Possible AP at Cleveland's JACK casino
I played at the Cleveland Horseshoe quite a bit, and almost all my TR pay was done at the Cleveland Horseshoe.
I had the exact amount (rounded up to the next dollar) added to my JACK card, and still have the points on my TR card.
I have a friend from Chicago who played at the Cleveland Horseshoe, maybe twice a year, for the four years it has been open, but is a Diamond member based on his play at other TR casinos, and all his points transferred.
If you have an assload of points, and plan on being near tropical Cleveland Ohio, you might find it in your interest to grab a JACK card, even if you just piss it away on on some crap slots or VP plays.
According to my host, the free transition will be allowed until Aug 7th.
I know Seven Stars players with $10K in RCs (earned through 10X RC multiplier days)- is it worth a trip for them?
Quote: RomesA buddy I visit in that area sometimes told me about this (he wanted my opinion). I asked the conversion rate, and he said it's garbage, like 30%. So if you have $1,000 in comp dollars, you can get $300 in play. I'd rather blow them spending them in Vegas getting a $200 massage, eating the Bachnal Buffet every day, etc, than give up 70% of the value.
Quote: Maverick17you don't lose the RC's you have accumulated from the TR program.
Quote: RomesA buddy I visit in that area sometimes told me about this (he wanted my opinion). I asked the conversion rate, and he said it's garbage, like 30%. So if you have $1,000 in comp dollars, you can get $300 in play. I'd rather blow them spending them in Vegas getting a $200 massage, eating the Bachnal Buffet every day, etc, than give up 70% of the value.
Nope
Quote: RomesI'm saying if you wanted to run them off as FP...
again, Nope
Quote: RomesI'm saying if you wanted to run them off as FP...
I still don't understand your point. You can still use the TR RC for massages and buffets and shows. That is only impacted by this offer insofar as you need to go to Jack and do the match before going nuts in Vegas. Wouldn't really take much planning to make both things happen, would it?
Quote: phendricksSo this is only applicable to RCs earned at the old Horseshoe Cleveland? How would they verify your RC balance?
I know Seven Stars players with $10K in RCs (earned through 10X RC multiplier days)- is it worth a trip for them?
Almost all of my Total Reward's play was done at the Horseshoe Cleveland. Like 90%+. All of my RC's converted at a rate of $1 per 100 RC's and they rounded me up to the next dollar. Same as if I had wanted to spend the points as RC points.
My buddy is almost the exact opposite. His play is 95%+ OUTSIDE of Horseshoe Cleveland (or any other JACK property for that matter) and all of his RC's transferred to the JACK point system at the same $1 per 100 points as mine did.
I, however, do NOT know what would happen if a TR member who had NEVER gambled at the Horseshoe Cleveland, or if they had not gambled there for a long time, would fair if/when they tried to get the free points on a new JACK card.
Quote: rdw4potusI still don't understand your point. You can still use the TR RC for massages and buffets and shows. That is only impacted by this offer insofar as you need to go to Jack and do the match before going nuts in Vegas. Wouldn't really take much planning to make both things happen, would it?
Correct, your TR RC's say on that card and can be used at any location that accepts them.
You get the dollar equivalent of JACK points that will essentially double your points, but one set has to be used at a TR location, and the other at a JACK location.
Quote: RomesI'm not sure about a lot because clearly I haven't been to the area, but he said he attempted to convert his JACK comp dollars (which were his copied over Horseshoe dollars) to free play and it was 30%... so that I believe 100%.
How did he "attempt to convert his JACK comp dollars"
LMG - you don't know
I trust him 100%. I'll bet you right now their conversion rate from Comp Dollars to Free Play is 33%, or less. Put your money where your mouth is?
Quote: MoosetonHappen to know the limit?
