We should allow Buzzard back!!!!
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Quote: AceCrAAckersI like Buzzard. Bring him back. We miss you pal.
He's certainly not a bad person and some here think he had "value". He's on the DT site under a couple of names. The name buzzard is in red but buzzardknot is not. Same guy.
The problem here is that he was very disrespectful to Zuga, the real boss, and to members of his staff. Zuga exhibited extreme patience and fairness with Buzzard giving him numerous chances to stop what he was doing but he wouldn't hear of it. Zuga had no choice and reluctantly banned him. The real boss has spoken.
I don't know why some think it is cute that he keeps coming back here. Those are not the actions of someone who respects the rules.
Quote: 1BBHe's certainly not a bad person and some here think he had "value".
I'm not one of them.
Quote: HowManyI'm not one of them.
Ha ha. Yeah, I think there were two.
Quote: HowManyI'm not one of them.
I agree, all he ever did was talk about his damn att job. Nothing of value was lost.
Quote: EvenBobThere's a 75 year age limit here, he's out..
How much longer do we gotta wait for you? :)
Put them together, and half the time I didn't know what the F--- he was talking about.
He was an interesting character to hang around with in person, but I do not miss him here.
Quote: RonCHe is getting preferential treatment by being allowed on DT--just go visit him there if you miss him.
I''m afraid we bore him over there
Quote: buzzardknot dataJoin Date: March 16, 2015
Last Visit: March 22, 2015
Maybe this is 'no country for old men' over here - sad.
Quote: RSHow much longer do we gotta wait for you? :)
It'll be 80 by then..
Gosh, that's close. I JUST DON'T KNOW !
Quote: JohnnyQ13 - 3.
Gosh, that's close. I JUST DON'T KNOW !
Lol
Quote: GWAEI agree, all he ever did was talk about his damn att job. Nothing of value was lost.
Don't forget. He once played a $10 game of pool with only $5 dollars in his pocket!
No Offense, Buz.....
They should all start a forum together called wizards rejects com. BTW it's available, it's kind of catchy.Quote: JohnnyQAnd that he was put banned about a zillion times. A 2nd chance is nice, and a 3rd chance is also nice, but c'mon now.....
No Offense, Buz.....
This site's new ownership banned Buzzard. In my opinion, he should not be welcomed, thanked, wished a happy day or anything else by the "greenies" on this forum because that is in conflict with the action of ownership. My opinion does not matter, of course...but I can still have it!
Quote: WizardBringing back nuked members would set an awful precedent. His nuking was very justified. If anyone misses Buzz he can be found at DT once in a while.
"Problem" solved.
Quote: EvenBobThere's a 75 year age limit here, he's out..
There's also a 75 IQ floor here. You're out.
Quote: indignant99There's also a 75 IQ floor here. You're out.
Nah, I think you'll be the one that is out...
He can be found here as well, you just don't always know who he is.Quote: WizardBringing back nuked members would set an awful precedent. His nuking was very justified. If anyone misses Buzz he can be found at DT once in a while.
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Just a though.
People like Buzz and that's great, he's a likable guy, I like him as well, but Wishing him happy birthday or whatever is making light of the situation. Especially while he's blatantly breaking the rules on the forum, it is just encouraging others to follow suit. It's making it seem like making multiple accounts and sockpuppetting is ok when it should be frowned upon(public caneing anyone ? ). It's disrespectful to people who respect and follow the rules.
Personally don't care how many aliases he uses, because he's not using them for sinister reasons. I wish he could hash it out with Z and come back.
Unfortunately we have twisted people like Baccaratform79 tainting the forum.
I 100% agree. This would make them less likely to come back. Especially the people who just want attention or want to say disruptive stuff.Quote: RonCI think ALL posts from members who are nuked and then "reappear" with alternate identities should be deleted.
Quote: indignant99There's also a 75 IQ floor here. You're out.
Quote: RonCNah, I think you'll be the one that is out...
Personal insult. As a third offense -- 14 days.
Quote: WizardPersonal insult. As a third offense -- 14 days.
