What is the single most insulting casino offer you have received?
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:14:38 PM
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I didn't play at one of my local casinos for MONTHS and got a "We miss you" offer of $3 for the whole month! That's beyond insulting. That's a dastardly slap in the face! That's the worst offer I have received EVER. My other local gives me roughly $60 a MONTH just to put into perceptive how insultingly low the $3 a month offer really is.
What's the single most insulting casino offer you have received?
What's the single most insulting casino offer you have received?
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January 2nd, 2018 at 7:22:45 PM
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A really pretty girl approached me at MGM, asking if I wanted a "date."
Can you imagine, she actually wanted me to pay HER for having sex.
Hell, she asked me first, she should pay.
Yes, I took serious umbrage at that trollop's pitch.
Can you imagine, she actually wanted me to pay HER for having sex.
Hell, she asked me first, she should pay.
Yes, I took serious umbrage at that trollop's pitch.
"What, me worry?"
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:43:49 PM
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I was kind of angry the casino called $15 fp a Christmas bonus. Then received a birthday bonus of $10 fp. If they're going to do something special, it should be more than typical for and not less. Otherwise, they should not slap a special name on it.
I am a robot.
January 2nd, 2018 at 8:04:25 PM
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A casino in Vegas sent out a revised mailer cutting a lot of people in half on offers already received. The original offers were normal. Guess they were taking a beating?......lol....Sure pissed a whole lot of regulars off.
They spent the money to print and send the mail twice. Pissed off their client base and had to double down the following month to keep their regulars from jumping ship. Casinos are a hoot.
They spent the money to print and send the mail twice. Pissed off their client base and had to double down the following month to keep their regulars from jumping ship. Casinos are a hoot.
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January 2nd, 2018 at 8:13:20 PM
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I wonder about printing and postage costs for a mailer offering three dollars.Quote: NathanI and got a "We miss you" offer of $3 for the whole month! That's beyond insulting.
January 2nd, 2018 at 8:39:03 PM
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I went to Yonkers twice soon after it opened. For several years they would send me $5 free play and $5 off a buffet monthly. After no showing for years, it was reduced to quarterly. Now they send them to Nevada.
I wonder what the return percentage is for out of state postcards.
I wonder what the return percentage is for out of state postcards.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:48:15 PM
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One of the funniest offers I got was a "VIP only" drawing where you had to earn a bunch of points for an entry to win a roomba. At first I thought it said you get a free roomba, then I thought it was you have to earn XXX points for a free roomba....but the offer was actually, you have to earn XXX points for an entry to enter into the drawing to try to win a roomba.
Another funny one, I don't remember the exact details, but it was an invitation to another drawing (you have to earn XXX points per entry). It was something like 10 winners share $200 in cash or freeplay, which is like $20/person. And this was at a legitimate casino, not a tiny whole in the wall place (granted, it wasn't like an MGM Grand or Caesars Palace, either). The worst part was, the offer made it seem like the drawing was really really cool and they were giving away a whole bunch'a money.
I've gotten several insulting offers that are like, "Do $1,000 coin in and get $3 (or $5) in free slot play!" Like....bruh, how does this make me want to go to your casino????
Didn't happen to me, but happened to a friend. Long story short, he was playing quite a bit, a host approached him, asked if he could do anything (you know how hosts are, they're always saying they can do this and that, anything you need, don't hesitate to ask, etc. etc.). He said yeah, going to steakhouse tonight with a few friends, can I get it comped or a discount? Host said he'll check, he came back with a whopping $10 comp and played it off like it was some huge comp and said if he needs anything else during his stay, don't hesitate to ask. Like wow, I don't think it can really get any more insulting than that. =\
Another funny one, I don't remember the exact details, but it was an invitation to another drawing (you have to earn XXX points per entry). It was something like 10 winners share $200 in cash or freeplay, which is like $20/person. And this was at a legitimate casino, not a tiny whole in the wall place (granted, it wasn't like an MGM Grand or Caesars Palace, either). The worst part was, the offer made it seem like the drawing was really really cool and they were giving away a whole bunch'a money.
I've gotten several insulting offers that are like, "Do $1,000 coin in and get $3 (or $5) in free slot play!" Like....bruh, how does this make me want to go to your casino????
