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May 16th, 2017 at 7:03:24 PM permalink
This promotion is all over Vegas, not sure if its elsewhere.
Big tent in the parking lot of a mall and extensive radio advertising.
I bit a few weeks ago and went to see what their gimmick is. As expected, its a come on to buy a much bigger package. You can get the ribeyes for $25 or buy a larger package deal for $150 and get the ribeyes free. I whipped out my handy phone calculator and figured a similar package from Omaha Steaks would cost me much more so I bought the $150 deal.
The ribeyes are very small, when cooked they resemble a bunch of steakums. 20 for $25 is not bargain.
In the deal, I got 12 hamburgers- really juicy but full of fat. What a mess they leave in the pan.
Two outstanding Porterhouse steaks, six mensa mensa Delmonico steaks, four 12 ounce Tbones and six NY Strip steaks. All are pretty good.
My package also included what they called strip loin steaks and boneless fillets, but I'd call them chuck steaks. Tough, grisly and not very flavorful.
All in all, it was okay, I might buy the package for a Memorial Day BBQ if lots of alcohol was involved, but for eating at home I will pass and recommend you do as well.
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May 16th, 2017 at 7:05:41 PM permalink
Sounds like the guys who used to drive around the neighborhood in their trucks with a freezer on the back selling "extra" meat. Usually was poor quality.

Thanks for the review!
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May 16th, 2017 at 7:09:03 PM permalink
It's legit, in that they are set up for weeks on end, but the meat doesn't stand up to Omaha Steaks or a decent butcher.
Companies name is Colorado Choice, based out of Florida.
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May 16th, 2017 at 7:13:27 PM permalink
I've always wanted to buy half a cow, a side of beef more correctly, from local farmers but never got around to buying a chest freezer. That would be kind of weird eating the same animal for so long, but not that weird. It's more than $150, but you get more.
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May 16th, 2017 at 8:32:07 PM permalink
I bought a freezer chest to take advantage of bulk buys at BJs and my sister bought a half a side of beef one time. It was over $200 and didn't seem like that great a deal. Her husband got a large chunk of venison from a friend and that worked out better.
On the down side, my Cousin Tommy lived in the middle of nowhere and had a walk in freezer. Super Storm Sandy came along and he lost thousands of dollars worth of food.
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May 16th, 2017 at 11:10:37 PM permalink
As PT Barnum would say, "There's a sucker born every minute."

The biggest problem is that meat is all CAFO.

Try John Mull's or The Butcher Block next time. Get some good grass fed steaks and never look back.
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May 16th, 2017 at 11:38:19 PM permalink
Walmart has a 100% money back satisfaction guarantee at their meat department. I have bought many Ribeyes, T-bones and NY steaks from them. I haven't tried their filet mignon because it's wrapped in bacon(Filet is rich enough on its own and doesn't need bacon mucking up the taste) and I think it's from a 3rd party.

I haven't had a bad one bad steak there yet, just the opposite, they have all been very tasty. Personally, other than Filet Mignon, I would rather season and cook my own steak.
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May 17th, 2017 at 5:40:06 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

It's legit, in that they are set up for weeks on end, but the meat doesn't stand up to Omaha Steaks or a decent butcher.
Companies name is Colorado Choice, based out of Florida.



A friend bought those and I tried it and thought the quality was horrid. I would consider buying them as treats for my dog.
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May 17th, 2017 at 5:51:34 AM permalink
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Companies name is Colorado Choice, based out of Florida.



The jokes just write themselves with that name alone.
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May 17th, 2017 at 5:54:57 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Walmart has a 100% money back satisfaction guarantee at their meat department. I have bought many Ribeyes, T-bones and NY steaks from them. I haven't tried their filet mignon because it's wrapped in bacon(Filet is rich enough on its own and doesn't need bacon mucking up the taste) and I think it's from a 3rd party.

I haven't had a bad one bad steak there yet, just the opposite, they have all been very tasty. Personally, other than Filet Mignon, I would rather season and cook my own steak.



Seems like many stores are going with the vacuum packed filets because they hold longer. Their cost has stores worried about waste with standard packaging which is why you see so many of the Bacon wrapped ones. They are packaged and shipped nationally inside of being cut in house.
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May 17th, 2017 at 6:15:58 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Walmart has a 100% money back satisfaction guarantee at their meat department. I have bought many Ribeyes, T-bones and NY steaks from them. I haven't tried their filet mignon because it's wrapped in bacon(Filet is rich enough on its own and doesn't need bacon mucking up the taste) and I think it's from a 3rd party.

