How did we associate the Easter bunny w/the Death of Jesus?
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Thx for your sacrifice Jesus.
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There used to be a god of spring, and the bunny was sort of like Santa, what with the bringing of treats and stuff. So when the church was busy taking over the world, the bunny, like many (most?) other traits of the church was taken, absorbed, and used as its own.
Ever played Katamari Damacy? Same thing, basically.
Check it – Easter Sunday is always the first Sunday after the first full moon of spring.
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Ever played Katamari Damacy? Same thing, basically.
I don't understand this game but it was pretty damn fun when I played it. I don't understand a lot of what my people are doing or thinking half the time. Ever watch a Japanese game show? That's what I'm talking about.
Just found a good example
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Easter is in spring because it is a time of renewal and goes together.
We give eggs on Easter because egg production naturally goes up in spring. Same as how we have fall vegetables on Thanksgiving.
As a guess, chocolate used to be a thing of prosperity and used for celebration.
How a rabbit comes into play perhaps someone else knows.
Quote: AZDuffmanEaster is not about the death of Jesus but the Resurrection. Christianity does not "celebrate" the death of Jesus. It mourns it. A Catholic Church is a very somber place on Good Friday. It is the only day of the year you do not genuflect to the tabernacle as it is emptied at the Holy Thursday service and the Crucifix will be covered up. For logistics I do not think they cover it during the service itself, however. As always, I invite the Padre to correct me if I have any of this incorrect.
Easter is in spring because it is a time of renewal and goes together.
We give eggs on Easter because egg production naturally goes up in spring. Same as how we have fall vegetables on Thanksgiving.
As a guess, chocolate used to be a thing of prosperity and used for celebration.
How a rabbit comes into play perhaps someone else knows.
And the non-Christian explanation, for parity...
Easter comes from the Teutonic goddess "Eastre" (or Esther, or something), who was the goddess of spring. It was said that her sigul was the hare, or that she was often followed by hares, but that is largely supposition. In any case, whether or not it was believed during that time, it has certainly come into belief and did so around the 18th century. Hence, "Easter bunny".
As she was the goddess of spring, a celebration ensued on the spring equinox, hence the date.
Eggs are a sign of fertility, and as spring is the season of renewal, they went hand in hand.
And the church, as it was wont to do, assimilated the traditions of the pagan beliefs as it took over neighboring and/or competing religions. Christian Easter, as AZD said, is about Christ, beginning with Good Friday (the commemoration of crucifixion) and ending with Easter Sunday (Christ's resurrection). All the rabbit stuff and the eggs and the gifts and all that malarkey are carry overs from old, Teutonic, polytheistic beliefs.
Go ask Donnie Darko.
Quote: AZDuffmanA Catholic Church is a very somber place on Good Friday. It is the only day of the year you do not genuflect to the tabernacle as it is emptied at the Holy Thursday service and the Crucifix will be covered up. For logistics I do not think they cover it during the service itself, however. As always, I invite the Padre to correct me if I have any of this incorrect.
I'm not a priest, but you surely have two different services commingled. Holy Thursday and Good Friday are, among other things, different days.
IT TEACHES THEM THAT IT IS OK TO LIE.
There is no Santa, no Easter bunny, but we tell our kids there is and go to great lengths to perpetuate the fraud.
Sooner or later they wise up, and then: they've learned it's OK to lie.
"Heck, everybody does it,"they think, "So I guess I will too."
Stick to the truth, people.
Quote: gigjonesThat’s correct. Easter is heavily dependent upon spring. That’s why Easter Sunday is on a different date each year.
Check it – Easter Sunday is always the first Sunday after the first full moon of spring.
Doesn't that more to do with the fact that Easter is supposed to take place at about the same time as Passover (the Last Supper took place during Passover), which, like all Jewish holidays, is based on the Jewish "lunar calendar" where months begin on new moons?
The Catholic Church perpetrated their heinous deception (theft of an existing holiday) to make their fiction more readily palatable / adoptable by the hordes of pagans.
Quote: rdw4potusI'm not a priest, but you surely have two different services commingled. Holy Thursday and Good Friday are, among other things, different days.
Correct, and I tried to get that across. On Holy Thursday the do the washing of feet and "strip the altar" as it commemorates the betrayal. Good Friday represents the carrying of the cross and death. 12:00-3:00 local time always was the time Jesus was dying on the cross and when I was a kid you were supposed to either go to the service (which was a little shorter than those 3 hours) or at the least turn your TV and radios off. When my dad was a kid he said all the small shops would be closed those hours.
Same thing with eggs; another symbol of fertility and replenishable food.
