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August 17th, 2010 at 9:35:19 AM permalink
Pretty simple question.
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August 17th, 2010 at 9:45:24 AM permalink
Pastafarianism. I worship the invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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August 17th, 2010 at 9:48:50 AM permalink
If the Pascal's Wager thread is to be believed, what difference does it make?
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August 17th, 2010 at 9:50:52 AM permalink
What is the difference between agnostic and "no religion"? I think by definition an agnostic would have no religion.

ag·nos·tic   /ægˈnɒstɪk/ Show Spelled[ag-nos-tik] –noun
1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as god, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
2. a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study. -- Websters.com.
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August 17th, 2010 at 10:01:09 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

What is the difference between agnostic and "no religion"? I think by definition an agnostic would have no religion.

ag·nos·tic   /ægˈnɒstɪk/ Show Spelled[ag-nos-tik] –noun
1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as god, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
2. a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study. -- Websters.com.



I was just wondering that same thing. I guess I could see some room for difference. I think in order to doubt something, you have to first acknowledge that it might be true. Someone with no religion "knows for sure" that there is no God. Someone who is agnostic allows for the possibility that there is a God but thinks that its existence cannot be proven by men.
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August 17th, 2010 at 10:05:38 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

What is the difference between agnostic and "no religion"? I think by definition an agnostic would have no religion.

ag·nos·tic   /ægˈnɒstɪk/ Show Spelled[ag-nos-tik] –noun
1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as god, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
2. a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study. -- Websters.com.



The distinction between "agnostic" and "atheist" is subtle but real. It flies over the heads of religious people, who separate the world into "believers" and "unbelievers".

An agnostic does not deny the existence of supernatural beings controlling our every action; he simply strongly doubts that if such beings/deities do exist, it is very unlikely that we have figured out their true nature. Given that there are 45,987.3 religions in the world, all of which vehemently deny the possibility of theirs NOT being the only correct one, I think this is a rational stance.

An atheist flatly denies the existence of a God or gods, and this too is a rational stance since there is not the slightest evidence for the existence of either.

Of course, "rational human being" is pretty much an oxymoron.
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August 17th, 2010 at 10:08:52 AM permalink
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What is the difference between agnostic and "no religion"? I think by definition an agnostic would have no religion.



Agnostics are usually thsoe who stand on the fence on the question of whether or not God exists. They may have no religion, but there are others who have no religion either.

So maybe they shouldn't have been in a category apart.
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August 17th, 2010 at 10:14:07 AM permalink
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Pastafarianism. I worship the invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti Monster.



I'm quite fond of good pasta. Can you elaborate on your religious rituals? Any chainti at all involved? Is white wine allowed with Alfredo sauce?
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August 17th, 2010 at 10:30:53 AM permalink
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I'm quite fond of good pasta. Can you elaborate on your religious rituals? Any chainti at all involved? Is white wine allowed with Alfredo sauce?



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August 17th, 2010 at 10:50:08 AM permalink
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What is the difference between agnostic and "no religion"?

I was wondering the same thing, except, I was taught that an AETHIEST is a non-believer, while an agnostic is a doubter.

Personally, I chose 'other'.

I was raised Jewish.

I'm a Reverend in the Church of Spiritual Humanism. Spiritual Humanism believes that spirituality comes from within, and not from a higher power.

In December, I often jokingly state that I am a "Festivan" - We celebrate the holiday of Festivus.
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August 17th, 2010 at 10:54:41 AM permalink
My company celebrates Festivus every year. Pretty accurately, too. There's a crockpot processional, airing of grievances, Festivus Pole, etc. And it doesn't end until that year's new hires successfully pin our CEO as a feat of strength.
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August 18th, 2010 at 10:29:30 PM permalink
I used to worship 12 year old bourbon but now it gives me heartburn. Now I worship expensive vodka. Or cheap vodka and cranberry juice, I'm easy. Its a flexible religion.
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August 19th, 2010 at 5:13:52 AM permalink
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I used to worship 12 year old bourbon but now it gives me heartburn. Now I worship expensive vodka. Or cheap vodka and cranberry juice, I'm easy. Its a flexible religion.

You need to be flexible to worship at the porcelain altar (especially after the cheap vodka and cranberry).
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August 19th, 2010 at 7:01:49 AM permalink
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I used to worship 12 year old bourbon but now it gives me heartburn. Now I worship expensive vodka. Or cheap vodka and cranberry juice, I'm easy. Its a flexible religion.



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August 19th, 2010 at 8:56:37 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

"There's no better drink than pure water, provided you use vodka as the purifying agent." Isaac Asimov, Fantastic Voyage II



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