NCAA march madness bracket contest?
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March 1st, 2018 at 9:15:05 AM
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Brackets will be announced on March 11th. I am suggesting the standard bracket contest with just tiered points. Nothing fancy or special. We can run it on one of the various internet websites and collect money via one of the money collecting sites or we can do an honor system pay at the end but if that is the case I am limiting it to known members.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
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March 1st, 2018 at 1:07:42 PM
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Sounds like a great idea to me. Count me in!
March 1st, 2018 at 3:00:16 PM
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I'm in. We usually go on the honor system here
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March 1st, 2018 at 3:05:40 PM
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Sure me too, I'll watch for details.
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March 1st, 2018 at 3:12:42 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQSure me too, I'll watch for details.
I say let's gauge interest until Tuesday and if we have enough then we can't setup details.
I was coming on here to bump this with a joke bur you guys already replied.
Simple and stupid joke. (I miss the joke thread)
Person says, "what rhymes with orange"
Person 2, "no it doesnt."
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March 1st, 2018 at 4:20:08 PM
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I'm in
voted 20 bucks
voted 20 bucks
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
March 1st, 2018 at 6:30:47 PM
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One winner? Tie Breakers? Will the play ins count too?
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
March 1st, 2018 at 6:31:14 PM
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Quote: terapinedI'm in
voted 20 bucks
Is it one entry only per member?
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:18:03 AM
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More risk, more reward. I am ok with up to 2 or 3 entries per member.Quote: VegasriderIs it one entry only per member?
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There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
March 2nd, 2018 at 4:52:45 AM
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I am thinking the following: these are not the rules, just opening up discussion.
max 2 brackets per person
tie breaker would be total of final game, second tie breaker would be combined scores of the final 4 games.
play in games are not counted (Unless the bracket sites make you)
I personally don't like winner take all type of payouts so I would like a 1st and 2nd, maybe a 3rd depending on how many brackets. but I will go with whatever we all decide.
In the past I have run brackets where each round had a payout as well but without money in hand to distribute I think that is a little tough to do.
payouts will be done after the final game. it will be up to the winners to figure out the method. To make it easy I say we have options link venmo, paypal, or amazon giftcard. I know a lot of people like using Amazon because you can do it anonymously so If the winner doesn't want amazon cards but the losers want to pay that way I can be an in between.
Only current and known members of WOV will be eligible and since we are paying out after the game we should set a rule on who is considered current and known.
As with any contest, WOV, Mike, myself, or any mod does not endorse not guarantee any payouts.
max 2 brackets per person
tie breaker would be total of final game, second tie breaker would be combined scores of the final 4 games.
play in games are not counted (Unless the bracket sites make you)
I personally don't like winner take all type of payouts so I would like a 1st and 2nd, maybe a 3rd depending on how many brackets. but I will go with whatever we all decide.
In the past I have run brackets where each round had a payout as well but without money in hand to distribute I think that is a little tough to do.
payouts will be done after the final game. it will be up to the winners to figure out the method. To make it easy I say we have options link venmo, paypal, or amazon giftcard. I know a lot of people like using Amazon because you can do it anonymously so If the winner doesn't want amazon cards but the losers want to pay that way I can be an in between.
Only current and known members of WOV will be eligible and since we are paying out after the game we should set a rule on who is considered current and known.
As with any contest, WOV, Mike, myself, or any mod does not endorse not guarantee any payouts.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
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March 2nd, 2018 at 7:15:54 AM
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Quote: GWAEI say we have options link amazon giftcard. I know a lot of people like using Amazon .
I'm so glad Amazon is involved. Nothing can be really good unless Amazon is part of it in some way.
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March 2nd, 2018 at 7:33:17 AM
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If ZenKing joins, aren't we all just pissing our money away? How would anyone beat him?
March 2nd, 2018 at 8:44:14 AM
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Quote: SM777If ZenKing joins, aren't we all just pissing our money away? How would anyone beat him?
