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November 16th, 2017 at 7:37:43 AM permalink

Quote: SanchoPanza
The facts sure didn't bother voters in the cases of Bill Clinton and Teddy Kennedy.

First, Bill Clinton and Teddy Kennedy may have been sexual predictors (hitting on/sleeping with WOMEN), but not RAPISTS of 14 year old GIRLS.

Secondly, WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THEM. DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE TOPIC OF A REPUBLICAN CHILD RAPIST GETTING ELECTED.

Everyone, I sincerely wish you to watch this as it's got good information, and just maybe perhaps you'll see just how the CON finally works:

Direct Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZAPwfrtAFY

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November 16th, 2017 at 7:53:26 AM permalink

Quote: Romes
First, Bill Clinton and Teddy Kennedy may have been sexual predictors (hitting on/sleeping with WOMEN), but not RAPISTS of 14 year old GIRLS.

Secondly, WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THEM. DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE TOPIC OF A REPUBLICAN CHILD RAPIST GETTING ELECTED.

Everyone, I sincerely wish you to watch this as it's got good information, and just maybe perhaps you'll see just how the CON finally works:

Direct Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZAPwfrtAFY

I think you copy/pasted the wrong link. That's a link to John Oliver. Lol

Sancho's not trying to change the subject, but trying to show the hypocrisy.

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November 16th, 2017 at 7:59:24 AM permalink

Quote: RS
Sancho's not trying to change the subject, but trying to show the hypocrisy.

The problem
There are hypocrites on the left and right
Sancho is trying to expose left leaning hypocrites but silent on the hypocrites on the right
I like to expose ALL hypocrites on this subject
I hate ALL sexual predators including Bill Clinton and Donald Trump

When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums

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November 16th, 2017 at 8:04:43 AM permalink

Quote: terapined
Quote: RS
Quote: terapined
Hypocrite on the right complaining about hypocrites on the left?
ROTFL

Just pointing out that many politicians as well as many voters who defend Trump and Moore were raking Bill Clinton over the coals.
If you defend Bill Clinton but attack Donald Trump over being a sexual predator. You are a hypocrite.
If you defend Trump but attack Bill Clinton over being a sexual predator, you are a hypocrite
I will never ever defend ANY sexual predator
Roy Moore is a sicko
How about you Sanchopaza? Are you a hypocrite
Are you against ALL sexual predators?
or
Do you give some sexual predators a pass because of politics?

Bill Clinton is a disgusting sexual predator
Donald Trump is a disgusting sexual predator
Do you agree Sancho?

Banhammer in 3.....2....

I am asking if he is a hypocrite
I am not saying he is a hypocrite
For all I know, Sanchopaza agrees with me and hates All sexual predators
Cmon Sancho
Get on the anti sexual predator team
:-)

You called him a hypocrite in the very first sentence of the post above, "Hypocrite on the right..."

The intent behind "Are you an idiot?" is not truly asking if the person is an idiot, but to call that person an idiot. My roommate in college got in trouble because he told an RA, "You can suck my d***!" Do you think anyone was like, "Well, he said that she COULD do it, which technically, she can do. It's not like he told her to do it, so he's not in trouble" ???

Liberals love playing off of sneaky technicalities. Smh

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November 16th, 2017 at 8:06:45 AM permalink

Quote: RS
...Sancho's not trying to change the subject, but trying to show the hypocrisy.

Show hypocrisy... by CHANGING THE SUBJECT (to something not even equal btw).

You should seriously watch that. It literally explains exactly what sancho (and many other have been doing and are doing in this and the last thread).

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...Liberals love playing off of sneaky technicalities. Smh

Those damn "technicalities" such as facts and logic... Damn them.

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November 16th, 2017 at 8:13:31 AM permalink

Quote: terapined
The problem
There are hypocrites on the left and right
Sancho is trying to expose left leaning hypocrites but silent on the hypocrites on the right
I like to expose ALL hypocrites on this subject
I hate ALL sexual predators including Bill Clinton and Donald Trump

Yes, there are good and bad people on both sides.

