Bac79 wins...goodbye
Bac79, lion, elisvandyck, aceman and the countless other names have won. Somehow he knows where I am and is suggesting I say hi to certain people. This hits way too close to home and beachbumbabs seems to have a soft spot in her heart for this guy - not sure why but none of my business. When a message board creeps into real life and unknown things become known, it is time to take stock of the situation and call it quits.
It is truly a shame that one man can wreak havoc on a community but, with the sympathy of BABS, who, rather than look out for me, looks out for him/them - so, bac79 and all of your iterations, including, possibly, the new aceman account, you win - I am vacating the board - have fun on here and I wish you all the best - you win.
Goodnight and good luck.
Quote: aceofspades
Goodnight and good luck.
It was nice knowing ya, Ace. I'll
miss your TR's.
Quote: rdw4potusshould we take this as a resignation, complete with the required hiatus before reinstatement?
Nah not attention-whoring -- this is hitting too close to home with people knowing my whereabouts that were not posted and then naming names of people that likely have eyes on me. Not worth it to me.
Quote: EvenBobIt was nice knowing ya, Ace. I'll
miss your TR's.
Thanks Bob - I hope this is not the last I hear from you.
Quote: aceofspadesThanks Bob - I hope this is not the last I hear from you.
You'll hear from my attorney next week.
You can't rob me of good schaden and
get away with it. This is all about me,
as are all things..
Quote: djatcThis is like the crazy ex girlfriend except you got nothing out of the deal. Also never stick your d*** in crazy.
When a certain moderator chooses a fraud over a long-standing member - the writing is on the wall. Not sure what relationship BABS has with Bac79 but it appears to have clouded her judgment - if they are happy then I am happy for them
Quote: EvenBobYou'll hear from my attorney next week.
You can't rob me of good schaden and
get away with it. This is all about me,
as are all things..
I'll miss you most of all Scarecrow
Quote: aceofspadesNah not attention-whoring -- this is hitting too close to home with people knowing my whereabouts that were not posted and then naming names of people that likely have eyes on me. Not worth it to me.
You go to the same place every time. And talk about it. All someone would have to do is read your past reports. They're fun, so it's not exactly a stretch to think that someone who is new and wants to liveblog might research a bit & read yours. Plus, YOU MENTIONED THE SURRENDER RULE and THERE IS ONLY ONE PLACE IN TOWN WHERE THAT EXISTS AND IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE.
FWIW, I don't want to you to go. At least not until after the tourney:-)
Quote: aceofspadesI surrender .
Bac79, lion, elisvandyck, aceman and the countless other names have won. Somehow he knows where I am and is suggesting I say hi to certain people. This hits way too close to home and beachbumbabs seems to have a soft spot in her heart for this guy - not sure why but none of my business. When a message board creeps into real life and unknown things become known, it is time to take stock of the situation and call it quits.
It is truly a shame that one man can wreak havoc on a community but, with the sympathy of BABS, who, rather than look out for me, looks out for him/them - so, bac79 and all of your iterations, including, possibly, the new aceman account, you win - I am vacating the board - have fun on here and I wish you all the best - you win.
and
Goodnight and good luck.
I do not have "a soft spot in my heart for that guy". I'm not willing, nor based on past precedent of many accounts and many discussions with the other moderators, able, to ban someone based on a vague suspicion that a new member is a sock puppet, without some evidence that proves it. You said in your trip thread where you were playing; I didn't know where you were until you mentioned it yesterday, a reply to Chauncey, I think. So whether you realized it at the time or not, you told people where you are.
I have banned B79 several times, and I will again if he shows back up. But each time I did, there was clear information it was him. At this time, there is none to indicate that lion457 is other than he says he is. Short of that, I am constrained from banning someone with no rules offense. And that's all it is.
Quote: rdw4potusThey're fun, so it's not exactly a stretch to think that someone who is new and wants to liveblog )
And he just happened to be in AC
last night, same as Ace. What a
coinkydink that is..
Quote: EvenBobAnd he just happened to be in AC
last night, same as Ace. What a
coinkydink that is..
Last night? The drive down was today, I think, for our new friend. At any rate. It's memorial day weekend. What part of that is a concidence? someone from NYC drove to AC? Someone driving to AC found this board?
I also was always a little concerned about your trip reports AoS. I was held up at gunpoint my second year of living in Vegas, and I know for a fact it was due to my own stupidity of putting out too much info (another site). Even tiny, little tidbits here and there.....there are wackos that will go through and gather all that info and use it to there benefit. The internet is full of them. You gotta be careful.
Other than that, I don't know what to say. Do what you have to do. Good luck to you going forward.
