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January 27th, 2018 at 1:07:06 PM permalink
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/01/27/politics/wynn-rnc-finance-chair-resigns/index.html

The RNC finance chairman no more
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January 27th, 2018 at 1:34:20 PM permalink
It's funny. It all started with Harvey Weinstein and it's exploded. Anyone remember the McMartin pre school sexual allegations from 1983? After those allegations, arrests and the pretrial investigation ran from 1984 to 1987, and the trial ran from 1987 until 1990. After six years of criminal trials, no convictions were obtained, and all charges were dropped in 1990. Turns out that there was a lot of coaching of children which guided their responses. When the trial ended in 1990, it had been the longest and most expensive criminal trial in American history up until that time.

After the charges involving the McMartin case were made there were allegations coming in from all around the country of child molestation at other pre schools.

I'm not suggesting that the sexual misconduct that is occuring now is not legitimate. In fact, I believe the accusers. I'm just drawring a parallel to past instances of jumping on the bandwagon.
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January 27th, 2018 at 1:38:25 PM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

It's funny. It all started with Harvey Weinstein and it's exploded. Anyone remember the McMartin pre school sexual allegations from 1983? After those allegations, arrests and the pretrial investigation ran from 1984 to 1987, and the trial ran from 1987 until 1990. After six years of criminal trials, no convictions were obtained, and all charges were dropped in 1990. Turns out that there was a lot of coaching of children which guided their responses. When the trial ended in 1990, it had been the longest and most expensive criminal trial in American history up until that time.

After the charges involving the McMartin case were made there were allegations coming in from all around the country of child molestation at other pre schools.

I'm not suggesting that the sexual misconduct that is occuring now is not legitimate. In fact, I believe the accusers. I'm just drawring a parallel to past instances of jumping on the bandwagon.



I also saw the comparison. But these are not children coached but adults so this seems a different situation imo
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January 27th, 2018 at 1:48:12 PM permalink
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I also saw the comparison. But these are not children coached but adults so this seems a different situation imo



Yes, these are adults who will be trying to cash in. You don't see any poor people being accused, because there is no money in that. Most allegations are probably true, but certainly not all.
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January 27th, 2018 at 1:48:58 PM permalink
The subject of this thread is incorrect. He did not resign for sexual misconduct. He has not admitted to anything, nor has he been convicted. He's actually denied the allegations.

He resigned due to the controversy and publicity of allegations. There is a huge difference.


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January 27th, 2018 at 2:03:32 PM permalink
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The subject of this thread is incorrect. He did not resign for sexual misconduct. He has not admitted to anything, nor has he been convicted. He's actually denied the allegations.

He resigned due to the controversy and publicity of allegations. There is a huge difference.


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Valid point. I retitled it.
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January 27th, 2018 at 3:28:44 PM permalink
Hes guilty!

Like all republican holier than thou billionaires who grab women by their pussycats

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January 27th, 2018 at 3:58:42 PM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

It's funny. It all started with Harvey Weinstein and it's exploded. Anyone remember the McMartin pre school sexual allegations from 1983? After those allegations, arrests and the pretrial investigation ran from 1984 to 1987, and the trial ran from 1987 until 1990. After six years of criminal trials, no convictions were obtained, and all charges were dropped in 1990. Turns out that there was a lot of coaching of children which guided their responses. When the trial ended in 1990, it had been the longest and most expensive criminal trial in American history up until that time.

After the charges involving the McMartin case were made there were allegations coming in from all around the country of child molestation at other pre schools.

I'm not suggesting that the sexual misconduct that is occuring now is not legitimate. In fact, I believe the accusers. I'm just drawring a parallel to past instances of jumping on the bandwagon.



My theory. This didn't start with Harvey Weinstein. This is backlash to Trump being elected. Stuff that would have, before this election, taken him out of the running simply got ignored.

Look at Gary Hart(bimbo eruption ) John Edwards (unfaithful and impregnated her), John McCain (rumored to have an illegitimate black child), Michael Dukakis (Kitty alcoholic), Thomas Eagleton (wife mentally ill), a dozen others along the way.

Trump was at least in part revenge for Bill Clinton, as well as making Hillary out to be the villain somehow in his philandering.