I took RonC's comment to mean that the mention of a 75 IQ could be construed as an insult and could be cause for suspension. "The one that is out" simply means a possible suspension. I may be all wet, it wouldn't be the first time, but I see no insult coming from RonC. As far as the IQ comment from indignant99, that was certainly a joke and a funny one at that. I wouldn't be insulted if it were said to me and I doubt anyone else would.
In any event, I'm pretty sure that this is Ron's second offense not his third. I clearly remember him getting 7 days for his first offense of offering his opinion on the suspension list. Many thought that was harsh at the time given his longevity and his impeccable posting record. Hope this helps.
Quote: 1BBI took RonC's comment to mean that the mention of a 75 IQ could be construed as an insult and could be cause for suspension. "The one that is out" simply means a possible suspension. I may be all wet, it wouldn't be the first time, but I see no insult coming from RonC. As far as the IQ comment from indignant99, that was certainly a joke and a funny one at that. I wouldn't be insulted if it were said to me and I doubt anyone else would.
In any event, I'm pretty sure that this is Ron's second offense not his third. I clearly remember him getting 7 days for his first offense of offering his opinion on the suspension list. Many thought that was harsh at the time given his longevity and his impeccable posting record. Hope this helps.
oh crap I am agreeing with 1BB on a suspension. RonC was not saying that someone has a 75 IQ, he was saying that indignant99 just made an insult to EB so he will be the one that is out.
I have a feeling indigent99 complained. I can't imagine The Wizard would be going after someone for that unless someone narked.Quote: 1BBI took RonC's comment to mean that the mention of a 75 IQ could be construed as an insult and could be cause for suspension. "The one that is out" simply means a possible suspension. I may be all wet, it wouldn't be the first time, but I see no insult coming from RonC. As far as the IQ comment from indignant99, that was certainly a joke and a funny one at that. I wouldn't be insulted if it were said to me and I doubt anyone else would.
In any event, I'm pretty sure that this is Ron's second offense not his third. I clearly remember him getting 7 days for his first offense of offering his opinion on the suspension list. Many thought that was harsh at the time given his longevity and his impeccable posting record. Hope this helps.
Quote: GWAEoh crap I am agreeing with 1BB on a suspension. RonC was not saying that someone has a 75 IQ, he was saying that indignant99 just made an insult to EB so he will be the one that is out.
Careful there. I hear that the last person who agreed with me was struck by lightning and there wasn't a cloud in the sky. :-)
Quote: AxelWolfI have a feeling indigent99 complained. I can't imagine The Wizard would be going after someone for that unless someone narked.
What could he complain about? He was the one that insulted EB. RonC was predicting a suspension on indigent99. Neither comment is worthy of a suspension IMO.
Quote: 10DollarBriWhat could he complain about? He was the one that insulted EB. RonC was predicting a suspension on indigent99.
Yep, I think the Wiz read that series of posts too quickly. I think RonC will be (rightly) reinstated when the dust settles, and Indignant99 may have to take a break from the site for a few days.
Quote: JohnnyQYep, I think the Wiz read that series of posts too quickly. I think RonC will be (rightly) reinstated when the dust settles, and Indignant99 may have to take a break from the site for a few days.
I hope. RonC insulted no one. If anything he played "Captain Obvious". And what indignant99 said may be the worst insult I've heard thrown at Bob in quite awhile. And indignant's name is still active...lol
Quote: 1BBI took RonC's comment to mean that the mention of a 75 IQ could be construed as an insult and could be cause for suspension. "The one that is out" simply means a possible suspension. I may be all wet, it wouldn't be the first time, but I see no insult coming from RonC. As far as the IQ comment from indignant99, that was certainly a joke and a funny one at that. I wouldn't be insulted if it were said to me and I doubt anyone else would.
Here is the conversation:
EvenBob: There's a 75 year age limit here, he's out..
indignant99: There's also a 75 IQ floor here. You're out.
RonC (Quoting indignant99): Nah, I think you'll be the one that is out...
I interpreted RonC's comment to mean that indignant99 would be out if there were a 75 IQ requirement. indignant99's comment I had no problem with. In fact it was a compliment to everybody for having an IQ of at least 75.
