Quote: onenickelmiracleI'm beginning to think Nathan may have scammed WON by never actually being at Gulfstream. All we know, Nathan claims to be at a Wolf Run by a TITO. Some story about some mystery dark skinned man playing beside. There are many dark people in Florida and many Wolf Run machines. The Miami beach bag, it might not have even been that, maybe Won gave into power of suggestion. Heshe never mentioned a bag, Won did. Never mentioned being a girl, he did, then suddenly she's a girl now.
She said she would be in all black days ahead and that person was. She also said she was wearing a skirt which won never mentioned.
Quote: GWAEShe said she would be in all black days ahead and that person was. She also said she was wearing a skirt which won never mentioned.
He said(paraphrased and excerpted) was there a bag with something on it under a chair? She said, yes, it said Miami Beach. He said, that was what I saw but it was a woman. To me, that's definitive they were both there.
Quote: sammydv200 coin in and what did you actually lose COIN OUT of your pocket. I've seen conflicting definitions of 'coin in' just on this board. Logically, I would assume your player card, because I don't believe any gifts are available without using a card for these promotions would show at least 200 loss amount after all play is done.
But that's my take on it.
Have you now, or ever been, a member of a casino players club?
It doesn't seem like it.
Yes, you play with your card in.
Thursday is a fun day for me. I sit at the casino bar, sipping Apple Pie moonshine with Michelob chasers and munch on free brisket sliders.
Play one or two cent NSUD for a hundred credits a spin, so it takes half an hour to get 200 spins. My theoretical loss is less than one cent a spin. Real life results are all over the place. Hit four 2s one week for a $200 hit. Hit three wild royal another. Think my worst loss was $60 one week.
Most weeks, my results are in the win $20 to lose $20 range, plus my liquid lunch.
Well, I think that most members of this forum who are serious would be happy to send you on another triip abroad in return for a much more interesting thread than this bickering he/she/it said of absolute nonsense about some darned Macy's card.Quote: PokerGrinderBabs if you nuke Nathan, what am I supposed to read while I eat my popcorn?
Quote: beachbumbabsHe said(paraphrased and excerpted) was there a bag with something on it under a chair? She said, yes, it said Miami Beach. He said, that was what I saw but it was a woman. To me, that's definitive they were both there.
But does it prove she was the one who was sitting there? He could have been nearby waiting for WON to approach the unsuspecting bag lady with a $100 gift card hoping for a YouTube moment.
Quote: billryanBut does it prove she was the one who was sitting there? He could have been nearby waiting for WON to approach the unsuspecting bag lady with a $100 gift card hoping for a YouTube moment.
Read my post a few up from here
BBB announced she will nuke Nathan due to false identity, i.e. BBB says Nathan is really Dean, a clear rule violation, as you are not allowed to post under multiple identities (sock puppetry).
But the nuke will not happen until WoN pays the debt?
Why now should he pay, when according to BBB Nathan was here in violation of forum rules the entire time?
So far as I can tell, the decision to nuke relieves WoN from the responsibility to pay, and he should not be considered a welsher.
Then again if Nathan is not nuked, then arguably the debt is owed.
What a cluster****!
I'm way late to the party, but why did won's ticket show as online? Sorry for the ignorance if this was already discussed.Quote: BozPure comedy Gold. WoN walking around looking for a guy dressed in Black. Haven't been this into a thread in a long while, checking for updates.
That all said, regardless of how this turns out, I will admit I believe Nathan is a "legit" poster. A different one, but I think everything he posts is how he actually sees things.
Quote: MrVThis is so very confusing, not to mention weird.
BBB announced she will nuke Nathan due to false identity, i.e. BBB says Nathan is really Dean, a clear rule violation, as you are not allowed to post under multiple identities (sock puppetry).
But the nuke will not happen until WoN pays the debt?
Why now should he pay, when according to BBB Nathan was here in violation of forum rules the entire time?
So far as I can tell, the decision to nuke relieves WoN from the responsibility to pay, and he should not be considered a welsher.
