Trump's Final 100 days
Quote: SteverinosDefending racial remarks by deflecting is also disgusting.
I'm thinking of creating a new drinking game where you take a shot every time Boz deflects from Donald's stupidity by bringing up how well the stock market is doing.
Quote: terapinedQuote: BozQuote: TigerWuI mean, there might be a good reason for that...
Can't be liberal bias, either, because look how well Bush did:/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9372457/Screen_Shot_2017_09_29_at_11.42.12_AM.png)
Or it’s because no one has even threatened everything they believe in like Trump.
He made the media his b**ch and continues to do so. And his followers eat it up.
Media bias? Not even a debate anymore.
1st President that's an a**hole
You obviously never met James K. Polk.
Quote: Boz... (snip)
I’m middle class and so are most of my friends. And everyone of us owns stocks or mutual funds and is happy with the gains in the last 8 years. Certainly makes thinking about retirement easier. Vanguard and Fidelity both saw record influx of cash from individual investors last year. How is that a bad thing to you?
And I for one have NO issue giving welfare to poor people who need it. But I’m also just as sure you and I would never agree on who “needs” it and who doesn’t. But personal responsibility in life is just too hard of a concept for many liberals. Mirror mirror.
This is something you and I agree on. I don't like able-bodied people not working. Any infrastructure investment should include putting people to work in the many, many jobs needing filling by unskilled labor.
Another huge underserved need is affordable child care. There's no reason many people can't work in this field in supervised conditions, making it cost-effective for parents to eithe work there, or elsewhere without it being a zero-sum transaction.
Another is the base-level work of caring for sick or elderly people.
Lots of other not-great jobs go begging. Even if welfare recipients were required to work half-time, they would still be EARNING their subsistence. While we still need to provide paths to healthcare everyone can afford,
Building this country meant everyone worked at something. Nobody expected a handout. Even hobos in the Great Depression wanted to provide some kind of day labor for a meal, not just be fed. My grandmother fed so many out the back door for wood chopping, painting, whatever chore, and it was mutually beneficial. Those are values worth bringing back (not the Depression, but the work ethic and the compassion).
Am I the only person who wonders sometimes where the people come from who are constantly picking up (cleaning)in casinos? They seem to be all ages, all demographics, all intelligence levels. If casinos can put them to work, so can many other entities, including government at all levels.
Quote: ams288I'm thinking of creating a new drinking game where you take a shot every time Boz deflects from Donald's stupidity by bringing up how well the stock market is doing.
Wait......you haven't been drinking while posting all this time?
Quote: beachbumbabsThis is something you and I agree on. I don't like able-bodied people not working. Any infrastructure investment should include putting people to work in the many, many jobs needing filling by unskilled labor.
Another huge underserved need is affordable child care. There's no reason many people can't work in this field in supervised conditions, making it cost-effective for parents to eithe work there, or elsewhere without it being a zero-sum transaction.
Another is the base-level work of caring for sick or elderly people.
Lots of other not-great jobs go begging. Even if welfare recipients were required to work half-time, they would still be EARNING their subsistence. While we still need to provide paths to healthcare everyone can afford,
Building this country meant everyone worked at something. Nobody expected a handout. Even hobos in the Great Depression wanted to provide some kind of day labor for a meal, not just be fed. My grandmother fed so many out the back door for wood chopping, painting, whatever chore, and it was mutually beneficial. Those are values worth bringing back (not the Depression, but the work ethic and the compassion).
Am I the only person who wonders sometimes where the people come from who are constantly picking up (cleaning)in casinos? They seem to be all ages, all demographics, all intelligence levels. If casinos can put them to work, so can many other entities, including government at all levels.
Common sense solutions. It’s sad both parties are too stubborn to do such deals anymore. Win/ win is a forgotten concept in government. And the blame for that doesn’t start or end with either party.
Quote: RSWait......you haven't been drinking while posting all this time?
Should I PM the moderators about this personal insult?
Isn't that how this forum works now?
