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September 17th, 2018 at 3:59:08 PM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

I for reasons of transparency.




He'd have released his tax returns before being elected if he cared about transparency and his base would have demanded it before voting for him if they cared.
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September 17th, 2018 at 4:44:13 PM permalink
Trans...parency?

Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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September 17th, 2018 at 5:32:24 PM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

It has begun, about time President Trump:

President Trump Issues Immediate Declassification Order of Carter Page FISA Docs


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-34/?kek=top

At the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency, the President has directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to provide for the immediate declassification of the following materials: (1) pages 10-12 and 17-34 of the June 2017 application to the FISA court in the matter of Carter W. Page; (2) all FBI reports of interviews with Bruce G. Ohr prepared in connection with the Russia investigation; and (3) all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all Carter Page FISA applications.

In addition, President Donald J. Trump has directed the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation, without redaction, of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.



Oh, fuff. Transparency. He must be talking about Rudy, because he's as open as Fort Knox. Sunshine has never hit his business dealings.

As to releasing personal texts, that's pretty rude. Petty, too. But gotta get people talking about something besides Manafort, Kavanaugh, Flynn, or other news bad for Trump.
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September 17th, 2018 at 5:57:13 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Oh, fuff. Transparency. He must be talking about Rudy, because he's as open as Fort Knox. Sunshine has never hit his business dealings.

As to releasing personal texts, that's pretty rude. Petty, too. But gotta get people talking about something besides Manafort, Kavanaugh, Flynn, or other news bad for Trump.



Keep ignoring everything except news about Manafort, Kavanaugh, Flynn, or other news bad for Trump.
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September 17th, 2018 at 7:10:49 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Oh, fuff. Transparency. He must be talking about Rudy, because he's as open as Fort Knox. Sunshine has never hit his business dealings.

As to releasing personal texts, that's pretty rude. Petty, too. But gotta get people talking about something besides Manafort, Kavanaugh, Flynn, or other news bad for Trump.



Such as reducing the refugee cap to 30,000, the lowest it has been since the program began? (I am sure some will say it is still 30,000 too many)

Or imposing a 10% tariff on 200bn worth of Chinese goods, going to 25% next year?

Or how part of the new NAFTA is supposed to increase wages to $16 an hour for certain jobs - in Mexican factories? (By the way, it will still cost more to manufacture in the United States - this just raises consumer prices and sends more money to Mexico.)
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September 17th, 2018 at 8:04:05 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

The Presidency is a popularity contest.

Half the population doesn't know s*** about politics, and the other half are single issue voters.

It doesn't matter who has what qualifications.

That's why Trump won.

You ever see those news stories where a dog is legitimately elected mayor of some small town? Same principle.

An ugly horriable lying lesbo skank(I could go on and on )won the popular vote.
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September 17th, 2018 at 8:15:42 PM permalink
Obama promised the most transparent
WH in history. He delivered the most
secret and opaque in history. Now we
know why, It was full of crooks and schemers.
Ever in a room and when you turn the
light on, the cockroaches run for cover?
That's will happen when the documents
are released.

What's funny is, all the people who watch
CNN/MS have no idea who Strzok and Page
are or what any of this is about. I've been
hearing those names every single day
for 18 months, that's where the real news
is. It's never been Russia Russia Russia.
That was their deflection, and CNN/MS
fell for it.
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September 18th, 2018 at 4:46:00 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Obama promised the most transparent
WH in history. He delivered the most
secret and opaque in history. Now we
know why, It was full of crooks and schemers.
Ever in a room and when you turn the
light on, the cockroaches run for cover?
That's will happen when the documents
are released.

What's funny is, all the people who watch
CNN/MS have no idea who Strzok and Page
are or what any of this is about. I've been
hearing those names every single day
for 18 months, that's where the real news
is. It's never been Russia Russia Russia.
That was their deflection, and CNN/MS
fell for it.



I didnt know you had your own comedy central show
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September 18th, 2018 at 5:50:23 AM permalink
BREAKING: We now have a description of Donald's small penis, thanks to Stormy Daniels's new book.

Quote:

She describes Trump’s penis as “smaller than average” but “not freakishly small.”