Then again if Nathan is not nuked, then arguably the debt is owed.
What a cluster****!
I did not say nuke. I'm still trying to sort out what's going on here. I was answering a growing consensus that there's a sock - puppet issue by posting some of what I'm looking at.
But I don't think you can conflate the dupe ID's issue with the specific offer WoN made. Those terms were accepted and met. WoN further confirmed he needs to follow through by posting the poll and saying he would abide by its result, which was that he owes the card to Nathan.
The only way they are communicating is thru this board. So that needs to be resolved with both accounts active. I reject the premise that WoN doesn't owe based on a possible dupe ID situation, and I would consider it a welch if he doesn't pay. He set out to prove Nathan wasn't real, and I think she proved she was.
Quote: FleaStiffWell, I think that most members of this forum who are serious would be happy to send you on another triip abroad in return for a much more interesting thread than this bickering he/she/it said of absolute nonsense about some darned Macy's card.
Well Fleastiff if the members of the forum want to pay me to go abroad again I might be able to be convinced :P
Quote: beachbumbabsI did not say nuke. I'm still trying to sort out what's going on here. I was answering a growing consensus that there's a sock - puppet issue by posting some of what I'm looking at.
You said: "3 strikes, you're out. HOWEVER, WoN has a debt to make good on. I'm not banning anybody until that's resolved. Get 'ur done."
Sure sounds like you said you'll nuke/ban Nathan once the bet is paid.
Quote: beachbumbabsBut I don't think you can conflate the dupe ID's issue with the specific offer WoN made. Those terms were accepted and met. WoN further confirmed he needs to follow through by posting the poll and saying he would abide by its result, which was that he owes the card to Nathan.
Here is where it gets sticky.
While the conditions of the bet have been fulfilled, I argue that by posting as a sock Nathan does not, indeed cannot, qualify as a member of the board; the bet was ostensibly made on the forum by two forum members; Nathan has been branded a sock, and as such the bet was made under false pretenses.
No bet.
Quote: MrVYou said: "3 strikes, you're out. HOWEVER, WoN has a debt to make good on. I'm not banning anybody until that's resolved. Get 'ur done."
Sure sounds like you said you'll nuke/ban Nathan once the bet is paid.
Jury's still out. There's more than just me deciding this.
Quote:Here is where it gets sticky.
While the conditions of the bet have been fulfilled, I argue that by posting as a sock Nathan does not, indeed cannot, qualify as a member of the board; the bet was ostensibly made on the forum by two forum members; Nathan has be branded a sock, and as such the bet was made under false pretenses.
No bet.
It was never a bet. It was IF you show and thereby prove you're real, THEN you get the card. The IF happened. Even you stipulate that. At the time the IF happened, Nathan was a member in good standing (still is for now). It's not subject to retroactivity.
Funny when you think Nathan is not trolling, Nathan is trolling. He lied his way through this, took credit for being some woman neither knows, and fooled us all. Did it just like a woman, manipulating the whole way.
The most critical thing is, did Wizard of Nothing really see a Miami beach bag, or did he see a bag and become a victim of the power of suggestion. It's possible. He first mentioned the bag, not her. She//he never mentioned the bag until he did.
MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT PERSON WAS NEVER AT COYOTE MOON
THEY WERE AT WOLF RUN!!!!!!!
Quote: WizardofnothingI saw a bag
MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT PERSON WAS NEVER AT COYOTE MOON
THEY WERE AT WOLF RUN!!!!!!!
Would be more appropriate it they were at Lil Lady, a slot clone of the other 2.
If you're Donald Trump, just admit it. You promise huh? I promise=I lie.Quote: NathanI am not a sock puppet. I promise.
I turned my chair around only on the Coyote Moon slot and left my Miami Beach bag near the two games as indication I was coming back. I should have turned around BOTH Wolf Run chair and Coyote Moon chair, but I was ready to explode and only saved one game.
