculties while testifying? Even my local newspaper, quite a liberal one at that, headline article said the Mueller testimony was a big dud for those wanting to take the President down. I agree that liberalism shows hatred for those that have success. For those that don't agree with their agenda, hatred is clear.
So your argument is that the Mueller report shows Trump committed obstruction BUT since Mueller is not in control of his faculties its not to be believed?
A few weeks ago you were touting the Mueller report completely exonerated the potus?
And if Mueller and his report are not credible due to Mueller incompetency then a new report with a proper investigation should be warranted.
Those are your positions?
Quote: darkoz
Yea, that’s exactly it. Whatever.
Don’t you have a piss smelling bus depot to be in somewhere? Sorry, never gets old.
Quote: darkozSo your argument is that the Mueller report shows Trump committed obstruction BUT since Mueller is not in control of his faculties its not to be believed?
A few weeks ago you were touting the Mueller report completely exonerated the potus?
And if Mueller and his report are not credible due to Mueller incompetency then a new report with a proper investigation should be warranted.
Those are your positions?
I NEVER said the Mueller report exonerated the POTUS! What I said was that it did not provide enough facts to convict him of a crime. I have stated many times the way to remove DJT from office is to vote him out. If the Dems can just nominate someone not so far left of most Americans they should be able to do so. Forgetting Mueller's personal problems with clarity, the investigation certainly had access to essentially unlimited resources, and could not come up with enough evidence for Pelosi to decide to impeach. No need for another one. Whether he did or did not commit the actual crime of obstruction of justice, I do not believe that any future investigation will round up enough evidence to convict the President of such, and would be another waste of time, money, and resources. If there was that smoking gun, we would have found it already.
(And your post above does add something substantive to the discussion!)
Quote: SOOPOOSo you have nothing substantive to add to the discussion? Please explain what is ironic of Mueller seeming like a very old man without full control of his faculties while testifying? Even my local newspaper, quite a liberal one at that, headline article said the Mueller testimony was a big dud for those wanting to take the President down. I agree that liberalism shows hatred for those that have success. For those that don't agree with their agenda, hatred is clear.
Do you judge a book by its authors appearance? Are you somehow suggesting that because Mueller appeared old, the facts he stated don't matter or are less truthful? He stated the President committed acts that anyone else would have been indicted for, and said he can be indicted after he leaves office. But you want to focus on his age and appearance.
Over on Fox, longtime trump friend Andrew Napolitano is accusing Trump of unleashing racial hatred. He'll probably lose his job over it.
Quote: FleaswatterSupreme Court rules for Trump in border wall funding dispute
The U.S. Supreme Court justices, by a vote of 5 to 4, lifted orders by a liberal federal judge in Oakland and the liberal U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco that had barred the administration from using the Pentagon’s money to build a border wall.
WINNING!!!
and by the way:
Number 130
Number 131
and also:
Mitch McConnell readies 19 district court picks for confirmation next week
MAGA!!!
The amount of self-delusion involved in applauding this decision is astounding.
Campaign:
What are we gonna do?
Build. A. Wall. (Chant)
Who's gonna pay for it?
MEXICO! (Idiotic applause)
Repeat ad nauseum.
Now:
Trumpers think it's a victory when Trump diverts constitutionally appropriated US TAXPAYER money from other purposes to pay for something he falsely promised another country would pay for.
So my question is...
Does being a Trumper require a complete lobotomy, or is it just done with hypnosis?
Quote: beachbumbabs
Who's gonna pay for it?
MEXICO! (Idiotic applause)
Repeat ad nauseum.
Con job completed by Trump.
Quote: rxwineCon job completed by Trump.
"You can keep your doctor."
Con job completed by Obummer..
"WMD's were found"
Con job completed by Bush
"I never had sex with that woman"
Con job by Clinton
"Read my lips, no new taxes"
Con job by Bush Sr
I don't see your point..
Quote: EvenBob"You can keep your doctor."
Con job completed by Obummer..
"WMD's were found"
Con job completed by Bush
"I never had sex with that woman"
Con job by Clinton
"Read my lips, no new taxes"
Con job by Bush Sr
I don't see your point..
The con job you guys bought into was so stupid you don't need an IQ above 70 to know it was baloney.