So he is exposing hypocrites on the left, an honorable and just thing to do. What's the problem? He's not exposing hypocrites on the right? What about the environmentalists or scientists or mathematicians or religious or atheist or gay or....etc. hypocrites?

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November 16th, 2017 at 8:27:23 AM permalink

Quote: Romes
Show hypocrisy... by CHANGING THE SUBJECT (to something not even equal btw).

You should seriously watch that. It literally explains exactly what sancho (and many other have been doing and are doing in this and the last thread).

Those damn "technicalities" such as facts and logic... Damn them.

John Oliver, something Stuart (Stewart?), and the weird English-sounding black guy (idk his name, maybe Trevor or Trayvon?) are mostly just stupid trolls and don't have anything logical to say. They tend to misrepresent stuff, blow it out of proportion, then "show" how idiotic it supposedly is. BTW: That's basically a strawman argument.

If someone is saying Charlie Sheen is a bad person because he does (or did?) a lot of cocaine and drank a lot.....then someone else says, "where don't you drink a lot and do drugs?", that's not changing the subject, it's showing hypocrisy. Although I can see how it can get confusing.

The fact is, if I say "Are you an idiot?" to someone, that is not me genuinely asking if that person is an idiot, that'd be me calling that person an idiot. It's sort of like a back-handed compliment (which is not a compliment), "Wow, you don't look super fat in that dress!"

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November 16th, 2017 at 8:27:48 AM permalink

Quote: TigerWu
What's funny is that a lot of liberal-types have been boycotting Keurig for years because of the perception they are horrible for the environment, so I guess it's good that conservatives are getting on the same page.

I'm still not convinced that the Keuring incident wasn't just one big publicity stunt, because it sure as heck felt like one.

Keurig IS terrible for the environment, and bloody expensive for what you get (which is actually a terrific piece of coffee). Now that many makers are getting on board with compostable cups, it is a far better proposition. I'm sipping on a cup right now.

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November 16th, 2017 at 8:32:31 AM permalink

Quote: RS
John Oliver, something Stuart (Stewart?), and the weird English-sounding black guy (idk his name, maybe Trevor or Trayvon?) are mostly just stupid trolls and don't have anything logical to say. They tend to misrepresent stuff, blow it out of proportion, then "show" how idiotic it supposedly is. BTW: That's basically a strawman argument....

You are blind. Check their politifact ratings. They're more accurate than ANY news channel from EITHER side. They literally do more research/etc than "real" new stations (again - from either side).

Sorry you hate them because the fact checked logic that spews out from the show (in a comedic light) offends your false ideals of the world? Jon Stewert retired from the daily show like 4 years ago bro... Trevor Noah leads it now.

Righties: What? Something doesn't agree with me and is fact checked, logical, and proves I'm just flat wrong? LA LA LA LA NOT LISTENING LA LA LA.

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November 16th, 2017 at 8:37:23 AM permalink

Quote: RS
John Oliver, something Stuart (Stewart?), and the weird English-sounding black guy (idk his name, maybe Trevor or Trayvon?) are mostly just stupid trolls and don't have anything logical to say. They tend to misrepresent stuff, blow it out of proportion, then "show" how idiotic it supposedly is. BTW: That's basically a strawman argument.

All three are comedians, not network news anchors on a "news network" and make their money being funny and exaggerating. Actually John Oliver's features are quite good and have evoked social change for the better. Unfortunately there are no comedians on the right who do the same thing, except for your nightly three hour weeknight roundup on Fox-TrumpNews.

Let's replace your sentence with my new trademarked program called Poliswitch. Take a sentence by a one political side without substance and replace with the opposite political side without substance. Let's test it.

[Poliswitch]Sean Hannity, something Tucker (Carllson?), and the mad entitled lady (ike her name, maybe Cooter or Coulter?) are mostly just stupid trolls and don't have anything logical to say. They tend to misrepresent stuff, blow it out of proportion, then "show" how idiotic it supposedly is. BTW: That's basically a strawman argument.[/Poliswitch]

It works!

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November 16th, 2017 at 9:05:45 AM permalink

Quote: boymimbo
All three are comedians, not network news anchors on a "news network" and make their money being funny and exaggerating. Actually John Oliver's features are quite good and have evoked social change for the better.