I haven't had a bad one bad steak there yet, just the opposite, they have all been very tasty. Personally, other than Filet Mignon, I would rather season and cook my own steak.


So how many free steaks have you gotten from WalMart? Or did they cut you off pretty quickly since you were AP'ing their meat department. "I'm going to beat your meat (department}."
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May 17th, 2017 at 6:56:18 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Walmart has a 100% money back satisfaction guarantee at their meat department. I have bought many Ribeyes, T-bones and NY steaks from them. I haven't tried their filet mignon because it's wrapped in bacon(Filet is rich enough on its own and doesn't need bacon mucking up the taste) and I think it's from a 3rd party.

I haven't had a bad one bad steak there yet, just the opposite, they have all been very tasty. Personally, other than Filet Mignon, I would rather season and cook my own steak.



Walmart's got their thumb on the scale though. Their meat has that "May contain up to 10% (salt) water" labeling.
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May 17th, 2017 at 11:29:46 AM permalink
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So how many free steaks have you gotten from WalMart? Or did they cut you off pretty quickly since you were AP'ing their meat department. "I'm going to beat your meat (department}."

You got to be crafty.


But just in case, always have Bob Rotisserian on speed dial when entering the meat department.
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May 17th, 2017 at 12:38:32 PM permalink
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Walmart's got their thumb on the scale though. Their meat has that "May contain up to 10% (salt) water" labeling.



They usually have their own in house cuts and, in my experience, they also offer USDA choice (or prime, I can't recall which) at a significantly reduced price from other places. I used to live walking distance from a giant 24 hour Walmart in Florida and would always get my steaks from there. The one obligation you have is to look closely to make sure its the right color. There was definitely many times someone took one, walked around the store for an hour and left it in the sporting goods dept, only to be put back in the fridge by those trusty Walmart employees. Early on, before I really checked them before buying, lets just say things weren't always so pretty for me afterwards.... But after learning the hard way, I have zero complaints....
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May 17th, 2017 at 1:30:34 PM permalink
Cheap cut of meat? You got a hammer? You got a fork? You got a good strong rubber band? You attach the fork to the hammer and pound away on the meat for a few whacks. Instantly tenderized.

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May 17th, 2017 at 6:19:03 PM permalink
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You got to be crafty.



But just in case, always have Bob Rotisserian on speed dial when entering the meat department.



Grocery shopping with Axel.......lmao
I can see it going down just like that.
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May 17th, 2017 at 6:40:19 PM permalink
I heard this radio ad when I was in Vegas.

Why the heck would anyone buy meat in a parking lot? Lol.
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May 17th, 2017 at 7:07:56 PM permalink
It's a huge tent with a refrigerator truck. Have you figured out why people buy stuff on the internet yet?
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May 17th, 2017 at 9:19:22 PM permalink
I was denied a replacement and money back at Giant Eagle years ago. They claim a double guarantee, but if you ask for it, don't get it, and if you don't ask for it, you don't get it. In my case, they were frozen wings, which are terrible any place you get them, cannot compare with fresh, very tough. The manager wanted me to drag the wings in, they might be crap, but I'm going to eat them or throw them away. Looking back, I should buy some, let them sit in the sun a few days, then open them on top of the counter, just for payback for the guy that worked there ten years ago. That would stink like a rotten grave.

Bought some chicken at WalMart that smelled like rotten eggs and farts the other week. Sometimes pork smells like this and it's ok, but it was probably contaminated with salmonella. Money back no problem. I sent someone there for me to take them back because I didn't like the hmm-hmm they gave me returning those frozen wings. They were wingettes turkey sized, too huge to fry up. Once I realized I couldn't deep fry, not too bad in the oven, but wasted a bunch before I realized it. On that guarantee, they say just to bring the bag on the bag, had to point it out to them. The hmmm hmmm was rude though, should have complained about that lady. I could see it as accidental, so didn't bother wasting time.
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May 19th, 2017 at 7:47:01 AM permalink
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I haven't had a bad one bad steak there yet, just the opposite, they have all been very tasty. Personally, other than Filet Mignon, I would rather season and cook my own steak.



