Nathan
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January 21st, 2018 at 11:31:34 PM permalink
https://www.google.com/amp/boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/17/twin-river-casino-robbery-arrest-ty-shon-forbes/amp/

This is so damn sad! This literally and figuratively poor woman! I feel so bad for her! I would have felt bad enough for her if this happened to a YOUNG woman, but the fact that this happened to an elderly person who could be a someone's elderly mother and a grandmother just breaks my heart! :(
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January 22nd, 2018 at 4:53:07 AM permalink
61 is "elderly?"

I've gambled at Twin Rivers casino before, I liked it. It is a little hike from Providence to Quincy. That dude was committed to robbing her.
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January 22nd, 2018 at 5:29:07 AM permalink
Water takes the path of the least resistance. If other means of robbery were still as easy, criminals would go to the nameless and faceless to rob.
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January 22nd, 2018 at 6:45:04 AM permalink
Its a queston of victim vigilance and a crook's determination.
Recently some people in Europe robbed a driverless truck at sixty mph. It happens.

Many people take their winnings and are vigilant until they get into their car, then they feel safe. She may never have checked her mirrors or varied her speed to see if anyone did also and I'm sure she never drove around the block a few times to see if anyone was following her.
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January 22nd, 2018 at 11:23:16 AM permalink
I feel somehow since it was reported that he was caught on camera following her around after she won the big Jackpot, a simple, "Ma'am, this guy has been following you around ever since you won the big jackpot. He's acting shady and I suggest you be extra vigilant and drive into a police station if you have to to be safe," heads up from a helpful gambler or casino employee would have been great.
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January 22nd, 2018 at 12:22:55 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

but the fact that this happened to an elderly person who could be a someone's elderly mother and a grandmother just breaks my heart! :(



It breaks my butt that you think
61 is 'elderly'. What is an 80 year
old if 61 is elderly. 61 is barely a
senior citizen, which legally starts
at 60. My wife's parents are in
their 90's, we are in our 60's. Who's
'elderly' is this scenario..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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January 22nd, 2018 at 1:46:14 PM permalink
A violent criminal preying on the "middle-aged" should be put away for a long time.

The 61-year-old woman suffered broken vertebrae in the November 10 attack.
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January 22nd, 2018 at 1:47:09 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I feel somehow since it was reported that he was caught on camera following her around after she won the big Jackpot, a simple, "Ma'am, this guy has been following you around ever since you won the big jackpot. He's acting shady and I suggest you be extra vigilant and drive into a police station if you have to to be safe," heads up from a helpful gambler or casino employee would have been great.



I suspect they didn't look at the films until after she was robbed.
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January 22nd, 2018 at 3:41:29 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

I suspect they didn't look at the films until after she was robbed.

Undoubtedly. They look at cashiers and at dealers chip trays and look for collusion and mistakes. They don't look at the normal ebb and flow of the crowds. Heck at Thunder Valley near Sacramento one man put a date rape drug in a blackjack players drink and soon maneuvered her out to the parking lot as she became increasingly tipsy. Cameras were very useful but not viewed until a few days later

Parking lot camera often take three minutes to do a complete circuit and so miss a lot of stuff.

Driving home most people don't check if they have a vehicle pacing them. I once drove from a Seminole casino: not much money but I still checked and that was after getting lost which would have annoyed a tail. If you vary your speed and so does another car then you get suspicious. Doesn't take long to do and only costs you a minute or so. Once I pulled into a church parking lot and waited a bit before pulling out; once it was an adult club's parking lot. It doesn't take long to spot a tail that way.
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January 22nd, 2018 at 4:03:17 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

I suspect they didn't look at the films until after she was robbed.



I was thinking about about a security guard watching the camera and realizing that this creep was following this older woman around after she got a huge payout and say something on the radio like"Boss, this shady guy has been following this oblivious older woman around as soon as she got a huge payout. He wasn't following her around before she won. I think you should go there and try to stop anything shady he is plotting." The boss could go up to them and say something like,"Ma'am, do you know this gentleman? Pointing to shady man. She says,"No," and the boss says something like,"I knew it. He has been following you around the casino as soon as you won the $6,000. She is shocked and dismayed and the boss has the creep escorted out of the casino completely and advises her to drive into a police station in case he is hiding somewhere. She gratefully thanks him.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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January 22nd, 2018 at 4:09:13 PM permalink
Have you ever considered writing a movie Nathan?