Trump posted the fake news award winners but the site crashed due to high demand. Or he just hired the same fools who designed the HC site for Obama.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/17/president-trump-reveals-winners-his-fake-news-awards.html
This link is working.
And for AMS, how about that Krugman prediction!
Quote: BozBut personal responsibility in life is just too hard of a concept for many liberals. Mirror mirror.
Not just liberals, all Americans. If you're an R, blame Obama, the Welfare Queens and the D side for everything instead of taking any responsibility. If you're a D, blame Trump, the racists and the R side for everything instead of taking any responsibility. While everyone wants to redistribute wealth by taking it away from taxpayers and put it into fighting wars. And if someone wants to actually take personal responsibility by moving to a place where they would have freedom, we just build a wall and keep them out.
Quote: BozWill never understand why some liberals hate average Americans who made the SACRIFICE to save and invest getting richer on their investments. Should everyone just count on SS? Don’t answer that, I already know the answer, Government Care, cradle to grave.
I’m middle class and so are most of my friends. And everyone of us owns stocks or mutual funds and is happy with the gains in the last 8 years. Certainly makes thinking about retirement easier. Vanguard and Fidelity both saw record influx of cash from individual investors last year. How is that a bad thing to you?
And I for one have NO issue giving welfare to poor people who need it. But I’m also just as sure you and I would never agree on who “needs” it and who doesn’t. But personal responsibility in life is just too hard of a concept for many liberals. Mirror mirror.
But neither you nor i should agree on who needs it. That should be determined by the govt and whatever criteria is set
Those criteria may be too stringent for me and too lax for you. Thats why they are determined by lawmakers
Quote: SteverinosNah. Considering his past remarks and his avatar, the odds of that joke being about something other than Obama's race is next to nothing. Trying to pass it off as something else is laughable.
Quote: SteverinosHe's referred to Obama as a "Kenyan Pickpocketer" several times on this board. Fine. If you want to say he just meant that he's really from Kenya and that he steals people money, fine. Whatever you say.
I'm getting real tired of you going on and on accusing me of being a racist. It is a personal insult, but fortunately for you there is biased moderation on this site. Just as the reporters are showing their bias against Trump.
Yes, Obama has a high probability of being from Kenya according to his own Grandma and brother. There is even a statue commemorating him in his birthplace in Kenya. Yes, he has been pick pocketing hard working people since his community organizer days. Democrats typically cause increases in taxes, Yes, I have been referring to him as the Kenyan pickpocket'r for quite some time now. That is clearly not racist. It is based on facts that others continue to deny.
You have just shown that you knew of me referring to Obama in that manner. So why are you surprised that I said that I assume Trump is protecting his wallet. You continuing to insult me by trying to portray me as a racist is uncalled for.
Quote: ams288Should I PM the moderators about this personal insult?
Isn't that how this forum works now?
Are you trolling with the ol' bait 'n switch? C'mon now....
I'm gonna play a drinking game!
You haven't been?
OMG! Safe space plz!
I own mutual funds and stocks too, and I would like them to rise as well. I also count on my CPP/OAS (Canada) and SSI (USA) for my pension income, and either the US health care system (Medicare) and OHIP (Canada) to take care of me when I am retired. I also work hard. Most middle class people will be relying on both of those safety nets for their wealth. Not many people are going to have the savings set aside money to self-pay their own health insurance and their own retirement.
Nonetheless the stock market valuation is only one measure of how good a country is doing.
Quote: RSAre you trolling with the ol' bait 'n switch? C'mon now....
I'm gonna play a drinking game!
You haven't been?
OMG! Safe space plz!Accusing someone of being a troll is a personal insult. Saying that someone is trolling is not a personal insult. At least according to the mods here, so just wanted to throw out that reminder.
Why is your name still in blue?
Clearly the moderators are biased against my political views! Waaaaaahhh!
Quote: RogerKintQuote: terapinedQuote: BozQuote: TigerWuI mean, there might be a good reason for that...