Check their politifact ratings. While they are using comedy, they ARE more factual, logical, and scientific on pretty much every single topic/etc.

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November 16th, 2017 at 9:16:05 AM permalink

Quote: Romes
First, Bill Clinton and Teddy Kennedy may have been sexual predictors (hitting on/sleeping with WOMEN), but not RAPISTS of 14 year old GIRLS.

You don't know that. One of the above purposely left a girl in a car to die. What is there that someone like that would not do?

And the other one raped Juanita Broaddrick when she was 35.

Just sayin.

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November 16th, 2017 at 9:36:40 AM permalink

I suppose you can concede there are similarities between Trump, Clinton, and Moore. And you can beat the hypocrisy drum if you want.

But pedophilia? Come on. Moore was on a "no fly" list at the mall. At the freekin mall.

Sick.

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November 16th, 2017 at 9:42:40 AM permalink

Quote: Steverinos
I suppose you can concede there are similarities between Trump, Clinton, and Moore. And you can beat the hypocrisy drum if you want.

But pedophilia? Come on. Moore was on a "no fly" list at the mall. At the freekin mall.

Sick.

I LOLed at "no fly list". Ok. Carry on.

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November 16th, 2017 at 9:56:41 AM permalink

Quote: bobbartop
You don't know that...

LOL... Well you don't know if Donald Trump has a rape room filled with 100 kids under the age of 10 that he sodomizes every single night... yet we do know Donald has been accused of sexual assault and plenty of women have come forth to say what his access hollywood tape revealed, that he's a sexual assaulter. SO LET'S NOW ASSUME WHAT I FIRST SAID IS TRUE??? That's your logic.

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November 16th, 2017 at 9:58:45 AM permalink

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...But pedophilia? Come on. Moore was on a "no fly" list at the mall. At the freekin mall...

Robin Sparkles was the one that ended up getting him banned I believe...

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November 16th, 2017 at 10:08:55 AM permalink

From a legal perspective pointing to fallibility of someone else is not a defense and generally will be very bad for you as a defendent. Most lawyers would tell their clients to shut up

Defending right wing rapists by saying look at how the dems do it too falls under this mislogical ideal

So if your neighbor rapes your daughter and you rape his daughter do not ask the police why its okay for him to do it and not you

Its not okay for either. So back to this while roy moore issue

Stick to a discussion of his indiscretions. Defending it by bringing up clinton here is not proper. Clinton should be held accountable if he did the accusations leveled against him but that is not a defensible position for the moore issue

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November 16th, 2017 at 10:22:47 AM permalink

But all the kool kids were doing it. I didn't want to, but peer pressure made me do it.

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November 16th, 2017 at 10:22:51 AM permalink

Quote: Romes
LOL... Well you don't know if Donald Trump has a rape room filled with 100 kids under the age of 10 that he sodomizes every single night... yet we do know Donald has been accused of sexual assault and plenty of women have come forth to say what his access hollywood tape revealed, that he's a sexual assaulter. SO LET'S NOW ASSUME WHAT I FIRST SAID IS TRUE??? That's your logic.

This thread is over 263 pages long. Was I supposed to remember that it's about Trump? I suppose I could have looked at the thread title.

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November 16th, 2017 at 10:30:12 AM permalink

Quote: bobbartop
This thread is over 263 pages long. Was I supposed to remember that it's about Trump? I suppose I could have looked at the thread title.

I dont know. Thats what i always do wen choosing a thread to read lol

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November 16th, 2017 at 10:33:33 AM permalink

We can bring it back to Trump. Here ya go:

His silence on this issue is deafening.

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November 16th, 2017 at 10:52:33 AM permalink

Trump is in a bad place. He can't defend Moore nor can he say Moore's actions are enough to DQ from the job.
What a shame.

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November 16th, 2017 at 11:11:14 AM permalink

Quote: billryan
Trump is in a bad place. He can't defend Moore nor can he say Moore's actions are enough to DQ from the job.
What a shame.

