When you think you've seen it all

.......something else happens.

Playing BJ in a party pit at a local joint. Table is a 10-1000 table. No purple in the tray. Guy comes to the table and buys for 4K. Has at least 20K behind. Takes a seat and throws down 800. Starts winning. Not long and he's up 3K.

Starts getting into it. Then he throws out 200 for the dealer and 100 to myself and the other 2 guys at the table. Casino fills 20 purple. While filling guy in seat 4 is dubbed the super hero, guy to his left is named the innocent bystander, dealer is the hot chick, I am bequeathed the title of villain.

Play commences. Guy starts flat betting table max. He catches his fair share of good hands. Dealer is running bad. He's tossing chips to everyone based on his interpretation of events related to a comic book. He's tipping the dealer a 100 every other hand. She's about ready to orgasm as they keep their own. Casino brings another 20 purple.

Play commences and guy hits some nice doubles and a couple of naturals. Pit is all over the action. Fist bumping by the dealer becomes not allowed. Casino bringing out a 30K fill. Guy dubs the pit boss super villain for not allowing fist bumping by the dealer.

Play commences big player starts to turn down after reaching about 15k and giving dealer at least 1500 and I had 400 from him. He churns around over the course of the next half hour and busts out. He would have been even if not for dealer tips and giving us at the table money for stupid stuff related to his storyline. Thought to myself, well it was good while it lasted.

Out comes 10K and guy rebuys. Goes to 2 hands and winds up on another tear. Splits, doubles, naturals you name it and he's getting it. Guy is throwing chips all over the place. If the pit boss gets to close he blows smoke in the "super villain's" direction. He's mad that he can't fist bump. Casino starts sweating the action. There are now 2 additional pit critters.

Original dealer returns from a break and you could see the envy from the relief dealer even though she got at least 300 in her box. Guy was giving more to the table and betting on top of our spots, with our permission of course, during his epic run. I forgot about the game and just tried to keep the guy entertained flat betting 50 because sometime he would double it if the villain was in play. I'm up over 1500 at this point. I had 350 or so in front of me when he initially arrived.

Casino bring out another fill 20K and shuts table to others and says we can play as long as we want but will close after we all leave. Guy has close to 25K at this point after giving away at least 5K in tips and rewards. This will be the highest chip count guy will see all night.

The shenanigans continued for 2 more hours. At times the donating money and tips would slow but remained pretty steady all the way to the very bitter end. Dude left busted without rebuying and a big old smile on his face down 14K. I finished up 2800. Main dealer had to get another toke box, as this places were pretty small.

Damn, that sounds like one hell of a night. Living in Vegas and frequenting casinos, you'll see some interesting stuff.....but it seems like you always run into the super crazy sh*t.

Too bad the guy didnt take his winnings and leave ,when the pit boss told him no more fist bumping.

Some guy kept trying to give me chips once at Delaware Park and the dealer wouldn't allow it. They're the most strict casino I've ever played at.

Wow, what a crazy night/story; thanks for sharing. Sounds like you had a pretty great time, both fun and results wise! Not too bad... for the villain ;-)

Just saw a 10 minute clip of "Owning Mahowny" yesterday. Sound about right? I need to rent that movie to watch the whole thing.

Good for you, getting some extra payout, though. One of these days, I am going to be rewarded like that (he says, wishfully.)

A contrarians viewpoint:

He did not do ANYTHING wrong. He played the way he was happy to play. He is no different than a Ploppie, or a very skilled Card Counter. He has his preferences and his personal values and he is just as rightful in his behaviour as if he stands on a pair of 8s, or bets the hardways or bets his Pai when he should bet his Gow.

The Wizard bets Don't Pass each and every time because he carries math out to four places and likes the result. Is this any more 'right' than some other strategy.

It was the 'villain's' money. Let him have fun as he sees fit.

The guy absolutely didn't do anything wrong. He had an awesome time. The whole table did. I believe even the pit boss that was getting smoked out enjoyed it.

Quote: gamerfreak

Some guy kept trying to give me chips once at Delaware Park and the dealer wouldn't allow it. They're the most strict casino I've ever played at.

Yea and the best at slandering you to every other casino in the area. Word of advice, don't play rated there. When it comes to them, I live by the motto "I will have my revenge, in this life or the next."

Quote: Sandybestdog

Yea and the best at slandering you to every other casino in the area. Word of advice, don't play rated there. When it comes to them, I live by the motto "I will have my revenge, in this life or the next."

Revenge like how?

Love to read these gambling stories.

The guy obviously had pretty deep pockets, so a 14K loss means little or nothing to him.

Life is short: study, work, love, gamble, die.