Can't be liberal bias, either, because look how well Bush did:
Or it’s because no one has even threatened everything they believe in like Trump.
He made the media his b**ch and continues to do so. And his followers eat it up.
Media bias? Not even a debate anymore.
1st President that's an a**hole
You obviously never met James K. Polk.
Polk was never my President. I'm not that old lol
Again
Why do you care about the news I watch?
Fox news claims to be fair and balanced but is 100% against libs.
Breibart is 100% against libs
That's bias yet I could care less
I am fine with Fox and Breibart being 100% against libs and therefore TOTALLY biased
Its called freedom of the press which I totally support
So no new news today... just continued donald is a piece of trash.
EDIT: Apparently even "InTouch" magazine verified her account with 2 independent sources and made her take a polygraph test. lol... but donald never lies, right??? Did you know the word gullible isn't in the dictionary?!?!
Quote: RomesBtw for any and all curious about the Stormy Daniels porn star affair with Donald... It happened in 2006, and you're all "but she signed something in 2018 before the election!" ...yeah but she also gave InTouch magazine the full affair story in 2011. So she DID come out and talk about it 7 years ago, and as time the election was rolling around trump attempted to "hush" her about it by having her sign something in exchange for money, just like she said.
So no new news today... just continued donald is a piece of trash.
I'm not disturbed by Donald's consensual sex with a porn star.
However, I am disturbed that FOX News had this story in Oct. 2016 and killed it.
And I am even more disturbed that Donald told the porn star she reminded him of his daughter (YUCK!).
Quote: terapinedQuote: RogerKintQuote: terapinedQuote: BozQuote: TigerWuI mean, there might be a good reason for that...
Can't be liberal bias, either, because look how well Bush did:
Or it’s because no one has even threatened everything they believe in like Trump.
He made the media his b**ch and continues to do so. And his followers eat it up.
Media bias? Not even a debate anymore.
1st President that's an a**hole
You obviously never met James K. Polk.
Polk was never my President. I'm not that old lol
Again
Why do you care about the news I watch?
Fox news claims to be fair and balanced but is 100% against libs.
Breibart is 100% against libs
That's bias yet I could care less
I am fine with Fox and Breibart being 100% against libs and therefore TOTALLY biased
Its called freedom of the press which I totally support
If anyone forgot to include his middle initial when saying his name, he came unglued.
You must have me confused with someone else because I don't give a rat's which propaganda station you choose to program your brain with.
With the revelations of her hubby's inidelity recently being made public I think it would be great were she to file for divorce.
Quote: MaxPenI'm getting real tired of you going on and on accusing me of being a racist. It is a personal insult, but fortunately for you there is biased moderation on this site. Just as the reporters are showing their bias against Trump.
Yes, Obama has a high probability of being from Kenya according to his own Grandma and brother. There is even a statue commemorating him in his birthplace in Kenya. Yes, he has been pick pocketing hard working people since his community organizer days. Democrats typically cause increases in taxes, Yes, I have been referring to him as the Kenyan pickpocket'r for quite some time now. That is clearly not racist. It is based on facts that others continue to deny.
You have just shown that you knew of me referring to Obama in that manner. So why are you surprised that I said that I assume Trump is protecting his wallet. You continuing to insult me by trying to portray me as a racist is uncalled for.
Excuse me, but the birther movement IS a racist movement, whether you want to believe it or not. What facts? What facts that others are denying exist that say a) Obama steals other people's money and b) that he was not born in Hawaii? Lay them out. Let's see them.
I can tell you the facts that show he was born in Hawaii. Let's see. His name was published in the newspapers in 1961. His name appears on the 1960-1964 birth index from the state of Hawaii, READILY available at the vital records office at the Department of Health in Honolulu. And when I say "readily", I mean, that Trump's make-believe investigative team that he sent to Hawaii to uncover the truth could EASILY find it. Obama released his Certificate of Live Birth that CLEARLY states he was born in Hawaii and DOES NOT state that he is a Muslim, lol.