Didn't happen to me, but happened to a friend. Long story short, he was playing quite a bit, a host approached him, asked if he could do anything (you know how hosts are, they're always saying they can do this and that, anything you need, don't hesitate to ask, etc. etc.). He said yeah, going to steakhouse tonight with a few friends, can I get it comped or a discount? Host said he'll check, he came back with a whopping $10 comp and played it off like it was some huge comp and said if he needs anything else during his stay, don't hesitate to ask. Like wow, I don't think it can really get any more insulting than that. =\
January 3rd, 2018 at 7:34:27 AM
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A casino was offering bonus FP on a certain day of the week. Went in to just get some FP and found out it was a whopping $2... I literally laughed and pointed at the screen to my teammate.
I've also received mailers for "we miss you... come play $100 and get $5 in free play!"
I haven't had to pay for a hotel room in a long time... so the offers of like "We miss you, check out your AMAZING OFFER!!! ...$65 per night hotel!" are really insulting to me. I think hotel rooms should be one of the easiest comps a casino could offer, especially to someone out of town/state.
I've also received mailers for "we miss you... come play $100 and get $5 in free play!"
I haven't had to pay for a hotel room in a long time... so the offers of like "We miss you, check out your AMAZING OFFER!!! ...$65 per night hotel!" are really insulting to me. I think hotel rooms should be one of the easiest comps a casino could offer, especially to someone out of town/state.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 3rd, 2018 at 10:39:38 AM
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A friend put over $1000 coin-in on slots at Mountaineer casino month or two ago and hasn't gotten mail yet. If they know what they're doing, they're the only ones that know they know what they're doing. The casino about 15 months ago cried uncle and just about butchered free play offers, haven't changed yet.
I am a robot.
January 3rd, 2018 at 10:50:06 AM
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"Celebrate your Birthday at our casino"
No gift, No free play, No comps, NOTHING!
No gift, No free play, No comps, NOTHING!
January 3rd, 2018 at 10:51:52 AM
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lol that's gotta... take the cake!Quote: FatGeezus"Celebrate your Birthday at our casino"
No gift, No free play, No comps, NOTHING!
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 3rd, 2018 at 11:00:36 AM
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Quote: Romeslol that's gotta... take the cake!
I love puns! :D I agree, that's a really insulting thing for a casino to mail to their patrons for their birthday. I have a pun of my own to supplement your cake pun. That casino expects patrons to buy and or bake their own cakes for their birthdays....;)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
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ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
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January 3rd, 2018 at 12:37:17 PM
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I recently got a postcard inviting me to come in from 7-8PM on a date three weeks from then for a free A&W Root Beer Float.
Limited quantities available.
Limited quantities available.
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January 3rd, 2018 at 12:46:36 PM
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Quote: FatGeezus"Celebrate your Birthday at our casino"
No gift, No free play, No comps, NOTHING!
Mods please close thread. Can't possibly get worse than this. The end.
LOL
January 3rd, 2018 at 12:50:02 PM
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Quote: FatGeezus"Celebrate your Birthday at our casino"
No gift, No free play, No comps, NOTHING!
Casino deserves to be outed. Who dun it?
January 3rd, 2018 at 1:34:12 PM
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Yeah I kind of agree... really would like to know lol.Quote: mcallister3200Casino deserves to be outed. Who dun it?
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
January 3rd, 2018 at 1:48:59 PM
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Quote: FatGeezus"Celebrate your Birthday at our casino"
No gift, No free play, No comps, NOTHING!
I got one of those today from boyd. Cant figure out how to post it from my phone.
I also got from a local yesterday play $1000 and get $5 fp or a $5 food voucher.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
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January 3rd, 2018 at 6:16:21 PM
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Total Rewards from a couple months ago was: Earn 66700 tier credits this month, get 7000 tier credit bonus.
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
January 3rd, 2018 at 6:33:11 PM
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As much as I am a fan of UK casinos over Vegas and Vegas style casinos, they're not the best in comps.
One of the largest casinos in London sent me an email saying "As one of our well appreciated guests, I’d like to take this opportunity to invite you back here for a free spin on our Super Wheel to win your parking for the month of October."
Basically spinning a Big Wheel game and if it doesn't land on a specific spot, I get free parking in one of the most public transportly dense areas of the country.
Great...
One of the largest casinos in London sent me an email saying "As one of our well appreciated guests, I’d like to take this opportunity to invite you back here for a free spin on our Super Wheel to win your parking for the month of October."
