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crazydazy
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April 12th, 2017 at 9:00:21 AM permalink
So I've seen articles and heard about AP's who use aliases because their real name will get them flagged.

My question is: what does it mean to have an alias, and how can you legally get away with it?

Does one just get a fake id? My understanding is that would be illegal and extremely risky... or does one just tell them my name is "John Doe"? For us younger looking early 20 year olds who get carded every time we enter a casino how do we pull off an alias?
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April 12th, 2017 at 9:05:55 AM permalink
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So I've seen articles and heard about AP's who use aliases because their real name will get them flagged.

My question is: what does it mean to have an alias, and how can you legally get away with it?

Does one just get a fake id? My understanding is that would be illegal and extremely risky... or does one just tell them my name is "John Doe"? For us younger looking early 20 year olds who get carded every time we enter a casino how do we pull off an alias?

What state?
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crazydazy
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April 12th, 2017 at 9:17:41 AM permalink
Nevada, and New Jersey
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April 12th, 2017 at 9:26:16 AM permalink
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Nevada, and New Jersey

I'm not suggesting or condoning the use of a Fake ID. But according to the experts it's not a crime to present a casino employee in the state of NV a fake ID. Where that line is crossed and it becomes a crime I don't know. For instance: getting a player's card and using benefits? Cashing in chips with a fake ID could lead to problems as they may think your are trying to avoid showing accululated money to avoid CTR type stuff.

I do believe it's illegal to even possess one in NJ and possibly other states.
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April 12th, 2017 at 11:32:30 AM permalink
You can't legally get away with an alias especially if you give them a fake ID. God help anyone if someone hits a jackpot and then gives a fake ID to try to cash their winnings.
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April 12th, 2017 at 11:58:23 AM permalink
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You can't legally get away with an alias especially if you give them a fake ID. God help anyone if someone hits a jackpot and then gives a fake ID to try to cash their winnings.

Whats the Nathan rule?

Repeat after me... I will stick to stuff I'm confident I know about. Perhaps things like forum aliases?

He's using it for Blackjack. People in NV get away with it often.
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April 12th, 2017 at 12:00:52 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

You can't legally get away with an alias especially if you give them a fake ID.


Erm. YES YOU CAN legally get away with an alias. Using an alias is perfectly legal with very few exceptions. It's giving fake ID that is the problem.

I can't speak for US laws, but it's my understanding that I can call myself anything I damned well want to except when asked to identify myself by a police officer. Of course, I would not be able to prove any made up name that I give, so I cannot expect to get any sort of service.
With the police officer, I can generally decline to identify myself in most situations. But again, lying to the police or giving them fake ID is stupidly illegal most places.

As far as giving an 'adopted' name to some two bit casino employee, I would not hesitate, but what's the point if you are not backing it up with fake ID?

Many places, we are asked for name and address for totally spurious reasons, such as when buying high ticket items or joining clubs or gyms. That is just about gathering of marketing info, and I either decline or give a bogus and silly name and give my address as the address of the store or gym. E.g. in PC world when buying a TV, I would give my address as the name on the badge of the salesman or else Peter Charles World and my address as PCWorld Ltd, unit ( whatever) (whatever retail park...etc etc.) Confuses the hell out of them, but they take it or lose a sale. Same goes with collection of my email address and mobile number, they get whatever crap I choose to give them.
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April 12th, 2017 at 12:03:33 PM permalink
Quote: crazydazy

So I've seen articles and heard about AP's who use aliases because their real name will get them flagged.

My question is: what does it mean to have an alias, and how can you legally get away with it?

Does one just get a fake id? My understanding is that would be illegal and extremely risky... or does one just tell them my name is "John Doe"? For us younger looking early 20 year olds who get carded every time we enter a casino how do we pull off an alias?


Give any made up name of your choosing to casino staff. If asked to prove it, don't tender fake ID, just leave and try your luck somewhere else. No offence committed.
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April 12th, 2017 at 12:40:30 PM permalink
U can obtain legal alias identification by applying for it with the government. I believe thats at the federal level and there are rules and limitations

Most celebrities have these

For example john waynes real name was marion Morrison. Guarantee you his id and credit cards all said john wayne
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April 12th, 2017 at 1:00:29 PM permalink
John Wayne legally changed his name early in his career.
His sons were Patrick Wayne and John Wayne Jr.

I worked, for a short time, for a company that provided transportation and security for many celebrities. Most traveled under their real names, not their professional ones.
Jennifer Lopez checks into hotels under a fake name, but flies under her real one., a an example.
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