When I came back, a dark skinned guy was playing on the Wolf Run machine, and the older lady was still playing King Of Cheetah so I now had to play just the Coyote Moon machine while the dark skinned guy played Wolf Run at 80 cents a hit up and down. We chatted amicably(And come to think of it, I DID write "What race are you?" to WON on here obviously beginning to wonder if I was looking at WON when looking at the dark skinned guy) and then he cashed out and left.
I then went back to the Wolf Run machine and played both Wolf Run and Coyote Moon. WON himself said,"I saw some woman sitting at Wolf Run playing both Wolf Run and Coyote Moon. There was nobody actually sitting in front of the Coyote Moon." So, our posts correlate with each other.
If that's true, you can prove it by being there. You never said you were a woman until he mentioned seeing a woman. You never mentioned a bag until he mentioned a bag. Either you guessed right or he remembered wrong at this point.Quote: NathanActually, look at my older posts from when I was at Gulfstream. I clearly said,"I am sitting at the Wolf Run machine,by the TITO machine playing both Wolf Run and Coyote Moon," I then had to pee really badly and get some change, so I asked the older woman who was playing King Of Cheetah or whatever game it was to watch my Coyote Moon machine for me for a few minutes for me and she graciously accepted.
I turned my chair around only on the Coyote Moon slot and left my Miami Beach bag near the two games as indication I was coming back. I should have turned around BOTH Wolf Run chair and Coyote Moon chair, but I was ready to explode and only saved one game.
When I came back, a dark skinned guy was playing on the Wolf Run machine, and the older lady was still playing King Of Cheetah so I now had to play just the Coyote Moon machine while the dark skinned guy played Wolf Run at 80 cents a hit up and down. We chatted amicably(And come to think of it, I DID write "What race are you?" to WON on here obviously beginning to wonder if I was looking at WON when looking at the dark skinned guy) and then he cashed out and left.
I then went back to the Wolf Run machine and played both Wolf Run and Coyote Moon. WON himself said,"I saw some woman sitting at Wolf Run playing both Wolf Run and Coyote Moon. There was nobody actually sitting in front of the Coyote Moon." So, our posts correlate with each other.
Tell me about Gulfstream. What does the carpet look like, who are the employees you know by name and their description, what machines did they have but took out, what has been put in recently, etc., etc. Tell me something you didn't read on the internet.
Quote: NathanI am not a sock puppet. I promise.
And your word is as good as gold.
To the right is Sherlock Holmes and House Of Cards/Big Bang Theory(They may have just taken out BBT). Go up a little and you will see some kind of Pharoah/King Tut game that has a warning,"Not for epileptic players as it may cause seizures." The Pharoah/ King Tut really dies shake like he is having a slight seizure when the bonus is hit. There is a free change machine right by the cashier cage. The free change machine is also near a game meant for two people to enjoy together. The carpet color is burgundy/maroonish.The employees wear redorange shirts and black pants. The player's card player's card tier are Bronze, Gold, Silver, Platinum. There are two casino floors.
So you go by nathanial and Nathan and Karen? Can you email me your pic since I already saw you- I'll confirm that it's the person I saw and send over the gift cards
It doesn't mean I don't think you are dean or kentry as well who both played wolf run ironically .
Nothing you have ever said says Karen
Email - better yet
Without even a picture
Take a pic of your players card
Show me just the card and the Karen- block out the res t
You clearly were trying to fool me as you said because I posted I saw a woman and outright asked- I never said what I was wearing because I was standing right behind this person and thought I was going into a trap and possibly robbed or followed
Quote: GWAEMR v have you joined the club as the people's attorney like a fellow banned member? You seem to be taking all of this way too seriously.
I revel in the absurdity of human behavior.
As for this little contretemps: let's just say "I'm slumming."
Quote: NathanONM, I am probably not allowed to post names of Casino employees on here, but they constantly have changing licensed game is near the entrance. When you first walk in there are bathrooms and a TITO machine. They had Gremlins, Wonder Woman, The Goonies, and now they have Michael Jackson. Mixed in with the licensed games is something called Cash Wheel or something like that.
