Deck007
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June 10th, 2015 at 7:37:35 PM permalink
Here in Asia we don't do that.
The points earned are based solely on the table minimum bet and your hours of play and your Comps are based on your points earned.
Except in the high rollers area where for obvious reasons special Comps/Rewards should be given to some of them.
Why not cut out this cat and mouse game between the pit boss and players.
It will also relieve the pit boss from a lot of work and resulting from less pit boss being needed.
rdw4potus
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June 10th, 2015 at 7:40:10 PM permalink
Sure, that would save time. But wouldn't anyone betting more than the minimum get fewer comps?
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Deck007
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June 10th, 2015 at 7:49:11 PM permalink
Where I play I am about the only one betting table minimum.
Not uncommon here where I bet $100 min. in baccarat and the guy beside me bet $1000.
A few times it happens the guy next to me bet $10,000.
rdw4potus
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June 10th, 2015 at 7:54:08 PM permalink
I guess my point is that the guy betting $10,000/hand really really really wants to be rated based on his bet and not on the $100 table minimum. He would hate your idea about the pit boss rating player based on the minimum instead of on their bets. He'd lose hundreds and hundreds of dollars in comps if that change was made.
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Dieter
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June 10th, 2015 at 8:16:32 PM permalink
Quote: Deck007

The points earned are based solely on the table minimum bet and your hours of play and your Comps are based on your points earned.



And that makes reasonable sense for baccarat.

For Blackjack, the dominant game around here, I typically see the suits track average bet size, player skill level, and table speed. Those three combine to make the theo-per-hour. which then combines with time played to be the theo* for the player at the table.

Comps are based on theo.

It is also possibly useful to know the average bet sizes for chip inventory.


*Theo: House Theoretical Win. More or less, house edge * average bet * rounds played. House edge changes in blackjack with player skill, which is why they track that, too.
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Deck007
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June 10th, 2015 at 8:28:23 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

And that makes reasonable sense for baccarat.

For Blackjack, the dominant game around here, I typically see the suits track average bet size, player skill level, and table speed. Those three combine to make the theo-per-hour. which then combines with time played to be the theo* for the player at the table.

Comps are based on theo.

It is also possibly useful to know the average bet sizes for chip inventory.


*Theo: House Theoretical Win. More or less, house edge * average bet * rounds played. House edge changes in blackjack with player skill, which is why they track that, too.



I am basically a BJ player. But play baccarat only if say the BJ table is empty and the speed of play far over ride the BJ small HE. Theo or ADT matters really matters for the serious gamblers only and not the recreational occasional players.
andysif
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June 10th, 2015 at 8:33:04 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Sure, that would save time. But wouldn't anyone betting more than the minimum get fewer comps?


I think the OP's question is legit.

why do the casino care?
sure the player is short-changed, but if "thats the way it is anywhere else", then they get used to it.
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June 11th, 2015 at 1:49:07 AM permalink
Quote: andysif

I think the OP's question is legit.

why do the casino care?
sure the player is short-changed, but if "thats the way it is anywhere else", then they get used to it.



Sure if it was always been done that way then no one would care. However, it is not, so if a casino were to do that then everyone would care.
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FleaStiff
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June 11th, 2015 at 2:58:30 AM permalink
Floor Persons and Pit Bosses also keep track of pikers and floaters. People who bet small wandering from table to table and then try to cash in chips for money that they've purchased on a credit card either themselves or thru a front man.

Comps in the USA casinos are too important to be utterly dispensed with and have everyone just get a token amount based on time and minimum bet instead of time and actual bet. The casino wants to "mine" the players and get the high grade ore.
PGBuster
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June 11th, 2015 at 4:23:54 AM permalink
Within a deck or a shoe, it can also catch counters who get too greedy. If someone bets 10x their average bet when a plus count exists, its a dead giveaway.

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