I do not, but unless I am a special snowflake (and I am definitely not) the limit is over $1,000 of actual JACK money or 100,000 RC's. Maybe much more ;)
My host was either very sly, or honestly didn't know how the transfer process would work. We talked to a couple people, quite high in the JACK casino about it, and were given different answers in the weeks before the conversion, but I decided to gamble and not piss my points away on some VP, and see what would happen, and I guess that was a smart move.
Your rewards credits are matched by new JACK points or whatever, and your rewards credits remain in tact.
You can now convert these new JACK points, which are independent of your rewards credits, into freeplay at 33%.
(I would still prefer to spend the points on food and stuff.)
Quote: RomesI WAS ON THE PHONE WITH HIM. He said it's all Kiosks now and there a "Convert Comps To Free Play" button. Sound about right? Why are you trying to be a rude when I clearly have good information from someone I trust?
I trust him 100%. I'll bet you right now their conversion rate from Comp Dollars to Free Play is 33%, or less. Put your money where your mouth is?
wonderful
So you are saying if I have $100 of comps on my card, I can either buy $100 worth of food, or $33-ish dollars worth of free play?
That seems about the most bass-ackwards attempt to appease customers I have ever heard of, but the way this JACK casino thing has gone so far, maybe that is how it works. Any casino I have paid any attention to comps at has rewarded customers for using their points as free play vs food or hotel comps, rather than slash the benefit by 2/3rds.
I am talking about converting your RC's to JACK points. The ratio is 100 RC's to $1 JACK comp.
PRECISELY. Glad I'm not even in the same state and clearly I know more about it than you...Quote: Maverick17wonderful
So you are saying if I have $100 of comps on my card, I can either buy $100 worth of food, or $33-ish dollars worth of free play?
That I never argued, and that's how RC's translated to "comp dollars" with Caesars anyways. If you had 10,000 RC's you had 100 comp dollars.Quote: Maverick17I am talking about converting your RC's to JACK points. The ratio is 100 RC's to $1 JACK comp.
Quote: RomesPRECISELY. Glad I'm not even in the same state and clearly I know more about it than you...
That I never argued, and that's how RC's translated to "comp dollars" with Caesars anyways. If you had 10,000 RC's you had 100 comp dollars.
I am not saying you are right, just that if you are, it's dumb, and either way, it is not what this thread is about.
Quote: RomesA buddy I visit in that area sometimes told me about this (he wanted my opinion). I asked the conversion rate, and he said it's garbage, like 30%. So if you have $1,000 in comp dollars, you can get $300 in play. I'd rather blow them spending them in Vegas getting a $200 massage, eating the Bachnal Buffet every day, etc, than give up 70% of the value.
and if you are so enlightened, how do you explain this post?
But if they offer $3K in comps (which Romes notes converts to ~$1K in free play) if I sign up for a new card and I get to keep my 300,000 in Total Rewards RCs, I'll go watch a NBA Finals game and take advantage of this offer for sure.
As for APing them. I was under the impression that only people who played in Cleveland or cincy were going to be converted into Jack. I also thought they were only converting with points until the change over which already happened. If you go in now they will match the card but I didn't think the points.
Quote: IbeatyouracesMotorcity and Greektown have been allowing the comps to free play at the $3 to $1 for a long time now. Nothing at either worth buying so the free play is the best option.
So 60k worth 200. What about food, is it 1 to 1?.
Quote: Maverick17JACK Cleveland is giving total rewards members equal credit for the RC's they have on their TR card when they sign up for the JACK card, and you don't lose the RC's you have accumulated from the TR program.
I played at the Cleveland Horseshoe quite a bit, and almost all my TR pay was done at the Cleveland Horseshoe.
I had the exact amount (rounded up to the next dollar) added to my JACK card, and still have the points on my TR card.
I have a friend from Chicago who played at the Cleveland Horseshoe, maybe twice a year, for the four years it has been open, but is a Diamond member based on his play at other TR casinos, and all his points transferred.
If you have an assload of points, and plan on being near tropical Cleveland Ohio, you might find it in your interest to grab a JACK card, even if you just piss it away on on some crap slots or VP plays.
