Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: MaxPenI'm sure all the people who support letting the caravaners march across the border ILLEGALLY don't have locks on their doors.
My door was unlocked last nite
I'm not some snowflake conservative locked in a underground bunker armed to the hilt yelling about a fake invasion that will destroy America.
Reality
Regardless of who crosses the border, my life will remain the exact comfortable same.
Its amazing how the right has turned into total snowflakes yelling invasion
Does the right have balls. No. Acting like scared frightened children. The boogeyman is coming over the border and straight to your underground bunker
ROTFL
I decided to see how the emails compared between the parties, so I made a very small donation ($5) to the Democrat party to see what happened. It took a few days, but the output from them soon matched that from the GOP.
I didn't like the tactics of either party. Mostly, it was trying to scare people into not voting for the other side. I guess it makes sense that it bugged me because I would rather see people work together with a leaning toward governing from the moderate to slightly conservative point of view, so I would want people telling me in their emails how they were going to get things done.
Quote: terapined
Reality
Regardless of who crosses the border, my life will remain the exact comfortable same.
Because you're entitled to that, right. My hope is that you can continue living in your sheltered ignorance.
Quote: MaxPenBecause you're entitled to that, right. My hope is that you can continue living in your sheltered ignorance.
you are scared and frightened of the "invasion"
I get it
lol
Quote: terapinedyou are scared and frightened of the "invasion"
I get it
lol
Now you're just being a little b1@tch.
Quote: terapinedIts amazing how the right has turned into total snowflakes yelling invasion
Does the right have balls. No. Acting like scared frightened children. The boogeyman is coming over the border and straight to your underground bunker
ROTFL
It's been that way since 9/11, at least.
Quote: MaxPenNow you're just being a little b1@tch.
You used the word "invasion"
Man up about using that absurd word to describe whats going on.
Reality
There is no invasion
It aint d day normandy at the border
Quote: MaxPenNow you're just being a little b1@tch.
This is coming from the guy who seems deathly afraid of the barefoot little Latin girls crossing the border in their Disney t-shirts.
Quote: ams288This is coming from the guy who seems deathly afraid of the barefoot little Latin girls crossing the border in their Disney t-shirts.
You don't understand... that little latin girl is going to take his job yet somehow simultaneously be a lazy welfare mooch, and then grow up to vote for a woman. A WOMAN!! OR MAYBE EVEN A BLACK!
WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!
Quote: MaxPensheltered ignorance.
You believe Michelle Obama is a man and her husband was born in Kenya.
Nuff said.
Quote: terapinedYou used the word "invasion"
Man up about using that absurd word to describe whats going on.
Reality
There is no invasion
It aint d day normandy at the border
Invasion in this instance means; an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain. Quit being so dramatic.
Quote: MaxPenQuit being so dramatic.
...said the Drama Queen.
EDIT: BAHAHHAHAHA! Migrants are giving up.
GOP -- "It's an invasion!! Run for your lives!! Close the border!! Build the wall!! Scary brown people!! Ahhhhhh!!!"
Two days later:
Migrants -- "Screw this, I'm going home."
Quote: TigerWu...said the Drama Queen.
EDIT: BAHAHHAHAHA! Migrants are giving up.
GOP -- "It's an invasion!! Run for your lives!! Close the border!! Build the wall!! Scary brown people!! Ahhhhhh!!!"
Two days later:
Migrants -- "Screw this, I'm going home."
Another Trump success despite people in this country that want to shoot themselves in the foot.
Quote: MaxPenAnother Trump success despite people in this country that want to shoot themselves in the foot.
Why do you want to take accomplishments away from all the hard working men and women in uniform who prevented the migrants from crossing the border and give them to a man who had absolutely nothing to do with it?
"The majority of immigrants settling in the U.S. without authorization are first coming to the country legally, raising questions about the effectiveness of President Donald Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border.
Crossing the border is not the way "the large majority of persons now become undocumented," the Center for Migration Studies (CMS) said in a recent report. Two-thirds of those who joined the undocumented population did so by entering with a valid visa and then overstaying their period of admission, the center repored.
Overstays have exceeded those entering illegally every year since 2007, and there have been half a million more overstays than illegal entries since 2007."
I hate to bring facts into a cat fight.
I mean, even our own President thinks America sucks. It was his whole campaign theme.
Quote: rxwineExcept for the red Putin trees, it doesn't look bad.
I like it, too. I don't understand what all the controversy is about. Buncha whiners.
Quote:WASHINGTON, D.C.—Addressing a crowd at a lucrative speaking engagement Tuesday evening, former president Barack Obama slammed President Trump for his "inhumane" use of tear gas at the border earlier this week, pointing out that a drone strike would have done the job much more effectively.