“He knows he has an unusual penis,” Daniels writes. “It has a huge mushroom head. Like a toadstool… I lay there, annoyed that I was getting f***ed by a guy with Yeti pubes and a dick like the mushroom character in Mario Kart... It may have been the least impressive sex I’d ever had, but clearly, he didn’t share that opinion.”



Think that's TMI? Then don't vote for Presidential candidates with a penchant for raw-dogging porn stars!
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September 18th, 2018 at 5:53:36 AM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

Keep ignoring everything except news about Manafort, Kavanaugh, Flynn, or other news bad for Trump.



Quote: EvenBob

What's funny is, all the people who watch
CNN/MS




Why is Flea and EB going crazy over the news people on the left follow
I don't get it
I am sure Fox and Breibart are declaring Trump the greatest thing since sliced bread
I simply yawn. I could care less what Fox or Breibart report
Yet EB and Flea go crazy on what the left watches as news
Really weird
I bet EB watches more CNN then I do. lol
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
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September 18th, 2018 at 7:06:44 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Why is Flea and EB going crazy over the news people on the left follow
I don't get it
I am sure Fox and Breibart are declaring Trump the greatest thing since sliced bread
I simply yawn. I could care less what Fox or Breibart report
Yet EB and Flea go crazy on what the left watches as news
Really weird
I bet EB watches more CNN then I do. lol



You really seem to have an irrational obsession with what Evenbob and I post and what news sources we may or may not utilize.

I truly feel sorry and embarrassed for you.
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September 18th, 2018 at 7:29:53 AM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

You really seem to have an irrational obsession with what Evenbob and I post and what news sources we may or may not utilize.

I truly feel sorry and embarrassed for you.



I truly feel sorry and embarrassed for you feeling sorry and embarrassed for lefties who feel sorry and embarrassed for righties who watch way too much leftie news and sorry and embarrassing FoxNews
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September 18th, 2018 at 7:38:37 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I truly feel sorry and embarrassed for you feeling sorry and embarrassed for lefties who feel sorry and embarrassed for righties who watch way too much leftie news and sorry and embarrassing FoxNews



Unless there is some breaking story, don't know why people watch cable news
The only thing remotely interesting on cable news is Katy Tur's Phish references
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September 18th, 2018 at 7:42:58 AM permalink
One of the weirdest things about the Trump era is how CNN has replaced MSNBC as the main source of all media evil in the minds of so many righties.

I'm a leftie, I can't stand CNN. Too many damn people on the screen at one time.
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September 18th, 2018 at 9:25:11 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Obama promised the most transparent
WH in history. He delivered the most
secret and opaque in history. Now we
know why, It was full of crooks and schemers.
Ever in a room and when you turn the
light on, the cockroaches run for cover?
That's will happen when the documents
are released.

What's funny is, all the people who watch
CNN/MS have no idea who Strzok and Page
are or what any of this is about. I've been
hearing those names every single day
for 18 months, that's where the real news
is. It's never been Russia Russia Russia.
That was their deflection, and CNN/MS
fell for it.



This post reminds me of when I was coaching my sons' youth basketball teams. There was one season where we had a kid on our team new to basketball and extremely shy. He was a great kid but never said anything, didn't really have a grasp on the movement of the game (I mean, these were 8 and 9 year olds, not many of them did yet, lol), and was just overall kind of spacey on the court, looking lost most of the time. After one of our games, my dad walked up to me and said, "I don't know what world that kid is in, but it's not this one."

I don't know what world you live in EvenBob, but it's not this one.
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September 18th, 2018 at 10:01:21 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

One of the weirdest things about the Trump era is how CNN has replaced MSNBC as the main source of all media evil in the minds of so many righties.



I know, and it has such low ratings, so almost no one is watching it or even paying attention.

But then again, in the righties' world, Hillary Clinton also seems to be the President.
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September 18th, 2018 at 10:17:48 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I know, and it has such low ratings, so almost no one is watching it or even paying attention.

But then again, in the righties' world, Hillary Clinton also seems to be the President.



I watch CNN. AC and Chris Cuomo are both excellent journalists.
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September 18th, 2018 at 11:01:32 AM permalink
I’ve been studying trumps golf count, and there are some patterns. Anyways, you guys keep talking about important stuff.
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September 18th, 2018 at 11:24:02 AM permalink
There is a lesson in this whole Kavanaugh issue that future future accusers who wish to stay anonymous should learn...but they won't, most likely.