And for the record, I said your post was rotten, because it was. I didn't say it was racist until others chimed in and said it wasn't. But if you want to say ridiculous things about somebody, accusing them of stealing other people's money and that he is not a real American citizen, you're going to get some push-back. Do you believe McCain is an American? Ted Cruz? There were questions about their citizenship as well, but I didn't see those questions being asked with the same veracity.
If you want to make the case that birtherism isn't inherently rooted in racism, then you'd also HAVE to make the case that birtherism is inherently rooted in stupidity.
Quote: MaxPenTrump would never mess around with a porn star. The dude is a germaphobe to the Nth degree. Always has been. He is also very traditional in his relationships.
Do you mistakenly believe that because porn stars have lots of sex they must harbor diseases?
Traditionally since the late 80s they have had a very low std rate due to stringent testing. If you are having multiple sex partners all day long as your meal ticket no reason to go have it with strangers. Its actually a very closed knit community because of the risk of std
Quote: MrVMelania has hardly been inspirational as a First Lady, but then who would be anything other than depressed, defanged and minimalized if married to Trump?
With the revelations of her hubby's inidelity recently being made public I think it would be great were she to file for divorce.
Melania and Donald reportedly sleep in separate bedrooms. That tells you all you need to know about their relationship.
Quote: ams288Melania and Donald reportedly sleep in separate bedrooms. That tells you all you need to know about their relationship.
Melania must snore? Does the report also say they have intercourse in separate rooms? and would the report be considered to be #fake news?
I think the answers are yes, perhaps, and yes
So, ams288, cheap shot. You're an ageist!
As for the birther movement, of course it is a racist movement for the reasons stated above. He clearly was born in Hawaii (Trump even admitted this) and really, once the birth certificate was produced (which would have had to been produced anyway to declare his candidacy) there should have been no doubt that he was qualified to be president. Instead, years of the birther movement went on, led by Trump and the idiots at Fox and Breitbart.
Given that all of the 11 stories on the Fakeys last night were retracted as soon as realized (except the last one, still under investigation), perhaps the #1 FakeNews story should be Obama's birth certificate perpetuated by his own party. For eight years, Trump did not retract his FakeNews. Add to that the 6 - 7 lies and half-truths he manufactures every day on average, and you have a very white kettle calling the pot white.
Quote: mcallister3200Does the report also say they have intercourse in separate rooms?
Well, I certainly hope Melania isn't in the room while Donald is cheating on her with porn stars!!!
Quote: ams288Well, I certainly hope Melania isn't in the room while Donald is cheating on her with porn stars!!!
I found a picture of Melania without make-up on...
So this thread is a constant headache of "am I being trolled?? ...no one can really believe this garbage, right?"Quote: IbeatyouracesI found a picture of Melania without make-up on...
Thank you for keeping comedy alive and providing me with a laugh in this awful, depressing thread.
I think my faith in humanity would be restored if both the NRA and trump were found in serious legal trouble.Quote: rsactuarySo there is reporting today by many sites that Mueller is looking at whether Russia funneled money to Trump with help from the NRA. Would be awesome to take them both down at the same time! LaPierre and Trump could be cell buddies! IYKWIM
Quote:WASHINGTON — Nearly a year after President Trump’s inauguration, the committee that raised a record $106.7 million for the event has not disclosed how much surplus money it still has or provided a final accounting of its finances.
Always seems to be a similar pattern with Trump organization.
Quote:But Kerrigan, who is running for Congress from Massachusetts, said it’s “shocking” that Trump’s team is not disclosing more information about how they are spending the record amount they collected for relatively modest celebrations. Trump attended three official balls, for instance, compared to Obama’s 10.
“It is alarming that you would potentially have at least $50 million left over and no sense of how it was spent,” he said. Kerrigan said if he’s elected to Congress, he would draft a bill to create more transparency in inaugural spending.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/one-year-after-trumps-inauguration-no-one-will-say-how-they-spent-the-extra-money/ar-AAuRvw0?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp&ffid=gz
http://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/
He's up to 1,021 for those that just want the cliff notes. lol how can people get so swindled, and then not have the nerve to just say "yeah, I got conned, but not anymore!" trump is a, verifiable, joke.