Obama ripped into Trump for using tear gas when a simple deadly drone strike would have sufficed.
"Whenever I had a problem with foreigners, I never turned to inhumane methods like tear gas—instead, I just took 'em out with a well-placed Hellfire II," he said, drawing cheers. "It's a much cleaner, faster method of dealing with non-Americans—and even the occassional American citizen," he added.
"It's great—you just call it in and wham, bam, thank you MQ-9 Reaper. No muss, no fuss," he said. He added that while the Border Patrol did use tear gas fairly often during his term in office, it "didn't count" because the media wouldn't cover it.
Obama grinned and winked at his audience, then dropped the microphone.
The crowd then lept to its feet to applaud the "compassionate" ex-commander in chief, weeping and yelling "We miss you!"
Quote: FleaswatterObama Blasts Trump's Use Of Tear Gas On Foreigners: 'Frankly, I Would Have Used A Drone Strike'
Good ol' Deporter-in-Chief....
#Survivor
#BelieveAllMen
Quote: MaxPenInvasion in this instance means; an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain. Quit being so dramatic.
Most of us will simply lock our doors and close the fence to our yard and be perfectly fine regardless of what violence the two sides engage in along the border. Trump supporters are so entitled and so helpless that they can’t take any personal responsibility and need the government to send the Army to save them from anything that makes them scared
Quote: MaxPenNow you're just being a little b1@tch.
Personal insult -- three-day suspension.
As a reminder, masking and misspelling insults and profanity does not provide immunity.
Quote: TomGMost of us will simply lock our doors and close the fence to our yard and be perfectly fine regardless of what violence the two sides engage in along the border. Trump supporters are so entitled and so helpless that they can’t take any personal responsibility and need the government to send the Army to save them from anything that makes them scared
Wtf are you talking about? Is it not one of the government's main jobs to protect its citizens? If you think this should be a personal responsibility, then you're going to see people on the border shooting and killing the invaders.....and although I'm no psychic, I'd predict the left wouldn't be too happy about that.
Quote: RSWtf are you talking about? Is it not one of the government's main jobs to protect its citizens?
Absolutely true. But every possible way the government could protect us more in one area means making a trade off where it protects us less somewhere else. For example, the more the government protects us with socialized medicine, the less it is able to protect our free trade (by either taking in more taxes or more debt). A police state would mean more protection from some crime, but less protection for personal freedom. Many of the protections that Trump supporters feel entitled to could easily be handled by taking on personal responsibility and accountability. By giving up those values and asking the government to take over means we are less protected elsewhere
Quote: RSIf you think this should be a personal responsibility, then you're going to see people on the border shooting and killing the invaders.....and although I'm no psychic, I'd predict the left wouldn't be too happy about that.
Is that really what Trump supporters think it means to have personal responsibility? Is that what they think Trump means by Make America Great Again? They’re even more deranged than I ever could have thought.
What did Trump supporters hear?
Quote: TomGAbsolutely true. But every possible way the government could protect us more in one area means making a trade off where it protects us less somewhere else. For example, the more the government protects us with socialized medicine, the less it is able to protect our free trade (by either taking in more taxes or more debt). A police state would mean more protection from some crime, but less protection for personal freedom. Many of the protections that Trump supporters feel entitled to could easily be handled by taking on personal responsibility and accountability. By giving up those values and asking the government to take over means we are less protected elsewhere
Instead of talking in circles, why don't you say what you're thinking? Per the bolded, what do you have in mind then, for taking on personal responsibility and accountability when it comes to protecting our nation from invaders? Also, how does that make us less protected somewhere else? As a bonus -- what is that "somewhere else" where we are now less protected?
Quote: TomGIs that really what Trump supporters think it means to have personal responsibility? Is that what they think Trump means by Make America Great Again? They’re even more deranged than I ever could have thought.
I don't know what you mean. You're the one harking about personal responsibility & accountability on something that I believe is (almost) solely the government's job to do, which is to protect our borders.
Thankfully we have a strong President looking out for tax paying Americans who are sick and tired of their hard earned tax dollars being wasted. Too many benefits going to lazy able bodied Americans who want others to pay for their bad life choices.
Turn around and go back to where you came from, and stop trying to jump good people doing immigration the right way. And STOP f’ing like rabbits when you can’t feed them. Have some control, can you?