Quote: Sandybestdog

Yea and the best at slandering you to every other casino in the area. Word of advice, don't play rated there. When it comes to them, I live by the motto "I will have my revenge, in this life or the next."

You planning something like a oceans 11,gather up the crew, count me in. :)

Quote: MaxPen

.......something else happens.

Playing BJ in a party pit at a local joint. Table is a 10-1000 table. No purple in the tray. Guy comes to the table and buys for 4K. Has at least 20K behind. Takes a seat and throws down 800. Starts winning. Not long and he's up 3K.

Starts getting into it. Then he throws out 200 for the dealer and 100 to myself and the other 2 guys at the table. Casino fills 20 purple. While filling guy in seat 4 is dubbed the super hero, guy to his left is named the innocent bystander, dealer is the hot chick, I am bequeathed the title of villain.

Play commences. Guy starts flat betting table max. He catches his fair share of good hands. Dealer is running bad. He's tossing chips to everyone based on his interpretation of events related to a comic book. He's tipping the dealer a 100 every other hand. She's about ready to orgasm as they keep their own. Casino brings another 20 purple.

Play commences and guy hits some nice doubles and a couple of naturals. Pit is all over the action. Fist bumping by the dealer becomes not allowed. Casino bringing out a 30K fill. Guy dubs the pit boss super villain for not allowing fist bumping by the dealer.

Play commences big player starts to turn down after reaching about 15k and giving dealer at least 1500 and I had 400 from him. He churns around over the course of the next half hour and busts out. He would have been even if not for dealer tips and giving us at the table money for stupid stuff related to his storyline. Thought to myself, well it was good while it lasted.

Out comes 10K and guy rebuys. Goes to 2 hands and winds up on another tear. Splits, doubles, naturals you name it and he's getting it. Guy is throwing chips all over the place. If the pit boss gets to close he blows smoke in the "super villain's" direction. He's mad that he can't fist bump. Casino starts sweating the action. There are now 2 additional pit critters.

Original dealer returns from a break and you could see the envy from the relief dealer even though she got at least 300 in her box. Guy was giving more to the table and betting on top of our spots, with our permission of course, during his epic run. I forgot about the game and just tried to keep the guy entertained flat betting 50 because sometime he would double it if the villain was in play. I'm up over 1500 at this point. I had 350 or so in front of me when he initially arrived.

Casino bring out another fill 20K and shuts table to others and says we can play as long as we want but will close after we all leave. Guy has close to 25K at this point after giving away at least 5K in tips and rewards. This will be the highest chip count guy will see all night.

The shenanigans continued for 2 more hours. At times the donating money and tips would slow but remained pretty steady all the way to the very bitter end. Dude left busted without rebuying and a big old smile on his face down 14K. I finished up 2800. Main dealer had to get another toke box, as this places were pretty small.

was it this guy?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=52109282&postcount=8

"I was getting very drunk and my dumbass went over to high limit black jack.
<snip>
All night I had just been sloppy drunk giving away hundred dollar tips left and right. I may have tipped close to $1500 that night."

Quote: 100xOdds

was it this guy?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=52109282&postcount=8

"I was getting very drunk and my dumbass went over to high limit black jack.
<snip>
All night I had just been sloppy drunk giving away hundred dollar tips left and right. I may have tipped close to $1500 that night."

No.... This was an off strip property with a party pit. They didn't even have purple in the rack when the guy first sat down. Plus this guy appeared to have plenty. He wasn't drunk at all.

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Revenge like how?

Oh sooner or later I'll find a way to get some money out of them for what they did to me, legally of course. I have a long memory.

I was playing Ultimate Texas Hold’em in a Philly area casino a few months ago. As usual, as soon as I start playing, constant ridicule from the ploppies about not playing the trips bet. There were two people on the other side betting decent money. About 20 minutes later one of them hits a royal. Surprisingly a quick check by the pit and a 2 minute call to surveillance and he got his payout, about $10k or so. The guy is completely ecstatic. I guess he probably threw the dealer a couple hundred and then gave everyone at the table a black chip. Obviously I appreciate the gesture. I’m really the type that doesn’t want anything for free and would much prefer to earn it. Normally I would refuse but thought that would seem rude so at everyone’s suggestion I started using that money to play the trips. I hit a few hands and threw back a green chip when the lady had me convinced that the side bet is where the money is.

Anyways the whole time I’m thinking that the payout was very quick and was wondering why they didn’t take taxes out. Of course I didn’t say anything. The guy leaves to cash out for a little bit and comes back to play some more. He whips out his wad of $100’s and starts laying it on the table and says yea they want me to pay the taxes. I guess he gave back about $3000. Wow if they did that to me, I would have gotten those chips and ran out of there.