Both things combine with spring as a time of growth and renewal, time of fresh food in plenty for the next 6 months. Northern European cultures of various origin celebrated spring's arrival as an end to deprivation and deadly environmental conditions.
Christianity followed these practices by hundreds if not a thousand years or more. A deliberate calendar overlay by the early church to substitute Christian traditions and rites for pagan celebrations, in the same time frame as illiterate peasants and folk were expecting to party during their year mostly filled with work. It is not unimportant in cultural history that only in the last couple hundred years have general populations been encouraged to be educated, literate, and math-savvy. Before that, the priests and gentry took open advantage of their privileged educations.
Doesn't mean Easter week events didn't happen in spring, but the agrarian calendar was guided more by lunar cycles than actual dates. Easter reflects that by the way the date changes.
Telling the story without judging it for those who don't follow the religion: Maundy Thursday (tomorrow) was the Last Supper, Christ providing a way to continue to share Himself after He was gone (God had already told him these events would happen, so he was trying to prepare the others) (the body and the blood represented by bread and wine part of most modern services) with His followers (12 Apostles), followed by His betrayal that night (the Apostle Judas) in the Garden at Gethsemane, then trial overseen by Herod (King of Judea), prosecutors the Pharisees (Jewish priests) for heresy, Pontius Pilate (regional administrator) declining to commute his sentence after having him flogged did not satisfy the mob, and crucifixion all on Good Friday, which involved Him dragging the cross from town up to the hill (Calvary), where he was nailed to it, then it was set upright into the ground. He was left to suffocate from the constriction of the position on his diaphragm and lungs, but also stabbed in the side by a Roman soldier.
After His death on the cross, he was washed, wrapped in a shroud, and laid in a tomb Friday night, and a boulder rolled in front of the tomb. Sunday morning, He was found alive and well, with the boulder rolled back, though still with holes in His hands and feet where He was nailed and in His side where He was stabbed. It was considered the miracle of miracles, and He continued to preach until He ascended 40 days later, bodily taken to heaven.
Quote: MrVWe should immediately shelve and never bring out Santa and the Easter bunny: continued proliferation is damaging to our children.
IT TEACHES THEM THAT IT IS OK TO LIE.
There is no Santa, no Easter bunny, but we tell our kids there is and go to great lengths to perpetuate the fraud.
Sooner or later they wise up, and then: they've learned it's OK to lie.
"Heck, everybody does it,"they think, "So I guess I will too."
Stick to the truth, people.
Oops. There goes religion too then...
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Quote: MrVWe should immediately shelve and never bring out Santa and the Easter bunny: continued proliferation is damaging to our children.
IT TEACHES THEM THAT IT IS OK TO LIE.
There is no Santa, no Easter bunny, but we tell our kids there is and go to great lengths to perpetuate the fraud.
Sooner or later they wise up, and then: they've learned it's OK to lie.
"Heck, everybody does it,"they think, "So I guess I will too."
Stick to the truth, people.
Quote: Zcore13Oops. There goes religion too then...
ZCore13
There goes Poker as well.:) At least the children's version: Old Maid (AKA Donkey).
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After His death on the cross, he was washed, wrapped in a shroud, and laid in a tomb Friday night, and a boulder rolled in front of the tomb. Sunday morning, He was found alive and well, with the boulder rolled back, though still with holes in His hands and feet where He was nailed and in His side where He was stabbed. It was considered the miracle of miracles, and He continued to preach until He ascended 40 days later, bodily taken to heaven.
As an addendum, this is normal for those of the Jewish faith. You are supposed to be buried by sundown the day you die if at all possible. As a second note, he was tied and nailed to the cross both. Most people were just tied from what I was taught. If he was only nailed through the hands his body weight would have ripped them apart.
Stay tuned for the re-enactors from the Philippines on Friday. Now those guys are devout!
Quote: MrVIT TEACHES THEM THAT IT IS OK TO LIE.
Good grief. You pretend to live in such a simple world by such simple rules, but I think you know better.
The "baloney" teaches us so much more than could any simplistic world left to human design. At least to do something individually decent in life rather than fritter it away by proving that nothing is worthy of belief beyond ourselves.
Add on: I figure that the best anyone can do is only to understand how things don't work out. Can't fix anything, not really. It's like realizing that the numbers must work or even out, so that every one's lives must follow suit in some fashion. To that end, why not do the world with the most-crazy extremes, and other functionality? "The whole nine yards." So far as the whole thing is "hidden" from view. This ties into also the notion of observing something without changing it or yourself in some way and extent at the same time. The way to do this is to let or realize the universe to spew itself out to its fullest possible extent and however. If you can't prove the something worthy, as doing you're best to find the right life anyway, then the failure shall serve as proof the other way.