Quote: rxwineThe con job you guys bought into was so stupid you don't need an IQ above 70 to know it was baloney.
At least he finally admits it was a con job and he fell for it.
Quote: rxwineThe con job you guys bought into was so stupid you don't need an IQ above 70 to know it was baloney.
And yet the average American has MADE a lot of money since Trump took office. But of course that doesn’t matter when future Dem voters are stopped at the border, right?
But to play along Doc, how exactly has the average American suffered from the “con”.
Between you talking about IQ’s and Mayor Pete calling almost everyone that supports Trump “racists” is it any wonder you are losing?
Angry, bitter people on here. I’m assuming you missed the boat on a few things in your life choices.
Quote: billryan.....He stated the President committed acts that anyone else would have been indicted for, and said he can be indicted after he leaves office.
You left out the part where he corrected himself.
He lied under oath.
Lieu: “I’d like to ask you. The reason again that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of the OLC opinion that you cannot indict a sitting President. Correct?
Meuller: “That is correct” -LIE!
He came back after the break, and after his lawyers told him about the consequences of lying under oath and said:
“I’d like to make a correction.”
"As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening; We did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime."
Big- Big difference.
Quote: billryanMueller appeared old,...
Mick Jagger is a year older.
75 year old Mick Jagger one month after heart valve surgery.
Quote: BozAngry, bitter people on here.
Mmm. Try the mirror.
Quote: BozAnd yet the average American has MADE a lot of money since Trump took office. But of course that doesn’t matter when future Dem voters are stopped at the border, right?
But to play along Doc, how exactly has the average American suffered from the “con”.
Between you talking about IQ’s and Mayor Pete calling almost everyone that supports Trump “racists” is it any wonder you are losing?
Angry, bitter people on here. I’m assuming you missed the boat on a few things in your life choices.
What are you considering s lot of money.
Everywhere I go people talk about how difficult it is to pay their bills.
I am usually envied because I dont complain (because I do well and can pay my bills).
The right is arguing against raises in minimum wage. If people were "making lots of money" they wouldn't be demanding higher wages so drastically as to make it s minimum.
So who is making all this dough you keep talking about?
Quote: darkozWhat are you considering s lot of money.
Everywhere I go people talk about how difficult it is to pay their bills.
I am usually envied because I dont complain (because I do well and can pay my bills).
The right is arguing against raises in minimum wage. If people were "making lots of money" they wouldn't be demanding higher wages so drastically as to make it s minimum.
So who is making all this dough you keep talking about?
Anyone with any type of retirement account.
And you make it too easy for me to assume the people you hang out with.
The minimum wage argument is a joke. Cities can and are raising minimum wage. That said I’m not sure how it benefits anyone. The cost of living in those cities still keeps the poor, poor.
One nutcase suggested $20 his week. I assume you understand every skilled worker would need a similar increase. A current $20 worker will expect $33, across the board.
Where do liberals think this money will come from? Companies will just take it out of shareholders profits? Of course it will be passed along in higher costs. So there is no net gain, only job loss. But keep living in a fantasy world where everyone is handed something.
You and I did it and became financially successful, why can’t others?
Quote: darkoz
Everywhere I go people talk about how difficult it is to pay their bills.
?
Get away from the subway and find
people who have jobs. In my area
whole factory shifts are idle because
they can't find enough workers.
Trucks are sitting because they can't
find drivers. Every fast food joint
and most strip mall stores have
help wanted signs in the window.
Big box stores and gas stations have
cashiers wanted signs.
Quote: rxwineMmm. Try the mirror.
My favorite thing. The mirror is where EVERYONE finds the person why their life turned out as it did. Not some Politician, not some "Funny Uncle", not a school or an employer, only themselves. And the choices they made when no one was looking.
Everyday leads you to many forks in the road, which one we take may not seem important at the time, but they all add up.
How many didn't put a little money aside in Mutual Funds when they became all the rage in the 80's? Or at the peak 15 years ago before the crash? It's all come back and then some.
How many decided to smoke cigarettes their entire life? Do that math.
How many decided it was OK to pay that bill a little late and did something "fun' with the money instead? And how much has that cost them in higher interest rates over the years?