To the right is Sherlock Holmes and House Of Cards/Big Bang Theory(They may have just taken out BBT). Go up a little and you will see some kind of Pharoah/King Tut game that has a warning,"Not for epileptic players as it may cause seizures." The Pharoah/ King Tut really dies shake like he is having a slight seizure when the bonus is hit. There is a free change machine right by the cashier cage. The free change machine is also near a game meant for two people to enjoy together. The carpet color is burgundy/maroonish.The employees wear redorange shirts and black pants. The player's card player's card tier are Bronze, Gold, Silver, Platinum. There are two casino floors.
and you are the same person that said , the casino may not want a promo mentioned, that was for a CANDLE?????????
yea that wanted to keep that hush hush, I can almost guarantee that the pm you claim to receive was another made up story on your behalf
Added: I did not consider the possibility Nathan was not the woman and had observed her the same way WON did. Nathan saw the woman playing wearing black perhaps, decided to pretend Nathan was her. Or she was paid to play there and pretend to be Kentry. Unlikely, not what one would expect, but possible. It's critical to find this woman to know for sure this woman really was Nathan. This doesn't seem likely to happen, especially considering Nathan might be banned before anyone might be able to meet there. It's like an author dying before finishing a trilogy, None of this might not be important a week from now anyways. Right now I just would like to know this is a true story, Karen is Nathan, Karen was at the casino and it's the truth with no doubts.
Stop already. She, he, it owes you nothing.Quote: onenickelmiracleOk you're a woman pretending to be a man, assuming this credibility of knowledge of the casino is real. You make so much stuff up, it's hard to believe anything you say, lying is not a good quality. Maybe you were there instead of you probably not being there. Can you post your face pic here so we can see who Nathan is? We have to see it to believe it. All the other women here have for the most part, it would be kind of unusual if you didn't. Perhaps upload it as your profile avatar.
Why don't you post your face pic first, with a part of your drivers license showing your age and sex, pic and location.
You know, a good faith gesture. How about by 10am Friday.
You're Kentry and I don't take orders from Kentry.Quote: sammydvStop already. She, he, it owes you nothing.
Why don't you post your face pic first, with a part of your drivers license showing your age and sex, pic and location.
You know, a good faith gesture. How about by 10am Friday.
Okay.Quote: onenickelmiracleYou're Kentry and I don't take orders from Kentry.
but I should have typed 'Please stop already' so it wouldn't come off as a cold demand but some friendly advice.
gl
Didn't you get your ATM card taken away from you by your family or something like that?Quote: NathanBabs, I promise I am not Dean. And in that thread Dean claimed that the lady was selling her magazine in a casino. I could never see myself degrading myself so low as to sell a magazine ina casino. I just innocently read magazines in my leisure time. I actually lost money chasing the Macy's gift card myself even though I still had my ATM card on me(At the time, I still thought that EVERYONE got the Macy's gift card that made 100 points or $5 a point) and I got up and went home. I didn't sell anything or beg people to let me put my player's card in their machines like those two guys were doing. I just decided,"Okay, I lost money. Don't use the ATM card. Just go home."
Quote: onenickelmiracleShe didn't become a woman until Wizard of Nothing says he saw some woman there. She doesn't give up any information freely, just adopts whatever they're suggesting. He's like I saw some woman, Nathans says, oh yeah, that's me, I'm a woman, your fault. I'm telling you there is a great chance Nathan was not there and just conned us into believing he was there. Please Won, make a handoff, and if she doesn't show up, it's done. What has this liar said to really prove she has even ever been to Gulfstream.? Nothing. He doesn't even know anything about it. Avoids and ignores all good questions painting Nathan in a corner.
Funny when you think Nathan is not trolling, Nathan is trolling. He lied his way through this, took credit for being some woman neither knows, and fooled us all. Did it just like a woman, manipulating the whole way.