Basically spinning a Big Wheel game and if it doesn't land on a specific spot, I get free parking in one of the most public transportly dense areas of the country.
Great...
January 3rd, 2018 at 6:47:30 PM
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Quote: MoosetonTotal Rewards from a couple months ago was: Earn 66700 tier credits this month, get 7000 tier credit bonus.
That's actually really messed up.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
"Olive oil is processed but it only has one
ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D
"For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
January 3rd, 2018 at 8:22:04 PM
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Quote: NathanThat's actually really messed up.
Here it is.
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
January 4th, 2018 at 4:26:48 AM
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Quote: FatGeezus"Celebrate your Birthday at our casino"
No gift, No free play, No comps, NOTHING!
That's worse then the shitty mcshitterton tupperware set they are always peddling at local casinos
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
January 4th, 2018 at 6:57:19 AM
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Quote: mcallister3200Casino deserves to be outed. Who dun it?
I can't remember exactly which one it was but it was one of the 4 CET casinos in AC at the time. (Ballys, Caesars, Harrahs, Showboat)
January 4th, 2018 at 9:33:08 AM
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Sounds like the best offer ever.Quote: billryanI recently got a postcard inviting me to come in from 7-8PM on a date three weeks from then for a free A&W Root Beer Float.
Limited quantities available.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 4th, 2018 at 9:45:58 AM
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I received a email from Boyd on my birthday. No offers but it did contain a link. The link took me to a page with a animated birthday cake lol.
January 4th, 2018 at 10:35:31 AM
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Quote: Mikey75I received a email from Boyd on my birthday. No offers but it did contain a link. The link took me to a page with a animated birthday cake lol.
Sadly, for many on their mailing list, this might be the only birthday card they get.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 4th, 2018 at 10:36:39 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfSounds like the best offer ever.
Pretty sure I can bring a friend if you want to drive to old Henderson.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 4th, 2018 at 10:48:04 AM
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Are you asking me on an old-fashioned date? That's so sweet of you! Do you know it's proper to pick up your date and not ask them to drive themselves? (strike one)Quote: billryanPretty sure I can bring a friend if you want to drive to old Henderson.
FYI. This is a Joke. IIRC I seem to remember Ahigh or someone getting suspended for making a date comment.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 4th, 2018 at 11:18:32 AM
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So you are saying there is a chance?
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
April 12th, 2018 at 4:46:31 AM
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I would be remiss if I didn't mention an update. I stayed away or played very little in the few months after getting that insulting offer and for April, they gave me an offer of $42 at least certain days from April 1st-19th. Much better but I can't really enjoy it because they cut it up into "pieces" that I can't really "eat." I'd rather be given a $42 pizza rather than $3 slices that I can only eat on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. ;) I cannot eat the Monday and Wednesday pizza slices. Tuesday and Thursday is "No Pizza," at all. :/ Also I wasn't even aware I had any pizza at all until April 6th. :/
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
"Olive oil is processed but it only has one
ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D
"For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
April 19th, 2018 at 8:52:13 AM
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I wonder if my offers will increase since I wasn't able to use all the free play days.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
"Olive oil is processed but it only has one
ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D
"For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
April 19th, 2018 at 10:43:09 AM
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Had you skipped ALL of them, I might say there's a chance. If you collected some of them, I would think not. Perhaps they will double, and you will get $6 a pop next time.Quote: NathanI wonder if my offers will increase since I wasn't able to use all the free play days.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 19th, 2018 at 6:57:45 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfHad you skipped ALL of them, I might say there's a chance. If you collected some of them, I would think not. Perhaps they will double, and you will get $6 a pop next time.
LMAO! $3 a day is insulting, but still way better than the horrid $3 for a whole month they offered me. I went to the casino today and was told I have no more offers. Boo. They should have at least offered to let me use my unused free play for the days I couldn't come in. That would have been a good $25 in free play.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
"Olive oil is processed but it only has one
ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D
"For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
April 19th, 2018 at 11:38:07 PM
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I don't know if this is normal for a Dotty's property, but I ran a decent amount, 25$ a shot (machine limit), on a BJ machine at the River Lodge in Laughlin. (Their food is surprisingly good and decently priced for the area. Also, allegedly the cheapest alcohol and tobacco for the area.)