Quote: Sandybestdog

I was playing Ultimate Texas Hold’em in a Philly area casino a few months ago. As usual, as soon as I start playing, constant ridicule from the ploppies about not playing the trips bet. There were two people on the other side betting decent money. About 20 minutes later one of them hits a royal. Surprisingly a quick check by the pit and a 2 minute call to surveillance and he got his payout, about $10k or so. The guy is completely ecstatic. I guess he probably threw the dealer a couple hundred and then gave everyone at the table a black chip. Obviously I appreciate the gesture. I’m really the type that doesn’t want anything for free and would much prefer to earn it. Normally I would refuse but thought that would seem rude so at everyone’s suggestion I started using that money to play the trips. I hit a few hands and threw back a green chip when the lady had me convinced that the side bet is where the money is.

Anyways the whole time I’m thinking that the payout was very quick and was wondering why they didn’t take taxes out. Of course I didn’t say anything. The guy leaves to cash out for a little bit and comes back to play some more. He whips out his wad of $100’s and starts laying it on the table and says yea they want me to pay the taxes. I guess he gave back about $3000. Wow if they did that to me, I would have gotten those chips and ran out of there.

I don't get taxes taken out of my w2-g or 1099 wins.
I don't understand why his did???

Quote: 100xOdds

I don't get taxes taken out of my w2-g or 1099 wins.
I don't understand why his did???

Table bets with over 300-1 odds and $1200 get taxed automatically, similar to a VP win over $1200. Then again those figures are pending states, I think, so I'm not sure if they're considered universal. I believe you HAVE to get one of the two withheld automatically (state/federal). I think you can waive one, but you'll have to pay for it later when tax season comes.

You can ask for fed tax to be withheld if you'd like. Makes it easier when filing taxes, probably. Not that I recommend it. Also if you're from Canada or at least not from USA, the fed tax is mandatory. You can always file later to try to get it back.

Quote: Romes

Table bets with over 300-1 odds and $1200 get taxed automatically, similar to a VP win over $1200. Then again those figures are pending states, I think, so I'm not sure if they're considered universal. I believe you HAVE to get one of the two withheld automatically (state/federal). I think you can waive one, but you'll have to pay for it later when tax season comes.

I believe it's 300 to1 or more and $600 and has satisfy both requirements.

Quote: Romes

Then again those figures are pending states, I think, so I'm not sure if they're considered universal.

Based on my personal experience with W-2G's, in NV, they didn't take out any taxes, and didn't even ask. In IL, they asked if I wanted taxes taken out, but did not insist that I do. In MS, they took out, IIRC, 0.3% state taxes, and no fed tax. In LA, they took out 6%! However, I'm glad to report that I got about 75% of that money back by filing a state income tax return with LA.

Closer to the original topic, I sat down to play some 4CP at the IP in Biloxi a few years back. Another player comes up and asks if he can have my seat. No problem, I move to another seat, and he takes the one I was in. This guy was a big bettor, and on his first hand in what was my seat, he hit a big hand (I forget what it was, or how much, but he was betting >$100 on both the main bet and the Aces Up side bet).

After the dealer pays him off, he slides me a black chip as a "thank you" for giving him the seat!

Quote: Romes

Table bets with over 300-1 odds and $1200 get taxed automatically, similar to a VP win over $1200. Then again those figures are pending states, I think, so I'm not sure if they're considered universal. I believe you HAVE to get one of the two withheld automatically (state/federal). I think you can waive one, but you'll have to pay for it later when tax season comes.

yes I know taxed automatically.

but unless I ask for taxes to be withheld, it doesn't get withheld.
so why is he being made to pay taxes then and there???

or is that his particular state? (taxes are not mandatory held in nv and md)

Mississippi the state tax is 3%, not 0.3%, for the record. AFAIK, you can't file and get the 3% back in MS. In other states with a state tax on W2G, you can. LA and IA im pretty sure you can get the 6% and 5%(?) back, respectively. I'm sure in some you can and some you can't.

In NV, they typically won't ask if you want fed tax withheld, although in other states where they have a state tax, they'll typically ask "state only or both?"


I've heard of them withholding fed tax in NV on either super big wins and/or if you don't show an SS card. I vaguely remember that happening with a sports ticket to someone I know, but don't remember all the details, so don't quote me on that.

Quote: RS

Mississippi the state tax is 3%, not 0.3%, for the record.

Yes! One day I will figure out how decimal points work! ;P

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AFAIK, you can't file and get the 3% back in MS. In other states with a state tax on W2G, you can. LA and IA im pretty sure you can get the 6% and 5%(?) back, respectively. I'm sure in some you can and some you can't.

In LA, I had $720 withheld in state taxes and got a refund for $545. When the slot attendant was handing me the W-2G, she said I could get most of the withheld taxes back if I filed a state return. She was right -- most, but not all.