The most critical thing is, did Wizard of Nothing really see a Miami beach bag, or did he see a bag and become a victim of the power of suggestion. It's possible. He first mentioned the bag, not her. She//he never mentioned the bag until he did.
A week ago Nathan said they would be in all black. The person was wearing all black. A woman wearing all black is not that common so it would take a really lucky shot to make that happen. It is possible that Nathan was not there. Maybe Nathan,kentry,dean are 2 people but roommates or husband/wife.
Quote: onenickelmiracleNathan is a man pretending to be a woman pretending to be a man not a woman pretending to be a man.
I am very generous with other members money, since any such collection to end this thread would obviously never come from someone named fleastiff. Ever thought of woofing your way through Astralian casinos and the Tasmanian wine country?Quote: PokerGrinderWell Fleastiff if the members of the forum want to pay me to go abroad again I might be able to be convinced :P
If Nathan would post a real and valid pic of himerself on this site, I think the forum would forgive all of his/her/their past shenanigans and start anew. Would everyone agree here? Nathan , this is your chance to start fresh and gain credibility... or you can go on as a multi alias, attention seeking, pathetic troll..... with a cute hobo bag.
Quote: mcallister3200What if, Strictly hypothetically of course, a sock was trolling/duping another member who had previously been nuked under a different account and is now "good" under a new handle. Feels like a bad movie......
Strictly A hyPothetically, yes that would be quite interesting.
But WoN said something about feeling like he was getting tricked or falling into a trap.
Quote: FleaStiffI am very generous with other members money, since any such collection to end this thread would obviously never come from someone named fleastiff. Ever thought of woofing your way through Astralian casinos and the Tasmanian wine country?
I have actually partially planned that trip already but I plan on going back to Asia before Australia most likely.
Quote:It is obvious that Nathan needs attention, and she/he/they is getting plenty of it. I will pray for him/her/them.
If Nathan would post a real and valid pic of himerself on this site, I think the forum would forgive all of his/her/their past shenanigans and start anew. Would everyone agree here? Nathan , this is your chance to start fresh and gain credibility... or you can go on as a multi alias, attention seeking, pathetic troll..... with a cute hobo bag.
Soon as you post your personal pic with all your personal information. Or is watchmewin your maiden name?
People asking ANY member to post their personal pics and information is the most ignorant and ridiculous request on a public gambling chat board where EVERYONE else uses fake names and stupid pictures.
C'mon people, THINK!
I think you're trying to oppress Nathan. Maybe this is feminism in your mind, but it's just controlling her to your beliefs. I'm not sure what Nathan has to lose, might even gain by being discovered and becoming a YouTube star. It's not ignorant at all, since her appearance became an issue. Wizard of nothing saw her, Nathan was not a man, and we're just curious what her face looks like. If she posts the same face Won saw, then we'll feel like we can trust her. Without her face, there will still be doubts it was just a royal con within a con within a con. I'm not interested in her name, she can keep that to herself.Quote: sammydvSoon as you post your personal pic with all your personal information. Or is watchmewin your maiden name?
People asking ANY member to post their personal pics and information is the most ignorant and ridiculous request on a public gambling chat board where EVERYONE else uses fake names and stupid pictures.
C'mon people, THINK!
Quote: sammydvSoon as you post your personal pic with all your personal information. Or is watchmewin your maiden name?
People asking ANY member to post their personal pics and information is the most ignorant and ridiculous request on a public gambling chat board where EVERYONE else uses fake names and stupid pictures.
C'mon people, THINK!
I didnt say anything about personal information...and given his/her history of deceit and WoN's account of his/her bs, Nathan can shut us all up and show who he/she is. And yes, my maiden name is watchmewin. How did you guess?
Quote: sammydvSoon as you post your personal pic with all your personal information. Or is watchmewin your maiden name?
People asking ANY member to post their personal pics and information is the most ignorant and ridiculous request on a public gambling chat board where EVERYONE else uses fake names and stupid pictures.
C'mon people, THINK!
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