Quote: rdw4potusLast night? The drive down was today, I think, for our new friend. At any rate. It's memorial day weekend. What part of that is a concidence? someone from NYC drove to AC? Someone driving to AC found this board?
Go back and read rdw, he said he was there last night then left and was going back tonight and going to make a live trip report - of course, no such report was made
Quote: kewljI never really understood all that is going on with this feud and/or stalking, and I really don't want to. I don't really have time or interest in that kind of stuff.
I also was always a little concerned about your trip reports AoS. I was held up at gunpoint my second year of living in Vegas, and I know for a fact it was due to my own stupidity of putting out too much info (another site). Even tiny, little tidbits here and there.....there are wackos that will go through and gather all that info and use it to there benefit. The internet is full of them. You gotta be careful.
Other than that, I don't know what to say. Do what you have to do. Good luck to you going forward.
Thanks kewl - wishing you positive variance
Quote: beachbumbabsI do not have "a soft spot in my heart for that guy". I'm not willing, nor based on past precedent of many accounts and many discussions with the other moderators, able, to ban someone based on a vague suspicion that a new member is a sock puppet, without some evidence that proves it. You said in your trip thread where you were playing; I didn't know where you were until you mentioned it yesterday, a reply to Chauncey, I think. So whether you realized it at the time or not, you told people where you are.
I have banned B79 several times, and I will again if he shows back up. But each time I did, there was clear information it was him. At this time, there is none to indicate that lion457 is other than he says he is. Short of that, I am constrained from banning someone with no rules offense. And that's all it is.
I hope to not see you on the next "I sent a man on the Internet my life savings" episode of Dr. Phil
Quote: aceofspadesGo back and read rdw, he said he was there last night then left and was going back tonight and going to make a live trip report - of course, no such report was made
Yup. All just a big coincidence, I'm sure.
Quote: kewljI never really understood all that is going on with this feud and/or stalking, and I really don't want to. I don't really have time or interest in that kind of stuff.
I also was always a little concerned about your trip reports AoS. I was held up at gunpoint my second year of living in Vegas, and I know for a fact it was due to my own stupidity of putting out too much info (another site). Even tiny, little tidbits here and there.....there are wackos that will go through and gather all that info and use it to there benefit. The internet is full of them. You gotta be careful.
Other than that, I don't know what to say. Do what you have to do. Good luck to you going forward.
Never a feud at all (at least not from my end)
Quote: aceofspadesGo back and read rdw, he said he was there last night then left and was going back tonight and going to make a live trip report - of course, no such report was made
Just found this and you are obviously talking about me. Last night I quickly signed on and posted under a thread about big wins at blackjack or something like that. Oh my god, seriously.
The thread it was, how about some big hand bj stories.
That was shoddy cover and predictable. We all know You mustn't go straight for the prize. You should've zig zaged a few timesQuote: lion457Just found this and you are obviously talking about me. Last night I quickly signed on and posted under a thread about big wins at blackjack or something like that. Oh my god, seriously.
The thread it was, how about some big hand bj stories.
fortunately sometimes people are to anxious and compulsive. They can't hold back.
Quote: rdw4potusshould we take this as a resignation, complete with the required hiatus before reinstatement?
No. Not unless he makes a specific request to have his name in red. Things happen fast here and I wouldn't want to see him restricted from participating in issues related to this latest turn of events. The best way to leave is to simply stop posting.
I've tried to keep up with the Bac/ace thing but I'm puzzled. What did ace ever do to the guy? They befriended each other over the internet and made plans to meet. You know who didn't show. I don't think ace ever addressed his wild stories and I don't think he was involved in the baccarat bet.
If this is a case of stalking, I believe ace can take care of himself. He may already have all the guy's information from the day he was born. Face has stated that he is looking into this and has ace's back. Face's word has always been good. I'm not convinced that he's lion457 at this point. The style is different. All the information on ace is here for everyone to see, making him an easy target.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwC2QljLn4
Good luck, Ace. Whether or not the current member is "that guy" or not, the truth is "that guy" has been stalking you in a very strange way. The guy who befriended him is the one he attacks.
Please don't resign, I think he will fade away after time.
Quote: beachbumbabs
I have banned B79 several times, and I will again if he shows back up.
Ace:
Sorry to see it come to this. I hope you take a break and then reconsider. I also think you should cut BBB some slack. I believe she is doing a thankless job pretty well.
I will miss your trip reports, even if the last couple were a little depressing.
I had actually gone back and read a couple older ones for fun.
But I'm not stalking anyone ;-)
Quote: aceofspadesI surrender ...