It is a secret only as long as you are the only one that knows.

I have no idea what her thought process was on deciding to writer her initial letter or to bring back her repressed memory, but once she told someone--anyone--there was a chance of her being identified. Once whoever it was that put the story out in order to slow down or end the nomination did so, the only way it would end is with her identity being known. Yeah, I guess Kavanaugh could have just stepped away, but the chances of that happening were slim to none.

I still don't think Senator Feinstein was an honest broker in the whole situation nor did she help the accuser if she did not let her know what was going to happen.

We'll see how it plays out, but right now they can't even nail down her appearance on Monday in either an open or closed heating.
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September 18th, 2018 at 11:43:14 AM permalink
Today they're walking back Kavanaugh's claim yesterday that he WAS NOT AT THAT PARTY! (Even though she couldn't even remember exactly when or where the party was....)

Now they're saying he "wasn't at a party like the one she describes."
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September 18th, 2018 at 3:38:32 PM permalink
I'm noticing a pattern in some of Hollywood's attacks on Trump.

Jim Carey has been awfully loud lately (not that he ever supported Trump)...and he's got a new TV show...

Tom Arnold gets "attacked" by Mark Burnett (okay, who knows yet what really happened) at pre-Emmy party after a social media war between the tow...but the "big incident" happens as Arnold is getting ready for hsi new show about Trump Tapes to come out.
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September 18th, 2018 at 3:45:30 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

but the "big incident" happens as Arnold is getting ready for hsi new show about Trump Tapes to come out.



Geez, he's going to have a show about that?

That's going to be a bigger disappointment than the alien autopsy show Fox hyped up back in the '90's.
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September 18th, 2018 at 5:04:30 PM permalink
The rumor is that Tom Arnold got ahold of the Apprentice tapes and handed them over to Ronan Farrow. That’s what spurred Mark Burnett’s attack.

Just a rumor....

Tom Arnold doesn’t seem like the most reliable source.

After that rumor spread, Ronan tweeted:

Quote: @RonanFarrow

A quick reminder that I don’t comment on reporting I haven’t published, and if you’re reading about my work from secondary sources you’re often not getting the full or correct story—especially in cases where parties have an interest in downplaying or otherwise spinning.

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September 19th, 2018 at 10:21:44 AM permalink
I am really amazed by this Women accusing Kavanaugh of assault and attempted rape
All she is dong is telling the truth
Just the truth
Because she is telling the truth, she cant go home
She cant even sleep in her onw bed simply for telling the truth
Just really sad that in this country, you can no longer go home simply for being truthful
Furious conservatives have posted her personal address on the internet.
That's really sad that some conservatives will post a personal address of a crime victim simply due to politics
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September 19th, 2018 at 10:35:13 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

I am really amazed by this Women accusing Kavanaugh of assault and attempted rape
All she is dong is telling the truth
Just the truth
Because she is telling the truth, she cant go home
She cant even sleep in her onw bed simply for telling the truth
Just really sad that in this country, you can no longer go home simply for being truthful
Furious conservatives have posted her personal address on the internet.
That's really sad that some conservatives will post a personal address of a crime victim simply due to politics



I don't understand the logic of people like that.

If she's lying, the investigation will determine there's no evidence, the case is dismissed, and Kavanaugh's name is cleared.

If she's telling the truth, Kavanaugh should be held responsible for whatever crimes or wrongdoings he committed.

It's a win-win situation. Why would anybody not want that?

Same reason I don't understand why people (especially Trump) are against the whole Russia investigation. Multiple crimes have already been uncovered and people have been found guilty.

It will ultimately either clear Trump's name or find him guilty of some crimes and he gets punished.

Why don't people want criminals to be punished for their crimes? Why don't people want innocent victims to have their name cleared?
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September 19th, 2018 at 10:50:01 AM permalink
The pessimist in me sees this as a delaying tactic.

They want an FBI investigation before she testifies? The FBI doesn't want to, but if they did it would delay the process indefinitely.

The Democrats want to delay in order to have a shot to win more seats before the vote.