Obama or Trump never did anything to anyone that Hard Work and Common Sense couldn't fix.
Quote: EvenBobGet away from the subway and find
people who have jobs. In my area
whole factory shifts are idle because
they can't find enough workers.
Trucks are sitting because they can't
find drivers. Every fast food joint
and most strip mall stores have
help wanted signs in the window.
Big box stores and gas stations have
cashiers wanted signs.
We are at ZERO Unemployment in America. Anyone who doesn't have a job is unemployable. Either though their choices to not work or their poor job history.
Sadly, it's one of the defenses used to justify the invasion from the South. Remember the "Jobs Americans won't do" nonsense.
Drive around any city and see the "unemployable" standing on the corners. Go to any Bernie Rally in the middle of the day, filled with "unemployable".
Oh but wait, even though I and the potential employees ALL AGREE on paying them $10/hr, the government says “no, you gotta pay $20/hr” or another way “you’re not allowed to work for that cheap”.
So now my business can’t expand, those people don’t have a job, and consumers who enjoy my business are also going to miss out since I can’t expand to reach more consumers.
Quote: BozAnyone with any type of retirement account.
And you make it too easy for me to assume the people you hang out with.
The minimum wage argument is a joke. Cities can and are raising minimum wage. That said I’m not sure how it benefits anyone. The cost of living in those cities still keeps the poor, poor.
One nutcase suggested $20 his week. I assume you understand every skilled worker would need a similar increase. A current $20 worker will expect $33, across the board.
Where do liberals think this money will come from? Companies will just take it out of shareholders profits? Of course it will be passed along in higher costs. So there is no net gain, only job loss. But keep living in a fantasy world where everyone is handed something.
You and I did it and became financially successful, why can’t others?
I actually agree with you on the wage increases only result in price increases which lead to wage increases etc on an inflationary loop.
My point is that regardless of whether minimum wage increases help the economy, there are huge calls for it because people are having difficulty making a decent living
And that does not equate to your claim that so many people are making lots of money off trump
Quote: RSLet’s say I run a small business and I’m putting in 60-70 hour weeks. I’m doing pretty well and looking to expand. So I’m looking for help. I find two people who are willing to work 40 hours a week for $10/hr. That’s going to cost me $40k a year, but because I’m projected at $120k net, I’m now going to make $80k and be able to expand my business. I can live off $30-40k and pump the other $40-50k into expansion. Once I get it up and running, all’s good.
Oh but wait, even though I and the potential employees ALL AGREE on paying them $10/hr, the government says “no, you gotta pay $20/hr” or another way “you’re not allowed to work for that cheap”.
So now my business can’t expand, those people don’t have a job, and consumers who enjoy my business are also going to miss out since I can’t expand to reach more consumers.
Your solution was to hire some illegals but you sent them back to Mexico and built a wall
J/k
Quote: RSLet’s say I run a small business and I’m putting in 60-70 hour weeks. I’m doing pretty well and looking to expand. So I’m looking for help. I find two people who are willing to work 40 hours a week for $10/hr. That’s going to cost me $40k a year, but because I’m projected at $120k net, I’m now going to make $80k and be able to expand my business. I can live off $30-40k and pump the other $40-50k into expansion. Once I get it up and running, all’s good.
Oh but wait, even though I and the potential employees ALL AGREE on paying them $10/hr, the government says “no, you gotta pay $20/hr” or another way “you’re not allowed to work for that cheap”.
So now my business can’t expand, those people don’t have a job, and consumers who enjoy my business are also going to miss out since I can’t expand to reach more consumers.
One thing that has always hurt the employee is that there is only a voluntary requirement to increase the wage as business improves.
But, on the other hand, that’s one of the legitimate purposes of unions, which is the alternative to correcting the situation besides more wage control.
what would make you think that? It's not as if he was homeless for two years in New York. Oh wait, never mind.Quote: BozI’m assuming you missed the boat on a few things in your life choices.
Quote: BozI’m assuming you missed the boat on a few things in your life choices.
Of course not.