Which kind of brings us back to the moore discussion lol

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November 16th, 2017 at 11:23:11 AM permalink

Is it implicitly admitting defeat when you complain that the current subject of discussion does not match the topic of the thread?

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November 16th, 2017 at 12:07:55 PM permalink

Quote: Romes
You are blind. Check their politifact ratings. They're more accurate than ANY news channel from EITHER side. They literally do more research/etc than "real" new stations (again - from either side).

Sorry you hate them because the fact checked logic that spews out from the show (in a comedic light) offends your false ideals of the world? Jon Stewert retired from the daily show like 4 years ago bro... Trevor Noah leads it now.

Righties: What? Something doesn't agree with me and is fact checked, logical, and proves I'm just flat wrong? LA LA LA LA NOT LISTENING LA LA LA.

If that's true (the bolded), then that's highly disturbing, but then again, I wouldn't be surprised. I tried going to the politifact website, got pop ups galore. Closed them out and tried doing a search and more pop ups. Don't know if they're legit or not (at first glance, I'd say no), but I despise websites that are purely awful. Perhaps I'll try again when I get home.

I don't "hate them because their fact checked logic...". I just don't like them (the little that I've watched), because they'd just spin sh** in a blender for much of the program. Maybe they've gotten better over the past few years or I only saw their worst episodes.

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November 16th, 2017 at 12:14:17 PM permalink

Quote: boymimbo
All three are comedians, not network news anchors on a "news network" and make their money being funny and exaggerating. Actually John Oliver's features are quite good and have evoked social change for the better. Unfortunately there are no comedians on the right who do the same thing, except for your nightly three hour weeknight roundup on Fox-TrumpNews.

Let's replace your sentence with my new trademarked program called Poliswitch. Take a sentence by a one political side without substance and replace with the opposite political side without substance. Let's test it.

[Poliswitch]Sean Hannity, something Tucker (Carllson?), and the mad entitled lady (ike her name, maybe Cooter or Coulter?) are mostly just stupid trolls and don't have anything logical to say. They tend to misrepresent stuff, blow it out of proportion, then "show" how idiotic it supposedly is. BTW: That's basically a strawman argument.[/Poliswitch]

It works!

Yes, I'm aware they're comedians and aren't news networks. Doesn't mean I have to like them because some people think they're funny. I rarely watch "the news" (unless I'm forced to watch "fair MSNBC" 😹😹😹).

[sarcasm]Wait hold on are you changing the subject?!!!!????? OMG, he's changing the subject everyone, look, look!! He's changing the subject! You can't do that!!! Omg, what shall I do?????[/sarcasm]

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November 16th, 2017 at 12:14:52 PM permalink

Quote: billryan
Trump is in a bad place. He can't defend Moore nor can he say Moore's actions are enough to DQ from the job.
What a shame.

Of course he can't criticize Moore.

Imagine if Donald said "I believe the women accusing Moore."

The logical follow up question is: "Why are we to believe those women but not the women accusing you of sexual assault?"

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November 16th, 2017 at 12:30:38 PM permalink

Quote: RS
If that's true (the bolded), then that's highly disturbing, but then again, I wouldn't be surprised. I tried going to the politifact website, got pop ups galore. Closed them out and tried doing a search and more pop ups. Don't know if they're legit or not (at first glance, I'd say no), but I despise websites that are purely awful. Perhaps I'll try again when I get home.

I don't "hate them because their fact checked logic...". I just don't like them (the little that I've watched), because they'd just spin sh** in a blender for much of the program. Maybe they've gotten better over the past few years or I only saw their worst episodes.

Perhaps I spelled it a letter off and you hit a troll site, but they're definitely a very reputable source (they're usually the ones everyone turns to during debates for fact checking - on both sides). The Daily Show can be hit and miss, sometimes, but John Olivers "Last Week Tonight" is always very well reported/documented with of course the comedy spin... but they get serious and talk about real issues, again with facts, logic, and proof of what they're saying. They do call out and make fun of dems, quite often, but just so happens we're in a republican headline era (re:trump era) currently. Start with the 20 minute clip I just posted. Even though they're an HBO show, they put their 20+ minute "deep dives" on youtube every week, for free.