I also think the republicans should have been consistent with their new policy - it is x days before an election, therefore the people should have their say. In this case, x at the start was already less than the number of days they used for Obama, so the people should have been given a chance to vote on who would be giving the president their advice and consent.
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September 19th, 2018 at 11:23:04 AM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

They want an FBI investigation before she testifies? The FBI doesn't want to, but if they did it would delay the process indefinitely.



"The FBI doesn't want to" is just a Trump-spewed lie.

What *does* the FBI want to do? It's irrelevant.

Kavanaugh is Trump's nominee, and Trump is the one who could request the FBI reopen their background check on him. There are obvious reasons that Trump and the GOP don't want that to happen...
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September 19th, 2018 at 2:25:19 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

I am really amazed by this Women accusing Kavanaugh of assault and attempted rape
All she is dong is telling the truth
Just the truth
Because she is telling the truth, she cant go home
She cant even sleep in her onw bed simply for telling the truth
Just really sad that in this country, you can no longer go home simply for being truthful
Furious conservatives have posted her personal address on the internet.
That's really sad that some conservatives will post a personal address of a crime victim simply due to politics



How do you possibly know she is telling the truth? Isn't she known to be a big anti-Trump feminist liberal? You see no reason for her to lie?
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September 19th, 2018 at 2:45:54 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

How do you possibly know she is telling the truth? Isn't she known to be a big anti-Trump feminist liberal? You see no reason for her to lie?



Nope

Im as blind to any possibility of her lying as trumpers are to Trump lying
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September 19th, 2018 at 2:54:57 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

How do you possibly know she is telling the truth? Isn't she known to be a big anti-Trump feminist liberal? You see no reason for her to lie?



I don't
But
If you accuse somebody of sexual assault, the consequences should not be that your address is posted on the internet so you cant go home.
That's scary. Punishment for making an accusation
This is why many women will bury a sexual assault and it should not be this way
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September 19th, 2018 at 2:58:19 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

How do you possibly know she is telling the truth? Isn't she known to be a big anti-Trump feminist liberal? You see no reason for her to lie?



It’d have to be one of the best long-cons of all time.

-Telling her husband and therapist about it in 2012.
-Telling a friend about it in 2017.
-Contacting her congresswoman before Trump even picked Kavanaugh.
-Passing a polygraph test.
-Requesting the FBI to investigate it (liars don’t usually do that)
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September 19th, 2018 at 3:18:00 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Nope

Im as blind to any possibility of her lying as trumpers are to Trump lying



No, see, Trump's supporters know he's a liar. They just don't care.

Quote: ams288

It’d have to be one of the best long-cons of all time.



And the best long con of all time is of course when Obama was born his parents lied about it and said he was born in Hawaii, because they knew 45+ years later he would run for President.... ;-D
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September 19th, 2018 at 3:21:14 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

"The FBI doesn't want to" is just a Trump-spewed lie.

What *does* the FBI want to do? It's irrelevant.

Kavanaugh is Trump's nominee, and Trump is the one who could request the FBI reopen their background check on him. There are obvious reasons that Trump and the GOP don't want that to happen...



I don't think it is in their jurisdiction. No accusation of a federal crime, no crossing of state lines. It just isn't their ballywick.
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September 19th, 2018 at 3:33:30 PM permalink
It is sad that she has been attacked at the personal level. This is happening too much to way too many people. I don't care whether her story is true or not as far as the people harassing her goes--they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law using any existing statutes that may cover their actions.

No one--Democrat, Republican, or whatever--deserves to be harassed personally in the manner in which she has been.

I have problems with the way this was handled and I don't know the "truth"...and neither does anyone else it seems; even she has some holes in her memory of the event she can't fill in from what is reported...but that doesn't justify the actions of a few.
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September 19th, 2018 at 4:17:39 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

It is sad that she has been attacked at the personal level. This is happening too much to way too many people. I don't care whether her story is true or not as far as the people harassing her goes--they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law using any existing statutes that may cover their actions.

No one--Democrat, Republican, or whatever--deserves to be harassed personally in the manner in which she has been.

I have problems with the way this was handled and I don't know the "truth"...and neither does anyone else it seems; even she has some holes in her memory of the event she can't fill in from what is reported...but that doesn't justify the actions of a few.