I am vacating the board - have fun on here and I wish you all the best - you win.
Goodnight and good luck.
I highly suspect we'll see you again. This is at least the third time you given the 'I'm leaving' proclamation. In fact, after this most recent declaration, you made 10 additional posts.
As an aside, I've never understood why some members need to 'announce' their retirement?
Quote: aceofspadesIt is truly a shame that one man can wreak havoc on a community but, with the sympathy of BABS, who, rather than look out for me, looks out for him/them
I guess that's your opinion, but I'd like to see factual evidence that Bac79 has "the sympathy of BABS".
My bigger issue here is that you appear to show a trend of blaming others for your issues. Take this as an example, you point the finger at BBB for the havoc B79 is creating, yet the amount of personal information you share here, while they do make the trip reports more interesting, also make it easy enough for someone with an 8th grade education and any computer literacy to stalk you if they so desire.
Your unfortunate downswings in cards follow the same trend. Off the top of my head, I recall you placing blame, or at least getting angry about:
1) The dealer burning an Ace
2) A player entering mid-shoe
3) A player "taking the bust card"
4) The woman in red
5) The dealer and floor supervisors to the point of getting so angry at them that security gets involved
Although it's difficult to really know anybody from internet chat, I think you're probably a decent guy. I think some of the recent misfortune has changed you to some degree, hopefully just temporarily.
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Quote: MidwestAP
According the the National Council on Problem Gambling, problem gambling "includes all gambling behavior patterns that compromise, disrupt or damage personal, family or vocational pursuits. The essential features are increasing preoccupation with gambling, a need to bet more money more frequently, restlessness or irritability when attempting to stop, “chasing” losses, and loss of control manifested by continuation of the gambling behavior in spite of mounting, serious, negative consequences ..."
Now I may be way off base here, and I hope I am, but when you get real with yourself, do you feel to any degree this describes you? Again, I may be way off base, but if this has become a problem in you life, it's a much bigger deal than anything Bac79 and his aliases are up to.
This seems out of line to me. :( MidwestAP, do you really want to suggest that someone has a gambling problem? Is that something you are qualified to do? Do you have all the evidence and know all the facts? And most importantly, is that something you even want to get into, judging another person from a far (over the internet), like that?
Quote: kewljThis seems out of line to me. :( MidwestAP, do you really want to suggest that someone has a gambling problem? Is that something you are qualified to do? Do you have all the evidence and know all the facts? And most importantly, is that something you even want to get into, judging another person from a far (over the internet), like that?
I'm not trying to diagnose anybody, I'm not a health professional. I've had friends and acquaintances who have dealt with this issue so it's not totally unfamiliar to me.
Like I stated, I could be totally off base, and if I am, then hopefully no harm, no foul.
But, I can't stand on the sidelines, while many other encourage AOS to continue on, IF there may be a problem. I hope others would do the same for me too.
And even if there isn't an issue in this case, if there is anybody else who may have an issue, (which I'd be surprised if there are not, given the subject matter of this forum), then consider the message for the wider audience.
6) No mention of spreads or cut card placement or other game conditions.Quote: MidwestAP1) The dealer burning an Ace
2) A player entering mid-shoe
3) A player "taking the bust card"
4) The woman in red
5) The dealer and floor supervisors to the point of getting so angry at them that security gets involved
7) Leaving mid-shoe after a few losing hands.
8) Obsession with streaks of various types.
9) Selective memory.
10) No desire to improve his game.
Quote: MidwestAP
1) The dealer burning an Ace
2) A player entering mid-shoe
3) A player "taking the bust card"
4) The woman in red
5) The dealer and floor supervisors to the point of getting so angry at them that security gets involved
Quote: teliot6) No mention of spreads or cut card placement or other game conditions.
7) Leaving mid-shoe after a few losing hands.
8) Obsession with streaks of various types.
9) Selective memory.
10) No desire to improve his game.
I don't think this is the place to play psychiatrist. You are actually making these suggestions about a person who is identifiable outside of the board by information contained on the board--is that what you want to do?
Quote: MidwestAPI'm not trying to diagnose anybody, I'm not a health professional. I've had friends and acquaintances who have dealt with this issue so it's not totally unfamiliar to me.
Like I stated, I could be totally off base, and if I am, then hopefully no harm, no foul.
But, I can't stand on the sidelines, while many other encourage AOS to continue on, IF there may be a problem. I hope others would do the same for me too.
And even if there isn't an issue in this case, if there is anybody else who may have an issue, (which I'd be surprised if there are not, given the subject matter of this forum), then consider the message for the wider audience.