I missed the bus
Quote: RSLet’s say I run a small business and I’m putting in 60-70 hour weeks. I’m doing pretty well and looking to expand. So I’m looking for help. I find two people who are willing to work 40 hours a week for $10/hr. That’s going to cost me $40k a year, but because I’m projected at $120k net, I’m now going to make $80k and be able to expand my business. I can live off $30-40k and pump the other $40-50k into expansion. Once I get it up and running, all’s good.
Oh but wait, even though I and the potential employees ALL AGREE on paying them $10/hr, the government says “no, you gotta pay $20/hr” or another way “you’re not allowed to work for that cheap”.
So now my business can’t expand, those people don’t have a job, and consumers who enjoy my business are also going to miss out since I can’t expand to reach more consumers.
One option would be to have enough ingenuity so that the profits you get from these potential employees is equal to or greater than minimum wage (as low as $7.25 in 21 states, over $10 in only 13 states, according to very quick google search). If a business wants to hire employees, but cannot figure out a way to give them enough meaningful work to improve their profits by that little, it's not a very strong business. It would be better for the overall economy to have those guys doing something else with their time, most likely in a different work place.
I like higher minimum wage because it means everyone is going to contribute more. I don't like the government intrusion that it requires. It should be a state issue. And any state that sets it too low is signaling that they are weak and don't offer much. Their federal funding should be cut off in response. I am sure both of the typical political sides would be highly offended with that, which leads me to believe there might be some merit to that solution.
Quote: darkozI actually agree with you on the wage increases only result in price increases which lead to wage increases etc on an inflationary loop.
My point is that regardless of whether minimum wage increases help the economy, there are huge calls for it because people are having difficulty making a decent living
And that does not equate to your claim that so many people are making lots of money off trump
Lots of people are making lots of money! Just not the high school dropout, no motivation, no work ethic bottom segment of society. There are 'huge calls for it' because it is the Democrat platform that true success will be punished, and it is up to the government to prop up the people with few employable skills. An RN makes $80k a year for a 40 hour week. Go to school. Get a college degree. Get a job. Or don't get a college degree. Get a job. You are telling me there aren't waitress jobs begging that you can make $50k a year? Car salesman jobs? Plumbers? Face..... MAILMEN?
I went into my local Burger King many months ago. I wondered how they could make money paying $11 an hour to the 7 kids working there. They couldn't. Closed. Can I say if they were able to pay $8 an hour it would still be open? Its around $180 a day......
Quote: SOOPOOLots of people are making lots of money! Just not the high school dropout, no motivation, no work ethic bottom segment of society. There are 'huge calls for it' because it is the Democrat platform that true success will be punished, and it is up to the government to prop up the people with few employable skills. An RN makes $80k a year for a 40 hour week. Go to school. Get a college degree. Get a job. Or don't get a college degree. Get a job. You are telling me there aren't waitress jobs begging that you can make $50k a year? Car salesman jobs? Plumbers? Face..... MAILMEN?
I went into my local Burger King many months ago. I wondered how they could make money paying $11 an hour to the 7 kids working there. They couldn't. Closed. Can I say if they were able to pay $8 an hour it would still be open? Its around $180 a day......
$50,000 a year waitress jobs?
And ur burger king couldn't stay open with just $11 wages?
Where is this part of America u live in?
Quote: darkoz$50,000 a year waitress jobs?
And ur burger king couldn't stay open with just $11 wages?
Where is this part of America u live in?
I live in Buffalo. Just had 6 of us go out to dinner. I'm a stingy tipper. Total bill was $480. My part was $160. Tip $25. So just my table for this waitress was probably $85. Let's say she had just 4 such tables for her entire shift. I think that breaks $100k per year but I'm a tad lazy right now.... My local pizza/italian place turns over tables every 60-90 minutes. Cut the bill to $160 and that's still $25 a table. Easily a dozen such bills for a waitress. That surpasses $50k without batting an eyelash, remembering they also get a small hourly wage as well.
Edit.... forgot I have a friend who serves drinks at an airport bar. She told us she makes $70k a year..... less than 40 hours a week....