Please don’t.
Nathan
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January 22nd, 2018 at 5:04:58 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Have you ever considered writing a movie Nathan?

Please don’t.



LMAO. :D I do tend to ramble on and on a lot of times. ;)
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January 22nd, 2018 at 5:57:22 PM permalink
It's communism epitomized: "From her according to her ability to pay, to him according to his need."
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January 23rd, 2018 at 2:56:56 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

It's communism epitomized: "From her according to her ability to pay, to him according to his need."



Sad really. :(
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January 23rd, 2018 at 12:42:03 PM permalink
The buddy system is ideal when it comes to stuff like this. Especially if your "buddy," happens to be your 22 year old 6 foot. 250 pound grandson! ;) :P
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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January 23rd, 2018 at 1:15:11 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I was thinking about about a security guard watching the camera and realizing that this creep was following this older woman around after she got a huge payout and say something on the radio like"Boss, this shady guy has been following this oblivious older woman around as soon as she got a huge payout. He wasn't following her around before she won. I think you should go there and try to stop anything shady he is plotting." The boss could go up to them and say something like,"Ma'am, do you know this gentleman? Pointing to shady man. She says,"No," and the boss says something like,"I knew it. He has been following you around the casino as soon as you won the $6,000. She is shocked and dismayed and the boss has the creep escorted out of the casino completely and advises her to drive into a police station in case he is hiding somewhere. She gratefully thanks him.



Surveillance doesnt surveil people after they have won a jackpot. They go back to their normal duties
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January 23rd, 2018 at 3:00:15 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Surveillance doesnt surveil people after they have won a jackpot. They go back to their normal duties



Well, that sucks! The casino should still surveil people after they win a Jackpot! That's when they need to be surveiled the most!
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January 23rd, 2018 at 3:19:02 PM permalink
I think you are confusing casino security for your guardian angel.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 3:51:16 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Well, that sucks! The casino should still surveil people after they win a Jackpot! That's when they need to be surveiled the most!

Even if the people noticed something peculiar, they wouldn't care because it's not really their job to care. Security is for the casino, not the patrons.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 4:19:45 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Surveillance doesnt surveil people after they have won a jackpot. They go back to their normal duties

Probably not for safety reasons.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 8:00:14 PM permalink
She won the money playing blackjack. Not a jackpot. Twin River does this stupid thing where when you cash out at the cage, there's this little monitor in front of you and it tells you how much you're getting paid. I thought it was kinda weird, since the person behind you in line can see how much you're getting paid as if they're inviting someone to get robbed after cashing out 5+ figures.


I'm not surprised this happened, at this property, to say the least.


BTW, they do this real cool thing there, where if you hit a jackpot, they print out a TITO from the machine, put your info on it, and you take it to the cage to get paid. Down time when hitting jackpots is maybe 1 minute. Very nice.
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January 23rd, 2018 at 11:57:22 PM permalink
Quote: RS

She won the money playing blackjack. Not a jackpot. Twin River does this stupid thing where when you cash out at the cage, there's this little monitor in front of you and it tells you how much you're getting paid. I thought it was kinda weird, since the person behind you in line can see how much you're getting paid as if they're inviting someone to get robbed after cashing out 5+ figures.


I'm not surprised this happened, at this property, to say the least.


BTW, they do this real cool thing there, where if you hit a jackpot, they print out a TITO from the machine, put your info on it, and you take it to the cage to get paid. Down time when hitting jackpots is maybe 1 minute. Very nice.



My used to slots brain tends to think $6,000 is a big Jackpot. ;) I failed to take into account that a huge win on Blackjack is not a Jackpot like you would get on a slot machine. $6,000 on Coyote Moon=Jackpot, W2 form, and upfront taxes(If you choose to tell them to take out the taxes then and there) , so more like. $4,000, and a $6,000 win on Blackjack is just a $6,000 win, with no W2 form or taxes. :)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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