But let's do our own diversion by publishing one of Trump's lies per day.
Today's gem:
Quote: President Trump, to West Palm Beach Fire Rescue, December 29, 2017
"You know, one of the things that people don't understand, we have signed more legislation than anybody -- we broke the record of Harry Truman."
Fact: According to legislative tracking website GovTrack, Trump finished 2017 with the fewest bills signed of any president in the last 64 years who was elected as president (that is, excluding Johnson and Ford): fewer than Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, H.W. Bush, Clinton, W. Bush, and Obama.
Trump has repeated this claim 19 times.
Quote: RomesSo this thread is a constant headache of "am I being trolled?? ...no one can really believe this garbage, right?"
I thought so, a year ago. Now I'm of the mind it's actually genuine, and I regret everything.
For those who do care about proper discourse and debate, I've been meaning to do something about this thread. It was I who unilaterally stated I was going to ease up on the banhammer where this topic was concerned, so I feel a pretty strong sense of fault for the dirt that's found within. I think of and have thought of this thread daily for several weeks; I keep delaying action because I am admittedly too emotionally involved to access and be lead by logic. By that I mean a good deal of this s#$% is so blindingly stupid I do not know how to "fix" it without mass purging, locking, and suspensions, all of which I either never do or do so rarely. So here I sit.
I dunno. Someone told me recently that change comes by starting with the small stuff, so might as well do that. And so we're clear, there's no new rules, no pro-rated action, no bulls#%$ games or emotionally driven curve balls. But the tune of this thread needs to be corrected back towards the level of propriety this place was once known for. Here's hoping y'all do that bit of work for me.
Please and thanks.
Quote: FaceI thought so, a year ago. Now I'm of the mind it's actually genuine, and I regret everything.
For those who do care about proper discourse and debate, I've been meaning to do something about this thread. It was I who unilaterally stated I was going to ease up on the banhammer where this topic was concerned, so I feel a pretty strong sense of fault for the dirt that's found within. I think of and have thought of this thread daily for several weeks; I keep delaying action because I am admittedly too emotionally involved to access and be lead by logic. By that I mean a good deal of this s#$% is so blindingly stupid I do not know how to "fix" it without mass purging, locking, and suspensions, all of which I either never do or do so rarely. So here I sit.
I dunno. Someone told me recently that change comes by starting with the small stuff, so might as well do that. And so we're clear, there's no new rules, no pro-rated action, no bulls#%$ games or emotionally driven curve balls. But the tune of this thread needs to be corrected back towards the level of propriety this place was once known for. Here's hoping y'all do that bit of work for me.
Please and thanks.
But we can’t do it that without knowing which side you are on first.😉
Come on people, can’t anyone take a joke anymore?
Quote: BozBut we can’t do it that without knowing which side you are on first.😉
I don't have a side. But I'm sure I'll be given one by the time this is done ;)
I'd appreciate the help and the perspective. There are several moderation issues here, as you know, which is how you came to your previous stance.Quote: FaceI thought so, a year ago. Now I'm of the mind it's actually genuine, and I regret everything.
For those who do care about proper discourse and debate, I've been meaning to do something about this thread. It was I who unilaterally stated I was going to ease up on the banhammer where this topic was concerned, so I feel a pretty strong sense of fault for the dirt that's found within. I think of and have thought of this thread daily for several weeks; I keep delaying action because I am admittedly too emotionally involved to access and be lead by logic. By that I mean a good deal of this s#$% is so blindingly stupid I do not know how to "fix" it without mass purging, locking, and suspensions, all of which I either never do or do so rarely. So here I sit.
I dunno. Someone told me recently that change comes by starting with the small stuff, so might as well do that. And so we're clear, there's no new rules, no pro-rated action, no bulls#%$ games or emotionally driven curve balls. But the tune of this thread needs to be corrected back towards the level of propriety this place was once known for. Here's hoping y'all do that bit of work for me.