Quote: SOOPOOI live in Buffalo. Just had 6 of us go out to dinner. I'm a stingy tipper. Total bill was $480. My part was $160. Tip $25. So just my table for this waitress was probably $85. Let's say she had just 4 such tables for her entire shift. I think that breaks $100k per year but I'm a tad lazy right now.... My local pizza/italian place turns over tables every 60-90 minutes. Cut the bill to $160 and that's still $25 a table. Easily a dozen such bills for a waitress. That surpasses $50k without batting an eyelash, remembering they also get a small hourly wage as well.
Edit.... forgot I have a friend who serves drinks at an airport bar. She told us she makes $70k a year..... less than 40 hours a week....
But those are tip jobs.
Her salary from the restaurant is not $50k a year.
I doubt your airport bartender is paid $70k as salary. Without tips their income is quite lower i imagine
So wages need minimum if the only way to survive is with accompanying tips
What kind of phone do they have, is it a flip phone?Quote: darkozEverywhere I go people talk about how difficult it is to pay their bills.....
If these people are your friends, try some tough love with them. The truth is, if they were worth more money, other employers would be trying to steal them. At the end of my career, I had to hide to get time off. If I could work now, I'd have several jobs by the end of next week, and I wouldn't be complaining about the pay.Quote:I am usually envied because I dont complain (because I do well and can pay my bills).
The right is arguing against raises in minimum wage. If people were "making lots of money" they wouldn't be demanding higher wages so drastically as to make it s minimum.
So who is making all this dough you keep talking about?
What society doesn't seem to want to acknowledge is, making it a law to pay higher minimum wage to people who's skills don't command higher pay, is killing the old and infirm, and rewarding those with such minimum caliber that people can walk or swim here from foreign shores, not even speak our language and still compete with them. Disastrous for the country, and punishing the old who can no longer get out the door to fend for themselves.
Quote: TomGOne option would be to have enough ingenuity so that the profits you get from these potential employees is equal to or greater than minimum wage (as low as $7.25 in 21 states, over $10 in only 13 states, according to very quick google search). If a business wants to hire employees, but cannot figure out a way to give them enough meaningful work to improve their profits by that little, it's not a very strong business. It would be better for the overall economy to have those guys doing something else with their time, most likely in a different work place.
I like higher minimum wage because it means everyone is going to contribute more. I don't like the government intrusion that it requires. It should be a state issue. And any state that sets it too low is signaling that they are weak and don't offer much. Their federal funding should be cut off in response. I am sure both of the typical political sides would be highly offended with that, which leads me to believe there might be some merit to that solution.
Why should a business have to have enough enguiniety(sp?) to pay employees above some arbitrary minimum wage? If both parties agree & consent, who the hell is the government to interfere? Who cares how “strong” the business model is based on some arbitrary BS? McDonald’s would be considered a terrible business model if minimum wage went to $100/hr....but the reality is, McDonald’s has a good business model because they’re successful and people are willing to work there (that’s the only thing that matters). Adding this extra crap just makes everything worse.
Sure, my prospective employees may be able to get a better job paying $20/hr and do better for the economy. If that’s the case, then they can do that. Given that they want to work for me, well, kinda tough to argue they should be working somewhere else....otherwise they would be....
Let’s just make minimum wage $100...no, let’s make it $1,000!!!! That’ll surely “fix the problem”! You can buy a good car after 5 days of work and a house after 20 days of work. What could go wrong?
Let’s try another way of explaining how absolutely retarded minimum wage is. Instead, imagine Best Buy selling laptops for $400 each. I go to Best Buy and hey, I want to buy a laptop. I get a laptop, Best Buy makes money, all is well. Oh but wait, government steps in and says “you can’t sell laptops for $400! You can only sell them for $200 maximum!” I, the consumer might initially say, “hell yeah, laptops are cheaper, this is awesome!” Unfortunately, Best Buy can no longer afford to sell laptops because their margin is too low (or possibly negative) now. So they stop selling laptops.
So what, should Best Buy get enough ingenuity to be able to sell laptops for $200/ea? Omegalul
The fact of the matter is that even the I.R.S. considers tips a form of "living wages" and thusly taxes them to a certain degree.Quote: darkozBut those are tip jobs. Her salary from the restaurant is not $50k a year. I doubt your airport bartender is paid $70k as salary. Without tips their income is quite lower i imagine So wages need minimum if the only way to survive is with accompanying tips