I agree with seasoning and cooking my own.

Having worked at the WalMart DC at one time, I would say that I would probably buy the meat from WalMart if I made a habit of shopping there. I don't, though, we have Kroger around here and one other really good more local mini-chain, so I stick to those.

If I had to say anything, I would just say to stay away from the produce at WalMart unless you seriously inspect it. The same stuff I saw probably goes on anywhere, granted, but at least I can pretend by shopping elsewhere.

EDIT: No, screw inspecting it, just stay away from it. I'll just say that I have some idea as to how produce manages to get infected with salmonella.
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May 20th, 2017 at 7:33:36 AM permalink
just out of curiosity, what kind of sauce, if any, do you guys use when you're eating your steaks?
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May 20th, 2017 at 7:52:58 AM permalink
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just out of curiosity, what kind of sauce, if any, do you guys use when you're eating your steaks?


Ketchup.

Joking! If it's a good steak and still pink, usually nothing. If it's over medium or a lower quality cut I like cheap off brand steak sauce over A1 for some reason. Heinz 57 sauce is good too, very different, and very love it or hate it.
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May 20th, 2017 at 8:07:27 AM permalink
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Ketchup.

Joking! If it's a good steak and still pink, usually nothing. If it's over medium or a lower quality cut I like cheap off brand steak sauce over A1 for some reason. Heinz 57 sauce is good too, very different, and very love it or hate it.



It's always fun to order a few ounces of Kobe steak at a high end place and ask for some Heinz 57. I just love the look of disdain people give me.
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May 20th, 2017 at 9:34:10 AM permalink
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just out of curiosity, what kind of sauce, if any, do you guys use when you're eating your steaks?



I grill my steaks a with a glaze made of teriyaki sauce,maple syrup and melted butter. No additional sauce after cooking.
When eating out, I'll use Peter Luger sauce if available, or Heinz steak sauce.
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May 20th, 2017 at 9:51:41 AM permalink
Ketchup?
Steak Sauce?

First of all, ketchup is a word derived from Arabic. Originally ketchup had absolutely no sugar in it at all. A good ketchup should have no sugar even to this day.

Steak sauces that have sugar are worthless. Its best to taste the steak, not the sauce.

Every salesman is told 'sell the Sizzle not the Steak'. So the disdain of a waitress is good entertainment because all she deals with is the sizzle.
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May 20th, 2017 at 11:08:30 AM permalink
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just out of curiosity, what kind of sauce, if any, do you guys use when you're eating your steaks?



Just season it before cooking, no sauce for me.
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May 20th, 2017 at 11:11:06 AM permalink
Cumin... been used for over a thousand years.
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May 21st, 2017 at 3:49:00 AM permalink
I will never get why people add A1 to their steak, it only masks the taste IMO. Ketchup on steak? To each their own.



I didn't even care for steak until my late 20's. That's probably because we really could not afford it, and I was not really exposed to it. I only started eating it because all the people I played with in vegas loved going to nice steakhouses with their comps( we had comps coming out the yin-yang back then). I don't like fish or seafood, except for shrimp and prawns, lobster is disgusting to me. So I started ordering steak diane or I would put the steak on my salad with ranch dressing. I didn't like it without some kind of sauce. Now I love steak and eat it all the time, anything but prime rib. Nowadays no sauce for me, just a small amount of seasoning, a little garlic salt works just fine.
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May 21st, 2017 at 5:39:43 AM permalink
for many years i had to stay away from steak, it was hard for me to digest. just recently i tried cutting a very good steak into strips like they do with a philly steak and cheese and then cooking and it worked. if you put it in the freezer for a few minutes it firms up so it's easier to cut. i fried it in extra virgin olive oil and margarine and cooked it on a very low heat setting slowly and covered. it came out very tender and easy for me to get down. i was generous with the oil and margarine and it made a tasty sauce when i poured it over the strips. i like the idea of adding a tiny bit of teriyaki sauce in the pan and also some of the juice from cooked mushrooms. that i will try next time. i recently saw a documentary about olive oil and i learned that it's a really, really big deal in italy. which is the highest quality, has the best taste,, etc. like wine is here and elsewhere. my wife cooks beef ribs which are very high quality meat in a slow cooker for 4 hours with potatoes and some water and of course her seasonings and when they come out they're so tender you can cut them with a spoon. i'm not exaggerating. you can literally cut them with a spoon.
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May 21st, 2017 at 8:47:41 AM permalink
Marinate the toughest cut of beef overnight in diet coke and it comes out like filet mignon.
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May 21st, 2017 at 8:58:53 AM permalink
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Marinate the toughest cut of beef overnight in diet coke and it comes out like filet mignon.