I got my first mail from them two months later for... one dollar a week in freeplay, must bring coupon.
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Winner for downright insulting in my book goes to another Laughlin property... two hours of black chipping, barely survived to break even before leaving... three months later (are they putting new members on a quarterly?) I tear open their mailer with some degree of excitement and fascination to receive... the discounted rate of 39 (29?) for weekday nights, call in for weekend quotes. Clearly, they underestimated my stubbornness so they had to sweeten the pot so I wouldn't pitch it into the trash with enough force to knock it over. The month after that, I get the same room rates, plus five dollars matchplay.
I got my first mail from them two months later for... one dollar a week in freeplay, must bring coupon.
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Winner for downright insulting in my book goes to another Laughlin property... two hours of black chipping, barely survived to break even before leaving... three months later (are they putting new members on a quarterly?) I tear open their mailer with some degree of excitement and fascination to receive... the discounted rate of 39 (29?) for weekday nights, call in for weekend quotes. Clearly, they underestimated my stubbornness so they had to sweeten the pot so I wouldn't pitch it into the trash with enough force to knock it over. The month after that, I get the same room rates, plus five dollars matchplay.
April 20th, 2018 at 12:08:40 AM
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We have yet to coin in at that location because we haven't had a good return at any of their properties(one mans trash). I had no idea they could send as low as $1 a week. They may have been hit on that BJ machine and are not giving anything for it. The $1 may not be from the coin in and its just part of some other marketing scheme (are you sure it's not just a typo or somthing?)Quote: VenthusI don't know if this is normal for a Dotty's property, but I ran a decent amount, 25$ a shot (machine limit), on a BJ machine at the River Lodge in Laughlin. (Their food is surprisingly good and decently priced for the area. Also, allegedly the cheapest alcohol and tobacco for the area.)
I got my first mail from them two months later for... one dollar a week in freeplay, must bring coupon.
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Winner for downright insulting in my book goes to another Laughlin property... two hours of black chipping, barely survived to break even before leaving... three months later (are they putting new members on a quarterly?) I tear open their mailer with some degree of excitement and fascination to receive... the discounted rate of 39 (29?) for weekday nights, call in for weekend quotes. Clearly, they underestimated my stubbornness so they had to sweeten the pot so I wouldn't pitch it into the trash with enough force to knock it over. The month after that, I get the same room rates, plus five dollars matchplay.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 20th, 2018 at 12:52:50 AM
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I'll put up a photo if I can find it. While low, I found it more perplexing than anything; along the lines of "How did they value me? Is this a joke mailer? What are they thinking? Do they expect to even make postage back on this offer? Would ANYBODY stop in on the strength of this?", unlike the latter which rattled off a string of mental expletives.
I guess it could be from other play and zilch off the VBJ. It continued to give bonus points, and regular points, on that machine (or did; my last trip had one bonus in like two hours, as opposed to 7-8 in three, on my prior) so it isn't shut off entirely. I suppose the scant 200-or-so I put through on the other machines is worth 1$FP/wk.
I guess it could be from other play and zilch off the VBJ. It continued to give bonus points, and regular points, on that machine (or did; my last trip had one bonus in like two hours, as opposed to 7-8 in three, on my prior) so it isn't shut off entirely. I suppose the scant 200-or-so I put through on the other machines is worth 1$FP/wk.
April 20th, 2018 at 2:23:19 AM
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$5 free play from the Revel
April 20th, 2018 at 2:05:55 PM
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Aha, here we are: https://imgur.com/a/ehOKUyY
I also like how it's "free slot play". I think I actually had this in my car the last time I was over there, but couldn't be bothered to dig it out of the trunk.
That's better than mine, depending on your outlook. That one's giving just over a 10% bonus... mine wanted ~20k for a 500 points bonus.
I also like how it's "free slot play". I think I actually had this in my car the last time I was over there, but couldn't be bothered to dig it out of the trunk.
Quote: MoosetonTotal Rewards from a couple months ago was: Earn 66700 tier credits this month, get 7000 tier credit bonus.
That's better than mine, depending on your outlook. That one's giving just over a 10% bonus... mine wanted ~20k for a 500 points bonus.