However, I'll see the counsel of the other admins for their interpretation.
Quote:In any event, I'm pretty sure that this is Ron's second offense not his third. I clearly remember him getting 7 days for his first offense of offering his opinion on the suspension list. Many thought that was harsh at the time given his longevity and his impeccable posting record. Hope this helps.
Good point. I guess I incorrectly thought he had two since the second was for seven days. I'll also revisit the duration.
Consider his suspension officially on appeal.
Quote: WizardHere is the conversation:
EvenBob: There's a 75 year age limit here, he's out..
indignant99: There's also a 75 IQ floor here. You're out.
RonC (Quoting indignant99): Nah, I think you'll be the one that is out...
I interpreted RonC's comment to mean that indignant99 would be out if there were a 75 IQ requirement. indignant99's comment I had no problem with. In fact it was a compliment to everybody for having an IQ of at least 75.
However, I'll see the counsel of the other admins for their interpretation.
Good point. I guess I incorrectly thought he had two since the second was for seven days. I'll also revisit the duration.
Consider his suspension officially on appeal.
I'm pretty sure RonC was saying that indignant99 is going to be out, as in suspended, for his IQ insult. RonC was not insulting anyone.
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Quote: WizardHere is the conversation:
EvenBob: There's a 75 year age limit here, he's out..
indignant99: There's also a 75 IQ floor here. You're out.
RonC (Quoting indignant99): Nah, I think you'll be the one that is out...
I interpreted RonC's comment to mean that indignant99 would be out if there were a 75 IQ requirement. indignant99's comment I had no problem with. In fact it was a compliment to everybody for having an IQ of at least 75.
However, I'll see the counsel of the other admins for their interpretation.
Good point. I guess I incorrectly thought he had two since the second was for seven days. I'll also revisit the duration.
Consider his suspension officially on appeal.
He says there is a 75 IQ floor, then says EB is out. That is inferring that EB does not meet the required floor of 75. Isn't that an insult to him for saying he is below a 75?
Mental retardation is considered 70 and below and if he is saying EB is below 75 then he is basically calling him a retard.
Quote: Zcore13I'm pretty sure RonC was saying that indignant99 is going to be out, as in suspended, for his IQ insult. RonC was not insulting anyone.ZCore13
Yup, that's what I thought also.
But I understand why he'll never be allowed back here. You can't beat up one of the owners and expect to be allowed to play in his playground anymore.
I thought he added more value than many here, including me. But I don't expect to see him posting here again. I hope he enjoys DT and I might check it out again some day. If so, I hope to see him.
For now I'll just enjoy when he posts up under one of many aliases.
+1 for the reversalQuote: WizardHere is the conversation:
EvenBob: There's a 75 year age limit here, he's out..
indignant99: There's also a 75 IQ floor here. You're out.
RonC (Quoting indignant99): Nah, I think you'll be the one that is out...
I interpreted RonC's comment to mean that indignant99 would be out if there were a 75 IQ requirement. indignant99's comment I had no problem with. In fact it was a compliment to everybody for having an IQ of at least 75.
However, I'll see the counsel of the other admins for their interpretation.
Good point. I guess I incorrectly thought he had two since the second was for seven days. I'll also revisit the duration.
Consider his suspension officially on appeal.
Hopefully ill get my suspension credit that was earned dealing with B79.
Quote: 1BBIs Buzz really gone? It doesn't seem so. He starts threads anytime he pleases and members engage him in conversation. In yet another thread started yesterday under the name ismynameinredeye, two administrators responded to him. One even wished him a happy birthday. No wonder he keeps coming back. Of course they weren't the ones who banned him. I say treat him like all other spammers and wipe out his posts. Buzz can be reached on DT. Zuga banned him here. That should be respected and certainly not mocked.
I have mostly given up responding to the drip of your poisonous posts, because most of the rest of the forum regulars recognize it now when they see it, but this one needs correction. I was not, and it does not, mock Zuga to wish Buzzard a happy 75th birthday. Zuga himself looked for any way of dealing with Buzz's anger short of a ban, but that was simply not possible, so it is what it is.