Seriously??? I've never heard of such a thing! Off to Youtube!
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May 22nd, 2017 at 2:57:54 AM permalink
this is google's ranking of the top 8 steak cuts. i think google synthesizes their ranking from several different sources. i was surprised because i would have considered rib-eye above everything except porterhouse which i don't know much about. my grocery store doesn't sell porterhouse but i'm pretty sure that rib-eye is the most expensive per pound of all the others. i also don't really know what tri-tip steak is. flank steak looks to me to be way overrated. i always thought of it as being tough.



Porterhouse. This particular steak is considered the "king" of steaks mainly because it's actually two steaks in one. ...
T-bone. This steak is named after its T-shaped bone. ...
Top Sirloin. This is a relatively lean cut of steak. ...
Tri-Tip. ...
Flank. ...
New York Strip. ...
Filet Mignon. ...
Rib-Eye.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 3:43:23 AM permalink
Tri tip seems to be a California thing, spreading to Nevada.
I love flat iron steak but it's not always available. Porterhouse is the bomb.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 4:20:07 AM permalink
Haha I actually used to put ketchup on steak. I have always been confused about dI ping sauces because a few nice steak house that I have been too give or sell special dipping sauces.

I have gotten pretty good at cooking steak. I use a charcoal grill. I season with salt, pepper, garlic powder, and onion powder. Right before I take it off the grill I throw some garlic butter butter on top of the steak and let it melt off. Cooked to a medium. Yummy
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May 22nd, 2017 at 7:35:53 AM permalink
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Tri tip seems to be a California thing, spreading to Nevada.
I love flat iron steak but it's not always available. Porterhouse is the bomb.



Smith's almost always has flat irons and they grill up perfect for an inexpensive cut of meat. I usually get them at the corner of Green Valley Parkway and Pebble.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 7:41:12 AM permalink
Chuck Eye steak is among the cheapest cuts, and can be great if done correctly. Very very similar to rib eye.
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I found this gem today....





I bought 2. The girl checking me out had the biggest look of discust on her face. ITS ON YOUR WINDOW STOP JUDGING ME.

I'll cook them up tomorrow and report back if I can make it from my kitchen back to my PC.
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June 1st, 2017 at 8:41:40 PM permalink
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Marinate the toughest cut of beef overnight in diet coke and it comes out like filet mignon.

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Seriously??? I've never heard of such a thing! Off to Youtube!

I've heard of it, but the version I heard of made the hunk 'o meat just disappear entirely, if you leave it in there. Along with paint, if you want to get that off of something. Slowly. I got that from Some Guy On The Internet, with this particular SGOTI's web location being long forgotten now, so...

And, never got around to experimenting with it. So post those Youtubes if you got them.
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June 1st, 2017 at 9:08:48 PM permalink
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I've heard of it, but the version I heard of made the hunk 'o meat just disappear entirely, if you leave it in there. Along with paint, if you want to get that off of something. Slowly. I got that from Some Guy On The Internet, with this particular SGOTI's web location being long forgotten now, so...

And, never got around to experimenting with it. So post those Youtubes if you got them.


Anything acidic will dissolve meat and bones eventually. You can dissolve a tooth in coke as well.
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June 1st, 2017 at 9:12:11 PM permalink
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I found this gem today....





I bought 2. The girl checking me out had the biggest look of discust on her face. ITS ON YOUR WINDOW STOP JUDGING ME.

I'll cook them up tomorrow and report back if I can make it from my kitchen back to my PC.




Those are exactly the 20 for $25 ones. Not horrible if panfried. I threw some grilled onions,mozzarella cheese and teriyaki sauce on a hero roll and it was okay.
My dog likes them.
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June 1st, 2017 at 9:18:18 PM permalink
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Quote: gamerfreak

I found this gem today....





I bought 2. The girl checking me out had the biggest look of discust on her face. ITS ON YOUR WINDOW STOP JUDGING ME.