Please and thanks.
It's very difficult to stand apart from some of the inflammatory language and positions. I am certain that at least some posts are trolls and gaslighting rather than truly representing people, but which?. Also, public figures do not enjoy member protection. And many of the particulars being discussed are themselves offensive or profane.
There have been many suspensions from this thread. Some people find it enormously entertaining. I find it distressing, and perhaps add to the turmoil by speaking my mind. But so many of these things must be challenged. If they are allowed to stand, the concepts that are tearing the country apart continue by silent acclimation.
So I don't know. Those having responsible conversations agree that they're going to be uncomfortable ones. But they need to be voiced.
It's the festering of so much resentment and fear that's brought us to this point in the first place. Suppressing the discussion for ugly content (outside of profanity or other rule violations) would almost require a total political ban, which again solves nothing; it just hides it.
So we're back to very difficult moderation. No matter who gets popped, that person's political allies will take umbrage. Part of the entertainment factor is, for many, seeing how far they can push the outrage or the rule boundaries.
Your thoughts are welcome.
Yes, and I may be mistaken. However, in my mind, when I think of hookers and porn stars (especially hookers) I think of diseases and some other stuff I won't mention on here.Quote: darkozDo you mistakenly believe that because porn stars have lots of sex they must harbor diseases?
I have never had any real interest in having sex with hookers, it just doesn't do it for me. I will engage in conversations with them and I have nothing against them or what they do.
Quote: AxelWolfYes, and I may be mistaken. However, in my mind, when I think of hookers and porn stars (especially hookers) I think of diseases and some other stuff I won't mention on here.
I have never had any real interest in having sex with hookers, it just doesn't do it for me. I will engage in conversations with them and I have nothing against them or what they do.
I would all but guarantee that disease in hookers will be a higher percentage than disease in non hookers.
Quote: GwoAEI would all but guarantee that disease in hookers will be a higher percentage than disease in non hookers.
I would guess the opposite, at least where hookers are registered. Probably so where it's illegal.
Quote: beachbumbabsI would guess the opposite, at least where hookers are registered. Probably so where it's illegal.
I am not talking brothels and such. I am talking the traditional crack wh%$@#
Quote: boymimboAwesome. Mind you, the Toronto Star is kind of Canada's equivalent to the New York Times.
But let's do our own diversion by publishing one of Trump's lies per day.
Today's gem:
Fact: According to legislative tracking website GovTrack, Trump finished 2017 with the fewest bills signed of any president in the last 64 years who was elected as president (that is, excluding Johnson and Ford): fewer than Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, H.W. Bush, Clinton, W. Bush, and Obama.
Trump has repeated this claim 19 times.
Omg. World ending. Sky falling too.
Quote: RomesHoly Crap, one of my new favorite websites to check daily/weekly... A website that keeps track of all of the VERIFIABLE LIES trump has told, just since taking office!
http://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/
He's up to 1,021 for those that just want the cliff notes. lol how can people get so swindled, and then not have the nerve to just say "yeah, I got conned, but not anymore!" trump is a, verifiable, joke.
sigh
Quote: RealDonaldTrumpCHAIN MIGRATION must end now! Some people come in, and they bring their whole family with them, who can be truly evil. NOT ACCEPTABLE!
Chain Migration does not exist.
When you come in and are granted a green card, you also are allowed to bring over your wife and unmarried children under the age of 21. You cannot bring any other relatives until you are granted citizenship. Once you are granted citizenship, you are allowed to apply for other relatives, but these petitions take a very long time to do. Your application is considered based on the priority date:
Here is the Family Based Visa waitlist chart (the priority date):
Source: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/family-immigration/family-based-immigrant-visas.html
Family-class All except INDIA MEXICO PHILIPPINES
F1 15MAR11 15MAR11 01MAY96 01JAN05 Unmarried sons and daughters of US citizens.