Wishing him a happy birthday did not stop me from banning him once again. I did not and do not disagree with Zuga's decision to ban him; I agreed with it then and still do, and it has been me, most often by far, banning him each time he pops back up, whether he or you knows it or not. As long as the forum does not autoban by IP, that will have to continue.
You are conflating the need to ban him with trying to dictate whether people can still find amusement or be friends with people who have been banned. I disagree not only with your opinion on who I should consider a friend but that you should be allowed to continue to ascribe motives to me or other people for our actions, not just in this, but in many of your strawman arguments (claiming you speak for "some" who act in ways that, to you, have ulterior meanings or nefarious purpose), or in your vague but insidious accusations in drawing comparisons between unrelated discussions and how this board is moderated.
The Wizard previously invited you to leave if you do not like how this board is run or moderated. Let me add my invitation to that.
Quote: beachbumbabsI have mostly given up responding to the drip of your poisonous posts, because most of the rest of the forum regulars recognize it now when they see it, but this one needs correction. I was not, and it does not, mock Zuga to wish Buzzard a happy 75th birthday. Zuga himself looked for any way of dealing with Buzz's anger short of a ban, but that was simply not possible, so it is what it is.
Wishing him a happy birthday did not stop me from banning him once again. I did not and do not disagree with Zuga's decision to ban him; I agreed with it then and still do, and it has been me, most often by far, banning him each time he pops back up, whether he or you knows it or not. As long as the forum does not autoban by IP, that will have to continue.
You are conflating the need to ban him with trying to dictate whether people can still find amusement or be friends with people who have been banned. I disagree not only with your opinion on who I should consider a friend but that you should be allowed to continue to ascribe motives to me or other people for our actions, not just in this, but in many of your strawman arguments (claiming you speak for "some" who act in ways that, to you, have ulterior meanings or nefarious purpose), or in your vague but insidious accusations in drawing comparisons between unrelated discussions and how this board is moderated.
The Wizard previously invited you to leave if you do not like how this board is run or moderated. Let me add my invitation to that.
It seems like the last several days have been trying, Barbara, with the spoofing and dealing with the dupe IDs of friends so I'm over the moon that you found the time to respond to my post. In fact there is a newly joined member posting right now who needs to be dealt with. Another friend no doubt.
Let's try to see what has upset you this time. I'll break it down for the "most of the forum regulars" that you speak for.
I said:
"He starts a thread anytime he pleases and members engage him in conversation. - Fact.
"In yet another thread started yesterday under the name ismynameinredeye, two administrators responded to him". - Fact.
"One even wished him a happy birthday".- Fact.
"No wonder he keeps coming back".- My opinion.
"Of course they weren't the ones who banned him" - Fact.
"I say treat him like all other spammers and wipe out his posts. - My opinion.
"Buzz can be reached on DT"- Fact.
"Zuga banned him here". - Fact.
"That should be respected and certainly not mocked". - My opinion.
Unless Kim Jong Un has taken over the forum, I believe I am still entitled to my opinions.
What about your remarks?
"Poisonous posts". - Personal insult.
"Insidious accusations". - Personal insult.
Please don't suspend yourself on my account. It would be your second offense and I don't want the forum to lose you for 7 days. As many know, I never want anyone to be suspended for insulting me.
I never told or suggested to anyone that they should not be friends with banned members. I just don't think administrators should respond to them as they discredit this forum while breaking rule after rule. That's my opinion. At least two other members posted the same thoughts in this thread but I'm the only one you responded to. Perhaps I should relay the message to them.
I'd like to take this time to remind all of our members of something that is taught to children before they even use a computer. Don't give out personal information to anyone on an anonymous forum, chat site or social site. If you do and you get spoofed or worse, don't blame anyone but yourself.
I recall the Wizard saying something about those not liking things could leave but I don't recall him extending me a personal invitation to do so. Your invitation to me to leave is duly noted and respectfully declined. My opinions are mine and no one, especially an administrator, should suggest that I or anyone else leave because of our opinions or beliefs.