Naah, it's WatchMeWin. Everybody should be allowed to make side bets on who the winner will be. WMW is going to go off at something like -900.
The only guy that possibly could have beat him is Joel Deze. And he left because several posters were disrespectful re his expertise. So now, you won't get to see him in action.
Last edited by: lilredrooster on Mar 2, 2018
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March 2nd, 2018 at 9:52:49 AM
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Quote: GWAEplay in games are not counted (Unless the bracket sites make you)
PLAY-INS!!!!
Sorry, but that's one of my "buttons." The NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament does not have "play-ins." A true "play-in" is a game where the loser is considered not to have been in that tournament, and the NCAA pretty much goes out of its way to make it clear that all 68 teams are "in the tournament." Among other things, it keeps them from having to explain how two conferences that were promised entries into the tournament in the bylaws didn't get in after all. This is why the round of 64 was called the "second round" for a few years. Note that there are some people - Jim Rome comes to mind - who insist that these should be treated as true play-ins and the losers should not be treated as being "tournament teams."
Also, for purposes of distributing the TV contract money to the conferences, part of which is based on how many tournament games (not counting the championship game) the conference has played in the previous six years, the Dayton games count. Personally, I think that it should count only for the teams that lose - otherwise, you're rewarding a team for being the #65 team in the country as opposed to #64 - and, in fact, that's how it originally worked.
March 2nd, 2018 at 1:15:46 PM
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Quote: lilredroosterNaah, it's WatchMeWin. Everybody should be allowed to make side bets on who the winner will be. WMW is going to go off at something like -900.
I agree that WatchMeWin is the obvious eventual winner of the pool. But how do you set odds on a guy who’s never placed a losing bet and never had a losing casino session ??
March 2nd, 2018 at 2:16:22 PM
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So no big deal, but why wouldn't the entry $ be collected by someone before the tournament actually starts and held in "escrow" ? I am NOT trying to complicate things.Quote: GWAEOnly current and known members of WOV will be eligible and since we are paying out after the game we should set a rule on who is considered current and known.
As with any contest, WOV, Mike, myself, or any mod does not endorse not guarantee any payouts.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
March 2nd, 2018 at 3:54:38 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQSo no big deal, but why wouldn't the entry $ be collected by someone before the tournament actually starts and held in "escrow" ? I am NOT trying to complicate things.
Personally, I wouldn't mind if a few folks don't pay up, as long as they get banned.
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March 2nd, 2018 at 7:24:32 PM
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I'm in.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
March 2nd, 2018 at 8:07:12 PM
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I'm in.
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March 2nd, 2018 at 8:44:11 PM
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Quote: billryanPersonally, I wouldn't mind if a few folks don't pay up, as long as they get banned.
Haha anyone in particular? Wait, is that baiting?
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
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March 3rd, 2018 at 12:23:06 AM
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Quote: GWAEHaha anyone in particular? Wait, is that baiting?
Ban them all. Let God sort them out.
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March 3rd, 2018 at 9:44:22 AM
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Count me in.
I do not think you need a second tiebreaker. In the unlikely event of a tie at the end (in a contest of this size), just split the pool between the tied winners.
I do not think you need a second tiebreaker. In the unlikely event of a tie at the end (in a contest of this size), just split the pool between the tied winners.
March 3rd, 2018 at 1:35:44 PM
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Quote: GWAEI
Only current and known members of WOV will be eligible and since we are paying out after the game we should set a rule on who is considered current and known.
As with any contest, WOV, Mike, myself, or any mod does not endorse not guarantee any payouts.
Definition of current known members? Nobody knows me except possibly one.
March 3rd, 2018 at 4:04:01 PM
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Quote: VegasriderDefinition of current known members? Nobody knows me except possibly one.
Maybe I shouldn't say known members. I mean members that have been here a while. If someone signed up this month then they are not going to be in.
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March 3rd, 2018 at 4:13:58 PM
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Lets say anyone with 65 posts on or before March 1.