According to my host, the free transition will be allowed until Aug 7th.
Another thing I would be careful about. My wife has 64000 on her jack card. The last time she used her TR card was in Feb and at last look she had 94,000 points so they didn't convert at 1 to 1 or they did it wrong. Not sure which.
Quote: GWAESo 60k worth 200. What about food, is it 1 to 1?.
Yeah. But exchanging to fp, you're limited per day to a certain amount based on card status. Signature Elite can max $3000 to $1000 fp per day.
Basically as a bonus for using your jack card they will give you 1/3 of whatever your current rewards credits are on your TC card. In Freeplay
So if you have 3k (value wise) at Cet then you are getting a 1k bonus at jack
It's not worth the trip
If you have that kind of balance at Cet you are most likely getting decent offers to match
(Unless you just hoard credits ,
There is an ap opp using a certain credit card but I'll leave it at that
Massages, RFB.
Still an open question on conversion to free play? Is that where we are at?
And a question about limits/caps ?
Edit - walked in, this wasn't posted yet. I hit post. dummy. When I get a chance I'll go back and laugh at how far behind the thread I was when I hit post. Got to go cook now. later. 2F
Quote: TwoFeathersATLSo you can blow your TR RCs at CET properties, after you get a match and blow those new Jack RCs at Jacks.
Massages, RFB.
Still an open question on conversion to free play? Is that where we are at?
And a question about limits/caps ?
Edit - walked in, this wasn't posted yet. I hit post. dummy. When I get a chance I'll go back and laugh at how far behind the thread I was when I hit post. Got to go cook now. later. 2F
Fine print says anyone with any feathers is excluded, no soup for you
Quote: phendricksI'll call up JACK Cleveland Casino and ask. I am 2,000+ miles away and I have never been to Cleveland, OH.
But if they offer $3K in comps (which Romes notes converts to ~$1K in free play) if I sign up for a new card and I get to keep my 300,000 in Total Rewards RCs, I'll go watch a NBA Finals game and take advantage of this offer for sure.
If you never played there when it was Horseshoe, I doubt this would work as GWAE said. My g/f could possibly do it in Cincy when they convert, but I think I didn't bother to trigger a gaming day with my own card when we visited. :(
And this is the exact scenario that happened when Hollywood took over Harrah's STL. I wish we would have hoarded more points from CET's 2011 "Race to Rewards" before the takeover. We got nearly the entire balance of RCs earned at any CET in the country rewarded, which was mostly those "Race to Rewards" points, and it was worth about $250 in food comps for me.
Quote: tringlomaneIf you never played there when it was Horseshoe, I doubt this would work as GWAE said. My g/f could possibly do it in Cincy when they convert, but I think I didn't bother to trigger a gaming day with my own card when we visited. :(
And this is the exact scenario that happened when Hollywood took over Harrah's STL. I wish we would have hoarded more points from CET's 2011 "Race to Rewards" before the takeover. We got nearly the entire balance of RCs earned at any CET in the country rewarded, which was mostly those "Race to Rewards" points, and it was worth about $250 in food comps for me.
That is exactly why we have a bunch if points. I find it weird that they would convert what your current balance is. It makes no sense because someone like me hoarded points and I am completely worthless to them. But then there is a 7stars with a 1k theo that spends their points daily that would get nothing.
I was also told that if a person has a diamond card and goes in there but has never gambled at horsehoe cleveland they will be upgraded in status but won't get any points.
Lastly, I was also told that cincy has not done the conversion yet so if any points were earned at horseshoe cincy then my account would end up with more points once that was done.
Quote: RomesI'm not sure about a lot because clearly I haven't been to the area, but he said he attempted to convert his JACK comp dollars (which were his copied over Horseshoe dollars) to free play and it was 30%... so that I believe 100%.
Wasn't there some other Harrahs doing the same, perhaps in MS.?