And if her memory of 40 years ago was crystal perfect her attackers would say how unlikely that is and proof that she made it up
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September 19th, 2018 at 5:58:43 PM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

I don't think it is in their jurisdiction. No accusation of a federal crime, no crossing of state lines. It just isn't their ballywick.




It is, because all it is just an extension of an fbi background check. not a indictment or conviction process or investigation.
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September 19th, 2018 at 10:16:29 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

It is, because all it is just an extension of an fbi background check. not a indictment or conviction process or investigation.



About the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas investigation:

"Ordering the FBI investigation.... was the right thing to do. They(Biden and ranking chairman) did what every chairman has done in the past (ordering an FBI investigation) and it was done and it was a good investigation"

--Orrin Hatch

About the Blasey Ford accusation of Brett Kavanaugh:

"The FBI does not do investigations like this. The responsibility falls to us"

--Orrin Hatch

See for yourself https://youtu.be/OzgEMaGP2hM
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September 20th, 2018 at 2:43:13 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

About the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas investigation:

"Ordering the FBI investigation.... was the right thing to do. They(Biden and ranking chairman) did what every chairman has done in the past (ordering an FBI investigation) and it was done and it was a good investigation"

--Orrin Hatch

About the Blasey Ford accusation of Brett Kavanaugh:

"The FBI does not do investigations like this. The responsibility falls to us"

--Orrin Hatch

See for yourself https://youtu.be/OzgEMaGP2hM



You've found it now...a hypocritical politician!

Congratulations.

Wait...there all kinds of them on both sides.

The truth is that no investigation is going to really determine what happened or didn't happen so long as the "victim" cannot even give a good description of the facts surrounding the incident. I am not saying that it didn't happen; no investigation based on what we actually know now (which, admittedly, is less than we think we know since this dribbled out at the speed the Democrats decided to let it...which also happens a lot) will satisfy the Democrats nor change the minds of the Republicans.

Maybe more will come of it, but it is hard to see this stopping his nomination the way things look right now. The Democrats seem to have lost even the swing votes they had a shot at. Of course, we could wake up in a few hours with a new lawyer letter that changes things!

I wish politicians weren't hypocritical and I wish we really knew what happened but I don't think either wish will come true.
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September 20th, 2018 at 5:18:36 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

You've found it now...a hypocritical politician!

Congratulations.

Wait...there all kinds of them on both sides.

The truth is that no investigation is going to really determine what happened or didn't happen so long as the "victim" cannot even give a good description of the facts surrounding the incident. I am not saying that it didn't happen; no investigation based on what we actually know now (which, admittedly, is less than we think we know since this dribbled out at the speed the Democrats decided to let it...which also happens a lot) will satisfy the Democrats nor change the minds of the Republicans.

Maybe more will come of it, but it is hard to see this stopping his nomination the way things look right now. The Democrats seem to have lost even the swing votes they had a shot at. Of course, we could wake up in a few hours with a new lawyer letter that changes things!

I wish politicians weren't hypocritical and I wish we really knew what happened but I don't think either wish will come true.



My point is this IS a matter the FBI does and is supposed to handle and the GOP knows it

Clearly they are rushing the vote after they denied the similar vote to Obama (and right before an election) but the right will be in power only so long and boy will there be a reckoning

If there is a blue wave you can forget any right wing legislation period. And no one is gonna listen to pouting trumpers
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September 20th, 2018 at 6:14:19 AM permalink
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My point is this IS a matter the FBI does and is supposed to handle and the GOP knows it

Clearly they are rushing the vote after they denied the similar vote to Obama (and right before an election) but the right will be in power only so long and boy will there be a reckoning

If there is a blue wave you can forget any right wing legislation period. And no one is gonna listen to pouting trumpers



Susan Collins is checking on the FBI thing, so it is not like it is totally being ignored. She may not be the only one.

Bottom line is that nothing has been brought forward yet to change the dynamics from "he said, she said" about something that happened 36 years ago. If that is the standard YOU are willing to allow to derail any nominee, I hope your are honest enough to say it would be the same for a Democrat nominee. Of course, anyone can say it...but what happens when it comes up?

Senator Feinstein will not even give the letter to Senator Grassley.