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April 21st, 2018 at 10:34:22 AM
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Quote: VenthusI don't know if this is normal for a Dotty's property, but I ran a decent amount, 25$ a shot (machine limit), on a BJ machine at the River Lodge in Laughlin. (Their food is surprisingly good and decently priced for the area. Also, allegedly the cheapest alcohol and tobacco for the area.)
I got my first mail from them two months later for... one dollar a week in freeplay, must bring coupon.
You're probably being insulting to Dotty's. Whenever I get such mailers, they always double the last week's offer to $2 to make it really worthwhile!
I addressed recent changes in Dotty's in my April 17 column at gamblingwithanedge.com, with the follow-up to that column going to be posted on April 24
April 21st, 2018 at 10:36:16 AM
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For years, the Silverton in Las Vegas advertised on every machine that if you come in on your birthday you'll get 1,000 free points. At that casino, it's worth $3 in free play.
April 21st, 2018 at 10:38:10 AM
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I got an offer on the TR app for a Diamond gift.
When I went to pick it up, the guy swiped my card and said nah you don't get one.
When I went to pick it up, the guy swiped my card and said nah you don't get one.
April 21st, 2018 at 10:41:49 AM
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Quote: gamerfreakI got an offer on the TR app for a Diamond gift.
When I went to pick it up, the guy swiped my card and said nah you don't get one.
I think that one wins the award for being the most insulting.
The lowest value one I've ever seen was from Main Street Station. Played about $1,000 on machines; at any other Boyd property that would be worth at least $5 per week. They started sending me coupons for $1 off a steak dinner.
April 21st, 2018 at 10:49:06 AM
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Quote: TomGI think that one wins the award for being the most insulting.
The lowest value one I've ever seen was from Main Street Station. Played about $1,000 on machines; at any other Boyd property that would be worth at least $5 per week. They started sending me coupons for $1 off a steak dinner.
That's really stinky. Play $1,000 and get $1 offof a steak dinner? Smells just as bad as rotten fish that fell in a sewer to me! :/
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
"Olive oil is processed but it only has one
ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D
"For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
April 21st, 2018 at 10:50:46 AM
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Quote: gamerfreakI got an offer on the TR app for a Diamond gift.
When I went to pick it up, the guy swiped my card and said nah you don't get one.
What happened to you was disgusting. I'd be steaming mad if I were told I was going to get a Diamond gift only to be told I don't get one when I got there. :/
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
"Olive oil is processed but it only has one
ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D
"For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
April 21st, 2018 at 11:03:03 AM
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Today at the M resort in Las Vegas, you can earn $5 in free play for playing 300 tier credits --- which requires $600 coin-in for video poker. Limit $25 bonus for $3,000 video poker coin-in.
As promotions go, this is pretty piddly. Except:
Local players already have free play to pick up on Friday or Saturday or Sunday this weekend. If you have to go anyway . . .
They are already offering 2x points for video poker (0.6% rather than 0.3%). If you're a quarter or dollar single-line player they have a variety of games better than 99.5%. (Higher stakes are limited to 98.98%)
For some players (invited guests --- I don't know how extensive the invitation list is) there are drawings at 4, 5, and 6 p.m. where most of your entries are based on coin-in since 4 a.m. Friday morning. I played relatively heavily yesterday (because of a drawing last night) so today's $3,000 coin-in slightly increases my already reasonable chances. I have no solid estimate of my EV (too many unknown variables), but I estimate it is in the "several hundred dollars" range --- which makes it worthwhile to show up.
Playing $2,000 or more video poker coin-in earns you a free buffet --- which retails for $42
Somewhere along the way between Jan 1 - June 30 (or July 1 - Dec 31), you need to qualify for whatever tier status you desire. Playing most or all of that on +EV days makes sense.
My point in all of this is that concentrating on individual offers is just the tip of the iceberg. Would I make a special trip to play $3,000 to earn $25 in free play if there was nothing else going on? Probably not --- although there have been times in my life where I valued my time less and I would definitely have gone.
Is the same promotion worthwhile when everything else is added in? Absolutely! It's like I'm getting an extra $25 on a day where I'm already a pretty big EV favorite. Bring on MORE of these insulting promotions!
As promotions go, this is pretty piddly. Except:
Local players already have free play to pick up on Friday or Saturday or Sunday this weekend. If you have to go anyway . . .