I didn't get any popups... perhaps you downloaded too much pr0n. Here's John Oliver's politifact review (zero lies): http://www.politifact.com/personalities/john-oliver/

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November 16th, 2017 at 1:09:57 PM permalink

Politifact is a fantastic website and is not riddled with pop ups.

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November 16th, 2017 at 1:12:16 PM permalink

Quote: Steverinos
Politifact is a fantastic website and is not riddled with pop ups.

It could just be that RS was gaslighting as usual...

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November 16th, 2017 at 1:17:41 PM permalink

I don't get popups on politifact.com

FactCheck.org and the Washington Post's fact checker are two other sites.

They tend not to appeal to people who are only willing to read things that confirm what they already believe or want to believe.

here is the 3rd edition of a media review that weighs bias, opinion, and factual accuracy of the sites:

http://www.allgeneralizationsarefalse.com/the-chart-version-3-0-what-exactly-are-we-reading/

The sources far to the left and to the right, and to the bottom, tend to publish things that their target audience wants to see.

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November 16th, 2017 at 2:14:02 PM permalink

I click on the search bar and I get a new tab opened to this:

Then I close it, go back to politifact, and it brings me to a new page:

That's on my phone.

But on my computer, I'm not seeing any wonky stuff.

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November 16th, 2017 at 2:24:24 PM permalink

Ah, so your phone has viruses. Glad we solved which one =). Also those don't show you coming from the politifact site. Not saying you would lie... but you might lie. ;-)

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November 16th, 2017 at 3:02:56 PM permalink

Quote: Romes
Perhaps I spelled it a letter off and you hit a troll site, but they're definitely a very reputable source (they're usually the ones everyone turns to during debates for fact checking - on both sides). The Daily Show can be hit and miss, sometimes, but John Olivers "Last Week Tonight" is always very well reported/documented with of course the comedy spin... but they get serious and talk about real issues, again with facts, logic, and proof of what they're saying. They do call out and make fun of dems, quite often, but just so happens we're in a republican headline era (re:trump era) currently. Start with the 20 minute clip I just posted. Even though they're an HBO show, they put their 20+ minute "deep dives" on youtube every week, for free.

I didn't get any popups... perhaps you downloaded too much pr0n. Here's John Oliver's politifact review (zero lies): http://www.politifact.com/personalities/john-oliver/

Wow, just look at those truths he's been telling....those sure are interesting/controversial!

Truths:
1. Baby formula // expiration dates. Meh.
2. Keene NH // pumpkin terrorist stuff -- I'll give ya that.
3. FIFA, Brazil, Beer -- wtf?
4. Brazil's $300M field to be used 4 times -- Waow!

Mostly-Truths:
1. Strom Thurmond / Puerto Rico / bankrupty -- I'll give ya that.
2. Sauk City Wisconsin ID / DMV stuff -- I'll give ya that.
3. SWAT raids up 1400% -- Sorta interesting, I guess?
4. Texas Jewish Joe Strauss -- huh?

Half-Truths:
1. Florida model for pre-trial services -- Interesting.
2. 28% of Kentuckian's don't have internet access -- Mixture IMO

Can I make my own show, say stupid stuff like, "People drink water, grass is green, 2+2=4, sometimes dogs bark..." and become the superhero of politifact because all I say is the truth? Don't inflate someone's "truths" by putting in random stuff.

First one I clicked on for Trump: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/nov/07/donald-trump/trump-wrongly-repeats-chicago-has-strongest-gun-la/

TL;DR: Trump says Chicago has toughest gun laws in country, politifact says that's "pants on fire" (ie: a 10000% lie). Their proof is that 7 states (SEVEN!!!) have stricter gun laws / regulations and that Illinoisians(?) can get CCW's for hand guns. I'd say it's somewhere between half true and mostly true.

Quote: Romes
Ah, so your phone has viruses. Glad we solved which one =). Also those don't show you coming from the politifact site. Not saying you would lie... but you might lie. ;-)

My phone don't got no damn viruses. It's only them stinky liberal fake news websites that cause pop ups probably. My phone doesn't like them websites (which is fair, it shouldn't). Get off my lawn you darn millennials!