Quote: TomGAbsolutely true. But every possible way the government could protect us more in one area means making a trade off where it protects us less somewhere else. For example, the more the government protects us with socialized medicine, the less it is able to protect our free trade (by either taking in more taxes or more debt). A police state would mean more protection from some crime, but less protection for personal freedom. Many of the protections that Trump supporters feel entitled to could easily be handled by taking on personal responsibility and accountability. By giving up those values and asking the government to take over means we are less protected elsewhere
Is that really what Trump supporters think it means to have personal responsibility? Is that what they think Trump means by Make America Great Again? They’re even more deranged than I ever could have thought.
Am I really the only one who can hear the dog whistles?
A guy who married immigrants twice, son of immigrants, 4 of his 5 children were born of women not yet citizens, 3rd wife chain-migrated her family, puts an army on the border WITH THE BROWN PEOPLE to keep families from seeking asylum, and threatens to close the border permanently.
Why isn't the army on the north border, too?
And that south border has been running at a net loss for years -more going south than north- and yes, the large number of illegals DOES matter, those who simply over stayed their LEGAL visas, which all the guards on the border can't possibly effect.
I'm in the same situation as the Trump children, actually. My mom was not naturalized until all of us were born (in the US). But I'm also not trying to close off the single most American characteristic, that of offering immigrants opportunity or sanctuary, either.
Immigrants built this country. Immigrants have historically and still provide a huge portion of the innovation, new businesses, and worthwhile labor force here.
The hypocrisy and xenophobia continues to astound me, not to mention the inhumanity and racial bias this Administration continues to enforce . Turns out we don't need to look elsewhere for sh!thole countries.
We have met the enemy, and they are us. -Pogo
A big, juicy, triple patty nothing burger. With extra bacon.
Quote: beachbumbabsAm I really the only one who can hear the dog whistles?
A guy who married immigrants twice, son of immigrants, 4 of his 5 children were born of women not yet citizens, 3rd wife chain-migrated her family, puts an army on the border WITH THE BROWN PEOPLE to keep families from seeking asylum, and threatens to close the border permanently.
Why isn't the army on the north border, too?
And that south border has been running at a net loss for years -more going south than north- and yes, the large number of illegals DOES matter, those who simply over stayed their LEGAL visas, which all the guards on the border can't possibly effect.
I'm in the same situation as the Trump children, actually. My mom was not naturalized until all of us were born (in the US). But I'm also not trying to close off the single most American characteristic, that of offering immigrants opportunity or sanctuary, either.
Immigrants built this country. Immigrants have historically and still provide a huge portion of the innovation, new businesses, and worthwhile labor force here.
The hypocrisy and xenophobia continues to astound me, not to mention the inhumanity and racial bias this Administration continues to enforce . Turns out we don't need to look elsewhere for sh!thole countries.
We have met the enemy, and they are us. -Pogo
Sorry, we are not the enemy. We are the place everyone wants to come to and be, the greatest country ever on the face of the Earth.
Why not come out and put your plan out there. Should we leave anyone and everyone from Central America that claims they are at risk in? What about México? Why even have rules and borders? 8000? 80000? 800000? What’s your limit?
Not going to use the word you did since the Wiz doesn’t want it, but if we really are the type country you said we are, why do these “immigrants “ even want to come to it? And does that make them attracted to it?
As long as we have able bodied people without jobs in this country, we don’t have jobs for them. Look at our inner cities, we already have people not getting enough to eat.
Sorry we can’t solve the worlds problems, go back home. Not our problem.
Amazing what some will do for political power. Using pity as tool, pathetic.
Just another banner day for America.
Quote: billryanLess than an hour after declaring this was a good time for a meeting with Putin, he cancels it via Twitter.
Just another banner day for America.
So did you always hate America, only only once Trump was elected?
Did you hate fellow Americans who voted for Bush, or only those who voted for Trump?
Did you root for the stock market to fall your entire adult life or only after Trump was elected?
How are you celebrating this “banner day” for America?
Thank You for your service to this country!
I don't speak for anyone else, but yes, I am my brother's keeper. My Grandfathers fled political violence to start a fantastic American tradition. We have a debt to honor our ancestors who dreamt of a better life for us.
Quote: billryanAnd they will know we are Christians by our love, by our love, yes they'll know we are Christians by our love.
I don't speak for anyone else, but yes, I am my brother's keeper. My Grandfathers fled political violence to start a fantastic American tradition. We have a debt to honor our ancestors who dreamt of a better life for us.
In other words, open the border, let them in, and everyone who comes next because we are soft. We will figure out how and where to feed, house and pay for their upkeep later.
Wow, I never expected that from you. I see you as more fiscally responsible than that.
I'm optimistic though. His way of thinking and those that support him are a dying breed. Good. Our planet is gasping for air. We need leaders who are going to do more than just hand out paper towels and rakes.