But the stuff out there is so nasty, and so far beneath what we expect of our leaders, it beggars belief. Nobody needs a score card (pun intended ) at this point. But the serial adultery, impregnating other women while married, going with porn stars and prostitutes, popping into pageant dressing rooms, p###y grabbing bragging, etc, all adds up to a nightmare guy. One who's rich and famous and uses all of that to hurt other people. One who every woman I know would avoid at all costs, as a lover, a boyfriend, a customer, a co-worker, or a boss.

And he got elected anyway. Spent over a year doing one outrageous, unacceptable thing after the next during the campaign. People (mostly men) just made excuses or said it was somehow equivalent to Clinton getting elected and ignored it that way.

Women looked around and said, well, if this is the world we're living in, let's change that world. And started looking at everything they'd previously been less than strident about objecting to.

Several million women marched against his inauguration world-wide. Millions more are networked into telling their stories, both good and bad. And all of this is a ramp-up, taking no prisoners along the way, attack on Trump and the culture that allowed such a f#/^ing moron to be president. (Epithet courtesy Rex T.)

So Harvey Weinstein and everybody else, even Al Franken, have Trump to blame for the disruption of business as usual when it comes to abuse of women, abuse of power, abuse of liberty.

More millions of us marched this past week (not.suggesting as many as last year, but a very significant number - I haven't heard comparisons yet), if nothing else, proving this isn't going away. Thousands of women are running for office, any office. They all have to be filled.

So, there's some perspective from a woman. Most of us don't like having to do it any more than you men who are suffering through it. But I doubt it will die down until Trump is gone,.preferably quickly.
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January 27th, 2018 at 4:14:58 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

My theory. This didn't start with Harvey Weinstein. This is backlash to Trump being elected. Stuff that would have, before this election, taken him out of the running simply got ignored.

Look at Gary Hart(bimbo eruption ) John Edwards (unfaithful and impregnated her), John McCain (rumored to have an illegitimate black child), Michael Dukakis (Kitty alcoholic), Thomas Eagleton (wife mentally ill), a dozen others along the way.

Trump was at least in part revenge for Bill Clinton, as well as making Hillary out to be the villain somehow in his philandering.

But the stuff out there is so nasty, and so far beneath what we expect of our leaders, it beggars belief. Nobody needs a score card (pun intended ) at this point. But the serial adultery, impregnating other women while married, going with porn stars and prostitutes, popping into pageant dressing rooms, p###y grabbing bragging, etc, all adds up to a nightmare guy. One who's rich and famous and uses all of that to hurt other people. One who every woman I know would avoid at all costs, as a lover, a boyfriend, a customer, a co-worker, or a boss.

And he got elected anyway. Spent over a year doing one outrageous, unacceptable thing after the next during the campaign. People (mostly men) just made excuses or said it was somehow equivalent to Clinton getting elected and ignored it that way.

Women looked around and said, well, if this is the world we're living in, let's change that world. And started looking at everything they'd previously been less than strident about objecting to.

Several million women marched against his inauguration world-wide. Millions more are networked into telling their stories, both good and bad. And all of this is a ramp-up, taking no prisoners along the way, attack on Trump and the culture that allowed such a f#/^ing moron to be president. (Epithet courtesy Rex T.)

So Harvey Weinstein and everybody else, even Al Franken, have Trump to blame for the disruption of business as usual when it comes to abuse of women, abuse of power, abuse of liberty.

More millions of us marched this past week (not.suggesting as many as last year, but a very significant number - I haven't heard comparisons yet), if nothing else, proving this isn't going away. Thousands of women are running for office, any office. They all have to be filled.

So, there's some perspective from a woman. Most of us don't like having to do it any more than you men who are suffering through it. But I doubt it will die down until Trump is gone,.preferably quickly.



Totally agree

At least trump will have accomplished one thing as president

Nonetheless those men who didnt abuse women will not have to worry. Only those that deserve it
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January 27th, 2018 at 5:17:05 PM permalink
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Totally agree

At least trump will have accomplished one thing as president

Nonetheless those men who didnt abuse women will not have to worry. Only those that deserve it



I'd like to believe that. I really would.

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