They are already offering 2x points for video poker (0.6% rather than 0.3%). If you're a quarter or dollar single-line player they have a variety of games better than 99.5%. (Higher stakes are limited to 98.98%)
For some players (invited guests --- I don't know how extensive the invitation list is) there are drawings at 4, 5, and 6 p.m. where most of your entries are based on coin-in since 4 a.m. Friday morning. I played relatively heavily yesterday (because of a drawing last night) so today's $3,000 coin-in slightly increases my already reasonable chances. I have no solid estimate of my EV (too many unknown variables), but I estimate it is in the "several hundred dollars" range --- which makes it worthwhile to show up.
Playing $2,000 or more video poker coin-in earns you a free buffet --- which retails for $42
Somewhere along the way between Jan 1 - June 30 (or July 1 - Dec 31), you need to qualify for whatever tier status you desire. Playing most or all of that on +EV days makes sense.
My point in all of this is that concentrating on individual offers is just the tip of the iceberg. Would I make a special trip to play $3,000 to earn $25 in free play if there was nothing else going on? Probably not --- although there have been times in my life where I valued my time less and I would definitely have gone.
Is the same promotion worthwhile when everything else is added in? Absolutely! It's like I'm getting an extra $25 on a day where I'm already a pretty big EV favorite. Bring on MORE of these insulting promotions!
April 21st, 2018 at 11:13:38 AM
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Quote: gamerfreakI got an offer on the TR app for a Diamond gift.
When I went to pick it up, the guy swiped my card and said nah you don't get one.
I would not have let that drop with just one guy saying 'nah.'
Assuming we're talking about a phone app that I had with me, I would have asked to see a supervisor and shown him/her the message that says I get the 'whatever it was'. Without being loud or angry about it, I would have explained that i made a special trip just because the app said I was going to get it. If we're talking about something 'valuable' like a TV, I'd me more forceful. If we're talking about a $5 'casino crap' logo cup that matches nothing, I wouldn't make such a big deal out of it.
Supervisors have authority to "make things right." I would have given this one a chance to do that!
Now, if the the supervisor told me there was nothing that could be done, I would have made a judgment call concerning the value of the gift and the likelihood I'd be kicked out if I made a big stink.
Remember, showing anger is an option to be used in special cases when it can be useful. For me anyway, it is not the default.
April 21st, 2018 at 11:15:11 AM
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Now if only their sister properties across the country had similar promos. Hollywood Toledo has $5 NSUD, 9/7 TDB, 35/8/5 BP and the $1 and $2 Triple Deuces Wild (99.92%).
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
April 21st, 2018 at 11:57:04 AM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesNow if only their sister properties across the country had similar promos. Hollywood Toledo has $5 NSUD, 9/7 TDB, 35/8/5 BP and the $1 and $2 Triple Deuces Wild (99.92%).
It's hard to imagine a 99.92% game isn't positive. Getting to ICON ($800,000 coin-in every six months) on a 99.92% game costs less than $700 on average --- with considerable swings given that the only hands you really care about are $3,000 or $4,000 if you're playing for dollars, or twice that amount if you're playing for $2.. If you value cruises at all, the heavily discounted cruise is worth considerably more than that. You get a $500 Icon trip each year to another property. Surely you get some mailers and other goodies that are worth something.
Probably the biggest factor in whether that's a positive play is the state tax policy on W2Gs. Triple Deuces at $1 or $2 gives you a W2G every 4000 hands or so --- averaging $120K in W2Gs or so to play $800,000. I don't know Ohio's tax policies.
Another factor is the variance. Triple Deuces has a variance of 96. You need non-trivial bankroll (both financial and psychological) to play this at the $1 or $2 level. For players who get upset at losing a lot TODAY, this is not the game for you. If you don't hit the every-4400-hands deuces or every-45,000-hands royal, you're going to be behind by a lot. And most days you play only a few hours, you're not going to hit one of those premium hands.
April 21st, 2018 at 12:02:55 PM
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Ohio's tax policy is the clincher. You cannot write off losses. Being out of state, they automatically deduct state income tax as well. Plus travel to get there. It's an hour and a half drive from my area.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
April 21st, 2018 at 1:07:04 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesOhio's tax policy is the clincher. You cannot write off losses. Being out of state, they automatically deduct state income tax as well. Plus travel to get there. It's an hour and a half drive from my area.
You can file and get a refund of state taxes if you are from another state,but the city taxes you can't get back.
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