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November 16th, 2017 at 3:07:24 PM permalink

If I said I was the toughest guy in the country, but it turned out 15% of country is tougher ,what would you say ? What part of it is remotely truthful?
How about if I directed you to the best game in the casino only for you to find it's not even close?

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November 16th, 2017 at 3:18:47 PM permalink

Quote: billryan
If I said I was the toughest guy in the country, but it turned out 15% of country is tougher ,what would you say ? What part of it is remotely truthful?
How about if I directed you to the best game in the casino only for you to find it's not even close?

The part where you're tougher than the other 85%

If someone said he sold a company for $1,000,000 yet you later figured out he sold it for $900,000, would you say, "NOPE! Wrong, that's 100000% a lie!!!!" or would you think, "Eh, he exaggerated a bit, but it's in the ballpark. A mostly-true, in my book."

Damn, I'd sure hate to be one of those people who're always like, "Well, technically......"

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November 16th, 2017 at 3:27:39 PM permalink

Quote: RS
The part where you're tougher than the other 85%

If someone said he sold a company for $1,000,000 yet you later figured out he sold it for $900,000, would you say, "NOPE! Wrong, that's 100000% a lie!!!!" or would you think, "Eh, he exaggerated a bit, but it's in the ballpark. A mostly-true, in my book."

Damn, I'd sure hate to be one of those people who're always like, "Well, technically......"

Yea i think that would qualify as lying. At best mixing truth with lies. Certainly not mostly truth

Misrepresent how much you sell or buy a company for on your tax return and that mostly truthful spin ("your words") will get you in a heap of trouble

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November 16th, 2017 at 3:38:24 PM permalink

Compare his to the President of the United States:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

On average, Trump says something that isn't true or misleading 5.5 times a day throughout the first ten months of his presidency. It's disgraceful.

Will his 36% ever hold him accountable for this? Doubt it.

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November 16th, 2017 at 11:32:11 PM permalink

Quote: RS
TL;DR: Trump says Chicago has toughest gun laws in country, politifact says that's "pants on fire" (ie: a 10000% lie). Their proof is that 7 states (SEVEN!!!) have stricter gun laws / regulations and that Illinoisians(?) can get CCW's for hand guns. I'd say it's somewhere between half true and mostly true.

I'd say it's wrong enough to lose a bet on it, if you were a betting man. That's good enough for me.

Like you, I would fight over a million vs. 900,000 thousand, but only if I believed it was intended as a general estimate of fact.

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November 17th, 2017 at 9:33:03 AM permalink

Facts are facts. Truth is truth. There is no grey area, contrary to what the president and other politicians would like us to believe. If other states have stricter gun laws than Illinois, than it is not a fact that Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the country. Period.

This is a rather new phenomenon where everything is "fake news" and crap is spread through our facebook feeds. Most people are still trying to figure it all out. We can't wait to "forward it like its hot" and unless you really spend some time working at it, you'll be severely misinformed. And bad information is waaaaaaaaaay worse than no information.

boymimbo

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November 17th, 2017 at 10:17:44 AM permalink

Correct.

You need to look at sources and consider biases in all reporting and discard reporting that is unabashedly biased (this is easy to tell when they add opinion into their story). You also need to look at this source's history and the sources that make the story.

Like it or not, WaPo and the NYT have rarely had to issue apologies for publishing things that weren't true. You really cannot say the same about Breitbart or WND. Or Facebook or Twitter.

----- You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!

MrV

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November 18th, 2017 at 10:48:54 AM permalink

I'm not a Trump supporter, but then again the idiots with antifa who were filmed breaking windows and knocking over trash cans in Portland deserve to sit next to Trump in hell.

"What, me worry?"

rsactuary

rsactuary

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November 25th, 2017 at 11:51:54 PM permalink

Word is that Michael Flynn's lawyers are no longer sharing information with Trump lawyers.. which is speculated to mean that he is cooperating with Mueller. Things are getting interesting!

Strange.. I haven't heard "nothing burger" in, like, forever.

darkoz