Quote: SteverinosWe have a President who openly admitted that manufacturing a border crisis is good for him and a win for his party. Yes, a current sitting POTUS, has openly admitted that manufacturing a humanitarian crisis at our border is a winning political issue for him. Let that sink in.
I'm optimistic though. His way of thinking and those that support him are a dying breed. Good. Our planet is gasping for air. We need leaders who are going to do more than just hand out paper towels and rakes.
I'm still waiting for my rake. Did you get yours already?
Quote: BozSorry, we are not the enemy. We are the place everyone wants to come to and be, the greatest country ever on the face of the Earth.
Why not come out and put your plan out there. Should we leave anyone and everyone from Central America that claims they are at risk in? What about México? Why even have rules and borders? 8000? 80000? 800000? What’s your limit?
Not going to use the word you did since the Wiz doesn’t want it, but if we really are the type country you said we are, why do these “immigrants “ even want to come to it? And does that make them attracted to it?
As long as we have able bodied people without jobs in this country, we don’t have jobs for them. Look at our inner cities, we already have people not getting enough to eat.
Sorry we can’t solve the worlds problems, go back home. Not our problem.
Amazing what some will do for political power. Using pity as tool, pathetic.
Jobs are going begging everywhere in this country. There are help wanted signs in every fast food place, most stores, lots of other places.
First generation immigrants are more productive and more law-abiding than native Americans as a whole, and it's not close. They pay taxes, they create jobs, they work towards becoming citizens. Perhaps they're so careful of their new homes because they paid so dearly to have them.
I'm in a large group of activists, and one of the most popular posts tends to be the pictures new citizens post of their swearing-in ceremonies.
You're buying a small-minded xenophobic viewpoint of America that only exists in the exaggerated accounts of a small minority of cases. The vast majority of immigrants don't deserve suspicion or prejudice.
Quote: beachbumbabsAm I really the only one who can hear the dog whistles?
A guy who married immigrants twice, son of immigrants, 4 of his 5 children were born of women not yet citizens, 3rd wife chain-migrated her family, puts an army on the border WITH THE BROWN PEOPLE to keep families from seeking asylum, and threatens to close the border permanently.
Were his wives illegal immigrants or legal immigrants? Are you saying you don’t think the southern border should be protected? (Rhetorical question.)
Quote: bbbWhy isn't the army on the north border, too?
And that south border has been running at a net loss for years -more going south than north- and yes, the large number of illegals DOES matter, those who simply over stayed their LEGAL visas, which all the guards on the border can't possibly effect.
I have a feeling there are more illegals coming in from the southern border than the northern border. Same with drugs and criminals.
Quote: bbbI'm in the same situation as the Trump children, actually. My mom was not naturalized until all of us were born (in the US). But I'm also not trying to close off the single most American characteristic, that of offering immigrants opportunity or sanctuary, either.
Offering immigrants opportunity or sanctuary isn’t the single most American characteristic. Melting pot? Sure. But don’t confuse the two.
Quote: bbbImmigrants built this country. Immigrants have historically and still provide a huge portion of the innovation, new businesses, and worthwhile labor force here.
Yeah, years ago immigrants built this country. But there’s a bit of a difference between settling the new frontier where there was basically nothing here versus now. No way do immigrants from the south provide a huge portion of innovation nor new businesses. Chinese and (dot) Indian immigrants — sure, but that’s because they tend to get into technological fields and not lettuce fields....and those who do come here tend to have money.
Quote: bbbThe hypocrisy and xenophobia continues to astound me, not to mention the inhumanity and racial bias this Administration continues to enforce . Turns out we don't need to look elsewhere for sh!thole countries.
We have met the enemy, and they are us. -Pogo
What hypocrisy?
Lol @ s***hole countries, as I have a feeling there aren’t many people flocking to Mexico, Honduras, and other southern countries.
Quote: beachbumbabsThe vast majority of immigrants don't deserve suspicion or prejudice.
Of legal immigrants, yes. But just the way illegal immigrants' "American experience" starts, by committing a crime, I would say they at least deserve suspicion.
Let's take the best case scenario, "I want to sneak into the US because I want to work hard and make money". I'd say this is the most likely motive for most illegals. They decide that our laws are not as important as their self interests as the starting point. Why would you think they would not have the same rationale for other acts in their lives?
Feed the hungry
Give water to the thirsty
Clothe the naked
Shelter the homeless
Visit the sick
Visit the imprisoned and rescue those in need
Bury the dead.
Instruct the ignorant and council those in doubt.
That you do to the least of my brother's, that you do unto me.