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March 6th, 2018 at 1:02:50 PM
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ok I think we have enough interest to run a $20 per entry poll. Lets discuss some rules over the next few days.
Please add anything that you would like to discuss.
Point system:
We can go with the standard 32 points per round. Round 1 is 1 point, then 2, then 4, then 8, then 16, then 32.
or
We can do a modified system that doesnt put as much weight on the final like 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 10
Site:
I know a lot of people on here get concerned with being anonymous. Does anyone have a preferred site that allows you to use a screen name without tracing it back to an actual person. I couldn't care less so I don't know how any of them do it.
payment:
payment will be made at the conclusion of the tournament. I will suggest that it is cash in person, amazon giftcard, or paypal (venmo). If either party really wants to keep themselves anonymous I can act as a go between since I have met a lot of you. If Mission is involved with the tournament I am sure he would as well (That was me volunteering him, he has not agreed)
that is it for now.
Please add anything that you would like to discuss.
Point system:
We can go with the standard 32 points per round. Round 1 is 1 point, then 2, then 4, then 8, then 16, then 32.
or
We can do a modified system that doesnt put as much weight on the final like 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 10
Site:
I know a lot of people on here get concerned with being anonymous. Does anyone have a preferred site that allows you to use a screen name without tracing it back to an actual person. I couldn't care less so I don't know how any of them do it.
payment:
payment will be made at the conclusion of the tournament. I will suggest that it is cash in person, amazon giftcard, or paypal (venmo). If either party really wants to keep themselves anonymous I can act as a go between since I have met a lot of you. If Mission is involved with the tournament I am sure he would as well (That was me volunteering him, he has not agreed)
that is it for now.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
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March 6th, 2018 at 2:55:57 PM
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Winner take all, or is their a prize pool? Apologies if this was discussed mid thread.
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March 6th, 2018 at 5:11:11 PM
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I prefer 2 places, maybe 80/20 But rounded to easiest split?
Also I say people can do a maximum of 2 brackets at $20 each.
Also I say people can do a maximum of 2 brackets at $20 each.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
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March 6th, 2018 at 6:24:09 PM
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How about this
1 point for picking a favorite or seed 1 to 8 to win and the higher seed wins
3 points for picking a lower seed 9 to 16 to win and the lower seed wins
or
You pick a 1 seed to win and they win, you get 1 point
You pick a 13 seed to win and they win, you get 13 points
That would make it interesting
We only pick the 1st round.
Once 2nd round determined, we all make our picks again
This way upsets are rewarded a lot more then going with the favorite which the majority pick
Also if your upset doesn't pan out, not hugely punished if only picking 1st round
I am a huge March Madness fan that is ALWAYS rooting for an upset
I hate when people complain that an upset ruined their bracket.
I love ruined brackets, much more exciting tourney then all the favorites advancing
Lets have a system that rewards upsets. Make people consider upsets due to the extra points
Don't reward people for picking all the favorites. That's too easy
Lets make this challenging
Lets reward upsets. Upsets is what makes the tourney great
1 point for picking a favorite or seed 1 to 8 to win and the higher seed wins
3 points for picking a lower seed 9 to 16 to win and the lower seed wins
or
You pick a 1 seed to win and they win, you get 1 point
You pick a 13 seed to win and they win, you get 13 points
That would make it interesting
We only pick the 1st round.
Once 2nd round determined, we all make our picks again
This way upsets are rewarded a lot more then going with the favorite which the majority pick
Also if your upset doesn't pan out, not hugely punished if only picking 1st round
I am a huge March Madness fan that is ALWAYS rooting for an upset
I hate when people complain that an upset ruined their bracket.
I love ruined brackets, much more exciting tourney then all the favorites advancing
Lets have a system that rewards upsets. Make people consider upsets due to the extra points
Don't reward people for picking all the favorites. That's too easy
Lets make this challenging
Lets reward upsets. Upsets is what makes the tourney great
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
March 6th, 2018 at 8:25:12 PM
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Quote: terapinedHow about this
1 point for picking a favorite or seed 1 to 8 to win and the higher seed wins
3 points for picking a lower seed 9 to 16 to win and the lower seed wins
or
You pick a 1 seed to win and they win, you get 1 point
You pick a 13 seed to win and they win, you get 13 points
That would make it interesting
We only pick the 1st round.