You stated it correctly--this really isn't about an incident that cannot be proven one way or the other based on what we know now--it is about Democrats hoping to have the "Blue Wave" and blocking all potential Supreme Court nominees (which I believe will be this spot and one more potentially in the next couple of years) until the next election. The "Blue Wave" is much more likely to change control in the House than the Senate, so it is still likely, no matter what happens with this nominee, that President Trump will get at least one person on the court between now and the 2020 election cycle.

Elections do matter. President Trump is the President just as surely as President _________________ before him. He won the vote the way our system calls for it to be won. The midterms can always change the dynamics, but two years of Democrat obstruction (should the gain control of either body in Congress) also could be negative for the 2020 elections.
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September 20th, 2018 at 6:26:19 AM permalink
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Susan Collins is checking on the FBI thing, so it is not like it is totally being ignored. She may not be the only one.

Bottom line is that nothing has been brought forward yet to change the dynamics from "he said, she said" about something that happened 36 years ago. If that is the standard YOU are willing to allow to derail any nominee, I hope your are honest enough to say it would be the same for a Democrat nominee. Of course, anyone can say it...but what happens when it comes up?

Senator Feinstein will not even give the letter to Senator Grassley.

You stated it correctly--this really isn't about an incident that cannot be proven one way or the other based on what we know now--it is about Democrats hoping to have the "Blue Wave" and blocking all potential Supreme Court nominees (which I believe will be this spot and one more potentially in the next couple of years) until the next election. The "Blue Wave" is much more likely to change control in the House than the Senate, so it is still likely, no matter what happens with this nominee, that President Trump will get at least one person on the court between now and the 2020 election cycle.

Elections do matter. President Trump is the President just as surely as President _________________ before him. He won the vote the way our system calls for it to be won. The midterms can always change the dynamics, but two years of Democrat obstruction (should the gain control of either body in Congress) also could be negative for the 2020 elections.



Agreed

I dont like democratic hypocrites anymore than republican ones. The former saddens me and the latter angers me.
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September 20th, 2018 at 7:39:13 AM permalink
“J. B. Pritzker, he’s going to win. He’s going to win big,” says the announcer. “But he won’t win if we don’t get out and vote. We need the early vote. Like I say, we can play East St. Louis, vote early, vote often. Whatever you can get away with. I shouldn’t say that, but I really don’t care.”

https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2018-09-20-illinois-democrat-tells-crowd-vote-early-and-often/

This was said on stage by someone that is supposedly a Democrat official...whichh means he could be a Precinct Chair, the janitor at the Dem office, whatever...but it was not attributed to a particular person in the article. Could be a sneaky Republican trick, too.
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September 20th, 2018 at 8:06:55 AM permalink
So the lady supposedly did not want to come forward and the name was leaked anyway. Why did she write the letter in the first place--once you put your name to something and send a letter, it can always be leaked. She's old enough to know that. Why did the Democrats leak it if the lady did not ask them to do so? Why did she take a polygraph test?
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September 20th, 2018 at 8:23:43 AM permalink
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“J. B. Pritzker, he’s going to win. He’s going to win big,” says the announcer. “But he won’t win if we don’t get out and vote. We need the early vote. Like I say, we can play East St. Louis, vote early, vote often. Whatever you can get away with. I shouldn’t say that, but I really don’t care.”


Whats the big deal?????????
I vote early. I love early voting. So convenient for us voters that work
I vote often. Every election I am eligible to vote, I vote.
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
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September 20th, 2018 at 8:26:41 AM permalink
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“J. B. Pritzker, he’s going to win. He’s going to win big,” says the announcer. “But he won’t win if we don’t get out and vote. We need the early vote. Like I say, we can play East St. Louis, vote early, vote often. Whatever you can get away with. I shouldn’t say that, but I really don’t care.”

https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2018-09-20-illinois-democrat-tells-crowd-vote-early-and-often/

This was said on stage by someone that is supposedly a Democrat official...whichh means he could be a Precinct Chair, the janitor at the Dem office, whatever...but it was not attributed to a particular person in the article. Could be a sneaky Republican trick, too.