Perhaps better addressed personally with an individual OR in a general thread unrelated to one particular person.
Quote: RonCI don't think this is the place to play psychiatrist. You are actually making these suggestions about a person who is identifiable outside of the board by information contained on the board--is that what you want to do?
I'm with RonC. Maybe intentions are good, but this is all still out of line. This IS a gambling forum! People come here to talk about their gambling experiences. They have that right, we all have that right without someone suggesting they are an addict.
I mean, maybe if a guy posts that he lost his job because he has missed too much time playing roulette, or he is moving out of his apartment and into his car so he has more money to devote to slot machine play. But short of that, it's strangers on the internet. Should you really anoint yourself qualified to diagnose them from a far, without all the fact and is that really your place?
Furthermore, I don't see any evidence of red flags in this particular case. You are talking about a single man, no family, who makes a good living as an attorney, who likes to spend some of his free time taking gambling trips. It's still a semi-free country and people have a right to do as they please.
Quote: RonCI don't think this is the place to play psychiatrist. You are actually making these suggestions about a person who is identifiable outside of the board by information contained on the board--is that what you want to do?
You're probably right, but on the other hand if anyone gives a list of symptoms of anything, most people will chime in when they hear familiar things with which they are familiar. Sounds like Ebola.
I don't see how anything I posted had anything to do with commenting on the issue of addiction. I was just pointing out additional ways that AoS showed that he was not a skilled player, which inevitably will lead to losses of the very type he experienced.Quote: kewljYa know it is so weird for me to be in agreement with RonC. We are using 'butting heads' in one of the political threads. Being in agreement with him, makes me wonder if I am on the wrong side. Lol.
Come to think of it, said stalker could be some beat up member of the hoa, lol, or some poor sap paying beaucoup alimony because of their X's more than competent legal counsel?
I don't see triple B as defending any particular member, but representing the forum. I think she is doing an excellent albeit mostly thankless job. She may well want to spank a few members but has great restraint. Can you imagine Mickey with a ban hammer and a buzz on? : ) Or, even Mister Face or Mission without the gloves on? The member corpses would be PHD.
If disgruntled, over testosterone'd members run her out of here with derision or bullying, this place will smell like a locker room after high school football practice. I like you guys, but sometimes the pheromones are enough to make my eyes water.
Like Aaron Rodgers says; R-E-L-A-X, CTFO. Take a Colorado, Washington, or Alaska vacation if you need to.
Simon and Garfunkel "Feeling Groovy", you owe it to yourself; https://youtu.be/nEEy4DA21PA
Quote: kewljYa know it is so weird for me to be in agreement with RonC. We are using 'butting heads' in one of the political threads. Being in agreement with him, makes me wonder if I am on the wrong side. Lol.
I have a lot of respect for both kewlj and RonC. I'll delete my post.
Quote: MidwestAPI have a lot of respect for both kewlj and RonC. I'll delete my post.
You do what you want. I am not trying to censor or influence anyone. It just seems weird that on a gambling site, someone is suggesting that someone else may have a gambling problem. :/
I have no training or certifications, however I think I can tell when someone has a gambling problem.Quote: kewljThis seems out of line to me. :( MidwestAP, do you really want to suggest that someone has a gambling problem? Is that something you are qualified to do?
I'm not saying AOS has a gambling problem perhaps it's just an expensive hobby. However it's easy for someone reading his TR''s to come to an addiction conclusion. Since He gambles frequently(Its unknown if he actually has an advantage) he gets upset, bangs tables, gets fresh with employees, he seems to be chasing losses frequently, I believe he sometimes plays and spends more than he originally plans on, he frequently thinks about gambling.
The question is, if he does have a problem how bad is it? Is it a significant problem or a minor issue? His wins and losses may only seem like a lot to someone, but insignificant to him and others.
As long as its not messaging up his life and it's not on his mind 24/7 I'm sure he will be ok. My guess is he's happy and he's got his life under control.
Perhaps we should just ask him if he thinks he has an issue with gambling.
Leave quietly. Say your goodbyes to those that you respect. If you are missed, people will ask. If they don't, it never really was what you thought.
if not somewhat famous, divorce attorney.
Ever see him on CNBC or FOX? He's the
go-to guy in NYC when a divorce is in the
news. He has no ex wives or kids to support.
What he does is his business, find another
back fence to gossip over.
Quote: thecesspitMaybe, but I think a private message is the way forward. Creating this much drama feeds the drama llamas.
If the drama is officially started with a small post suggesting a gambling problem, I may hang around and see what happens. Almost made me laugh, thecesspit, 'cause I thought the drama horse has been out of the gate and racing around the track already.