Once 2nd round determined, we all make our picks again
This way upsets are rewarded a lot more then going with the favorite which the majority pick
Also if your upset doesn't pan out, not hugely punished if only picking 1st round
I am a huge March Madness fan that is ALWAYS rooting for an upset
I hate when people complain that an upset ruined their bracket.
I love ruined brackets, much more exciting tourney then all the favorites advancing
Lets have a system that rewards upsets. Make people consider upsets due to the extra points
Don't reward people for picking all the favorites. That's too easy
Lets make this challenging
Lets reward upsets. Upsets is what makes the tourney great
“Favorite” and higher seed are two entirely different things. You’ll see 11 and 12 seeds as favorites in their first round games. A few years ago there was a 4 vs 13 game listed as a pk em
March 6th, 2018 at 9:50:13 PM
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There is no reason to have a scoring system that rewards picking underdogs or lower seeds. That will ruin the contest.
I have participated in many bracket contests over many years. The number of upsets in every NCAA tournament to date is always high. Anyone with a bracket that picks the favorites 100% of the time will lose. The trick to winning is to pick the correct underdogs and as many Final Four teams as possible.
I have participated in many bracket contests over many years. The number of upsets in every NCAA tournament to date is always high. Anyone with a bracket that picks the favorites 100% of the time will lose. The trick to winning is to pick the correct underdogs and as many Final Four teams as possible.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
March 7th, 2018 at 5:38:00 AM
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I'll be particularly interested thus year, I think 10/12 teams that I placed futures back in November will get in. Got some really nice lines on some teams that are solid favorites to advance deep and hopefully win it.
Clemson 500:1, Tennessee 300:1, Auburn 150:1, every one of my futures are at least 150:1.
Clemson 500:1, Tennessee 300:1, Auburn 150:1, every one of my futures are at least 150:1.
March 7th, 2018 at 6:23:52 AM
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Quote: terapinedHow about this...
If we're discussing point systems, how about an easy one:
Championship Game - 32 points
Final Four (semi-finals) - 16 points
Elite 8 - 8 points
Sweet 16 - 4 points
Second Round - 2 points
First Round - 1 point
That's 192 points total - if you want to make it an even 200, add:
(a) Normally, if you put a team in a Dayton game in your bracket, and it loses in Dayton, it is automatically replaced in your bracket with the team that beat it - as an "early bird bonus", you can predict the winners of the four Dayton games as well, worth 1 point each
(b) Also choose one team in the NIT (the bracket will be announced at 9:30 Eastern the day that the NCAA bracket is announced) - 4 points if it wins, 3 if it loses in the final, 2 if it loses in the semi-finals, 1 if it loses in the quarter-finals
March 7th, 2018 at 7:47:44 AM
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Quote: Vegasrider
Clemson 500:1, Tennessee 300:1, Auburn 150:1, every one of my futures are at least 150:1.
Very impressive. In the pre-season I would have taken Tennessee 300:1 (I know that team very well) but not Auburn or Clemson.
I guess now they're all worth nominally 64:1
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March 12th, 2018 at 2:00:46 AM
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Virginia got the top seed. they only lost 2 games. they feature defense and don't have any OMG stars (I think).
this is a great and fun article about them. I don't say they're going to win but they're definitely tough. of course, they could get upset.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginia-basketball-isnt-a-highlight-reel-its-a-how-to-video/2018/03/08/d137a32e-2318-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.9df40e2ed7d9
this is a great and fun article about them. I don't say they're going to win but they're definitely tough. of course, they could get upset.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/virginia-basketball-isnt-a-highlight-reel-its-a-how-to-video/2018/03/08/d137a32e-2318-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.9df40e2ed7d9
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