F2A 01FEB16 01FEB16 01JAN16 01FEB16 Spouses + Unmarried sons and daughters of LPRs (Green Card Holders)
F2B 01DEC10 01DEC10 15AUG96 01JUL06 Unmarried Sons and Daughters over 21 of LPRs
F3 08OCT05 08OCT05 15JUN95 15MAR95 Married Sons and Daughters + spouses and unmarried children of US Citizens
F4 22JUN04 15DEC03 01NOV97 01SEP94 Brothers and Sisters of US Citizens.
See those wait times: It is almost 7 years for sons and daughters, 12 years for Married Sons and Daughters, and 13 years for brothers and sisters. All of those applicants are subject to criminal background checks, job checks, interviews and a multitude of vetting that ensures their worthiness to come over.
And once you hit your priority date, then USCIS will look at the application. The vetting process then takes between 1 year (F1) to 3 years (F4).
The shortest timeframe is Spouses and unmarried sons/daughters of LPRS at 2 years + the 1 year waiting time = 3 years. That applies to me; if I want to bring my 21 year old daughter over as an LPR, the wait time will be at least 9 years.
Chain migration is not happening per Trump's claim. Fake news.
Crack whores give prostitutes a bad rap.Quote: GWAEI am not talking brothels and such. I am talking the traditional crack wh%$@#
Real professionals are as much social worker, as they are sex advocates. .
Similar to the question: do you go to a bar to get drunk, when it is one fifth the price at home?
Quote: boymimbo
Chain migration is not happening per Trump's claim. Fake news.
BUT, did he win a Fake News Award?
Checkmate, haters.
Quote: TigerWuBUT, did he win a Fake News Award?
Checkmate, haters.
Like some of his followers like to brag about, Trump speaks his mind. Great.
Although there is another old saying about being silent rather than speaking and removing all doubt. Pretty sure he never heard of that one.
Quote: beachbumbabsI'd appreciate the help and the perspective. There are several moderation issues here, as you know, which is how you came to your previous stance.
It's very difficult to stand apart from some of the inflammatory language and positions. I am certain that at least some posts are trolls and gaslighting rather than truly representing people, but which?. Also, public figures do not enjoy member protection. And many of the particulars being discussed are themselves offensive or profane.
There have been many suspensions from this thread. Some people find it enormously entertaining. I find it distressing, and perhaps add to the turmoil by speaking my mind. But so many of these things must be challenged. If they are allowed to stand, the concepts that are tearing the country apart continue by silent acclimation.
So I don't know. Those having responsible conversations agree that they're going to be uncomfortable ones. But they need to be voiced.
It's the festering of so much resentment and fear that's brought us to this point in the first place. Suppressing the discussion for ugly content (outside of profanity or other rule violations) would almost require a total political ban, which again solves nothing; it just hides it.
So we're back to very difficult moderation. No matter who gets popped, that person's political allies will take umbrage. Part of the entertainment factor is, for many, seeing how far they can push the outrage or the rule boundaries.
Your thoughts are welcome.
Yep, have to polish the ban hammers in order to stomp out all the truths that are getting ready to come out into the light.
The winner of the Fake News Award was neither "fake" nor "news." It was an opinion piece involving a failed prediction.
The Fake News Awards are therefore literally fake news... haha... So meta!
Quote: MaxPenYep, have to polish the ban hammers in order to stomp out all the truths that are getting ready to come out into the light.
I hope you're talking about the #releasethememo.
If not, doesn't matter.
For some reason the rightwing thinks that can end the Mueller investigation. Because of actual facts of how the whole thing started, it won't.
It might take out some players if there is anything to it. That's about it.
Quote: rxwineI hope you're talking about the #releasethememo.
Hey, Sean Hannity said it was going to be bigger than Watergate!
Of course, seeing as how much he foamed at the mouth when Obama wore a tan suit and ate mustard, "bigger than Watergate" probably translates to little more than a couple of typos and a crude penis drawn in a margin somewhere.