In the video, Totsy Bailey, Local 439 Steamfitters/Pipefitters Union president, can be heard saying, "Vote early, vote often, whatever you can get away with... I shouldn't say that, but, I don't care."
The video shows Bailey introducing a speaker at the Labor Rally in Caseyville.
Two of the speakers were Illinois Gubernatorial candidate, J.B. Pritzker and U.S. Senator Dick Durbin. Neither speaker addressed the comments made by Bailey, according to multiple sources.

https://www.kmov.com/news/il-union-president-vote-early-vote-often-whatever-you-can/article_2c477d3c-babf-11e8-9ee0-bf40239fc0d4.html
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September 20th, 2018 at 9:05:03 AM permalink
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Whats the big deal?????????
I vote early. I love early voting. So convenient for us voters that work
I vote often. Every election I am eligible to vote, I vote.



We both know that he did not mean vote early in each election and vote in each election!!
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September 20th, 2018 at 9:05:07 AM permalink
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In the video, Totsy Bailey, Local 439 Steamfitters/Pipefitters Union president, can be heard saying, "Vote early, vote often, whatever you can get away with... I shouldn't say that, but, I don't care."
The video shows Bailey introducing a speaker at the Labor Rally in Caseyville.
Two of the speakers were Illinois Gubernatorial candidate, J.B. Pritzker and U.S. Senator Dick Durbin. Neither speaker addressed the comments made by Bailey, according to multiple sources.

https://www.kmov.com/news/il-union-president-vote-early-vote-often-whatever-you-can/article_2c477d3c-babf-11e8-9ee0-bf40239fc0d4.html



Yes because we all know public speakers with prepared speeches always listen intently to what the guy before him says so they can alter their speech
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September 20th, 2018 at 9:18:39 AM permalink
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“J. B. Pritzker, he’s going to win. He’s going to win big,” says the announcer. “But he won’t win if we don’t get out and vote. We need the early vote. Like I say, we can play East St. Louis, vote early, vote often. Whatever you can get away with. I shouldn’t say that, but I really don’t care.”

https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2018-09-20-illinois-democrat-tells-crowd-vote-early-and-often/

This was said on stage by someone that is supposedly a Democrat official...whichh means he could be a Precinct Chair, the janitor at the Dem office, whatever...but it was not attributed to a particular person in the article. Could be a sneaky Republican trick, too.




I really find it absurd that you post this junk
Its not the consensus among the left to vote often in the same election
Its a total junk post
I can make equally junk posts that are meaningless
Take Mark Taylor on the right warning listeners that the Illuminati and the Freemasons are using a devilish frequency to alter people’s DNA — which in turn causes them to oppose President Trump.
http://deadstate.org/christian-prophet-the-illuminati-is-emitting-frequencies-that-change-peoples-dna-so-theyll-oppose-trump/

Bottom line
There are kooks on the left and right
The left does not believe that we should vote often in the same election
The right does not believe in a devilish frequency that alters DNA to be against Trump

Posting the views of kooks are junk posts
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
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September 20th, 2018 at 9:26:05 AM permalink
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I really find it absurd that you post this junk
Its not the consensus among the left to vote often in the same election
Its a total junk post
I can make equally junk posts that are meaningless
Take Mark Taylor on the right warning listeners that the Illuminati and the Freemasons are using a devilish frequency to alter people’s DNA — which in turn causes them to oppose President Trump.
http://deadstate.org/christian-prophet-the-illuminati-is-emitting-frequencies-that-change-peoples-dna-so-theyll-oppose-trump/

Bottom line
There are kooks on the left and right
The left does not believe that we should vote often in the same election
The right does not believe in a devilish frequency that alters DNA to be against Trump

Posting the views of kooks are junk posts



I don't do it nearly as often as people to the left of me here make junk posts of their own...you would think that the whole Right is racist, hates women, and wants voter suppression based on what we read. Do you call them out the same way?
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September 20th, 2018 at 9:39:27 AM permalink
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I don't do it nearly as often as people to the left of me here make junk posts of their own...you would think that the whole Right is racist, hates women, and wants voter suppression based on what we read. Do you call them out the same way?



Thats the result of voting for a president who makes racist comments openly says he accosts women and calls them names and a history of gerrymandering to suppress the vote

What? You want lefties to ignore the evidence the way righties do?
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