Quote: RSWere his wives illegal immigrants or legal immigrants?
There is documentation showing she was working here illegally - over stayed her visa or something, when they met or she decided to stay
No, and obviously you know I'm not.Quote:Are you saying you don’t think the southern border should be protected? (Rhetorical question.)
Many of the criminals coming in from outside the country come in or try to from the north. Specifically a group of 5 terrorists that tried to cross from BC in 2001 to blow up the Golden Gate bridge. But many others. IDK the proportion of South vs. North. They don't provide that information to the public as a matter of national security. I would think it's a non-zero amount at both.Quote:
I have a feeling there are more illegals coming in from the southern border than the northern border. Same with drugs and criminals.
Drugs definitely come in from both borders, also in planes and boats rather than over-land routes.
I'm not. I would suggest that you are claiming a difference or definition that's not there.Quote:
Offering immigrants opportunity or sanctuary isn’t the single most American characteristic. Melting pot? Sure. But don’t confuse the two.
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Yeah, years ago immigrants built this country. But there’s a bit of a difference between settling the new frontier where there was basically nothing here versus now. No way do immigrants from the south provide a huge portion of innovation nor new businesses. Chinese and (dot) Indian immigrants — sure, but that’s because they tend to get into technological fields and not lettuce fields....and those who do come here tend to have money.
You're stereotyping by racial and social boundaries. All kinds of southern immigrants create businesses, from restaurants to seamstresses, cobblers, storeowners, lawn services, cleaning service, migrant or itinerant labor, a hundred other things. I've used every one of those latino-owned businesses in the last couple of years. There's a latino tile guy and a white guy, in business for themselves, working in my house as I type this.
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What hypocrisy?
Lol @ s***hole countries, as I have a feeling there aren’t many people flocking to Mexico, Honduras, and other southern countries.
The hypocrisy of being the child of an immigrant, the husband to 2 immigrants, and the father of 4 of his 5 (known) children while their mother was not a citizen, making all the fatuous and ignorant statements and decisions about immigrants that he has made. How is that not obvious?
There are, and have been, more people leaving here for Mexico and other countries south of us, than are coming in, for several years now. It's just a fact. ICE has the numbers.
Simple solution is E-Verify and mandatory Jail Time for anyone up to and including corporate executives of any company that hires an illegal. Knowledge or lack of is not an excuse. Anyone against E-Verify on either side is complacent in allowing criminal activity for personal gain.
And STOP these criminals and their bad hygiene habits from entering the country.
Simple easy solution
#stopillegalsfromdumpingonourfoodsupply
Quote: BozWe now have a Lettuce crisis in this country far beyond the original Romaine issue because some illegal took a dump on the Romaine while working in the fields. You can't find Iceberg or Romaine anywhere and if you can it's triple the price. So because of illegals, now people can't eat healthy and are blowing their budget if they can find some.
Simple solution is E-Verify and mandatory Jail Time for anyone up to and including corporate executives of any company that hires an illegal. Knowledge or lack of is not an excuse. Anyone against E-Verify on either side is complacent in allowing criminal activity for personal gain.
And STOP these criminals and their bad hygiene habits from entering the country.
Simple easy solution
#stopillegalsfromdumpingonourfoodsupply
Quote: ams288
We are so bored now no one even cares that Michael Cohen just pled guilty to arranging russian business deals for trump and lying about them
Quote: darkozWe are so bored now no one even cares that Michael Cohen just pled guilty to arranging russian business deals for trump and lying about them
Oh, we care. It’s a BIG DEAL.
I think the righties are just afraid to talk about it/haven’t gotten any good talking points from Rush yet.
Home sales are down because the average American can’t afford the extra interest that even a 1/2 point places on a 30 Year Mortgage.
I know, damn drones thinking a home is a good idea.
Quote: BozBigger news is the Fed finally realizing they are hurting the middle class with their constant rate hikes.
Home sales are down because the average American can’t afford the extra interest that even a 1/2 point places on a 30 Year Mortgage.
I know, damn drones thinking a home is a good idea.
And yet I suspect if you ran a national newspaper you would not have placed that story on page one and buried the Michael Cohen guilty verdict
Quote: darkozAnd yet I suspect if you ran a national newspaper you would not have placed that story on page one and buried the Michael Cohen guilty verdict
They actually are hurting themselves too because it makes the interest payments on debt increase as well. The estimate of interest on the public debt in FY 19 is estimated to be 364 bilion, up 54 billion from this FY and up from 240 billion in FY 16.
Truth hurts. That increase in interest works out to be about $400 per resident per year. Where is the tea party to protest this out if control spenidng?