I'll cook them up tomorrow and report back if I can make it from my kitchen back to my PC.




Those are exactly the 20 for $25 ones. Not horrible if panfried. I threw some grilled onions,mozzarella cheese and teriyaki sauce on a hero roll and it was okay.
My dog likes them.


Interesting. I thought it would maybe make a good sandwich meat. I also got a "bacon wrapped chop steak" for $1 which I'll post as well. Chopped sirloin is a legit diner food so maybe it's not bad either.
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June 1st, 2017 at 9:21:15 PM permalink
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I found this gem today....





I bought 2. The girl checking me out had the biggest look of discust on her face. ITS ON YOUR WINDOW STOP JUDGING ME.

I'll cook them up tomorrow and report back if I can make it from my kitchen back to my PC.



You know it's trouble when the dollar store clerk looks at you sideways. Why so much pineapple enzymes? Wonder why they have to send US beef to Mexico for further processing? New and improved, WTF does that mean? So many questions.🤔💩

These most likely come from old milk cows that have gone dry. Hence the need for so much tenderizing. With the 30% solution I can only imagine what the appearance of this product looks like sizzling in a pan. Anyone care to post up a video?

How many of these can TomG put down in an hour?
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June 1st, 2017 at 10:36:07 PM permalink
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Anything acidic will dissolve meat and bones eventually. You can dissolve a tooth in coke as well.

Makes sense to me. And I don't take that to mean it is bad. Unless I just left a puddle of it on the hood of my car for a long time. I think vinegar (acetic acid) is a common base for marinades, right? Maybe Coke has some citric acid content that works like that?

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June 2nd, 2017 at 6:41:49 AM permalink
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Now I know what to do with the dead hooker under the bed. If I should ever have the problem of a dead hooker under the bed.


I think Muratic Acid for pools is the most potent easily available to consumers. Just make sure you mentioned the dead hooker wherever you go, and the guy at the store should know right away what to show you.
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June 2nd, 2017 at 8:29:06 AM permalink
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I found this gem today....





I bought 2. The girl checking me out had the biggest look of discust on her face. ITS ON YOUR WINDOW STOP JUDGING ME.

I'll cook them up tomorrow and report back if I can make it from my kitchen back to my PC.



You know it's trouble when the dollar store clerk looks at you sideways. Why so much pineapple enzymes? Wonder why they have to send US beef to Mexico for further processing? New and improved, WTF does that mean? So many questions.🤔💩

These most likely come from old milk cows that have gone dry. Hence the need for so much tenderizing. With the 30% solution I can only imagine what the appearance of this product looks like sizzling in a pan. Anyone care to post up a video?

How many of these can TomG put down in an hour?



They cook like a cross between steakums and gyro meat, if you can visualize that.
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AxelWolf
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June 2nd, 2017 at 9:25:01 AM permalink
This looks and sounds disgusting, I can just imagine the taste of freezer burnt meat. No one will convince me it tasted good, I will just assume your taste buds are dull.

IIRC Doesn't the Harley Davidson restaurant feature a coke-a-cola marinated steak or something like that?
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June 2nd, 2017 at 12:12:32 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

This looks and sounds disgusting, I can just imagine the taste of freezer burnt meat. No one will convince me it tasted good, I will just assume your taste buds are dull.

IIRC Doesn't the Harley Davidson restaurant feature a coke-a-cola marinated steak or something like that?



They closed 8 months ago. Yet if there is one lying around in their old storefront somewhere it would probably taste better than the $1 Steak.
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June 2nd, 2017 at 10:56:52 PM permalink
There's a place in Henderson called Lindo Michoacan. Some of the best Mexican food in the valley. They have a bone in ribeye with the owners mothers secret sauce that contains Coca Cola. I'm not a fan of that dish, although I tried it. I go for the Puntas de Filete Albanil. Place has some really good views of the strip if you sit in the glass room behind the bar. I think every Mexican in the valley has their birthday there. Good food and great value. The hot sauce is hot.
AxelWolf
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June 2nd, 2017 at 11:49:18 PM permalink
I don't think I'm going to eat at Ricardo's on Flamingo and Decatur anymore. Last few times the food has been super salty. Even the beans were. Meanwhile, someone we know is putting salt on their chips. What's with everyone over salting stuff?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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