Tipping Inside Casinos (always an interesting subject).
September 5th, 2010 at 1:15:09 PM
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Quote: mrjjjI never tip. I did not FORCE that person to take a tipping job,thats not my problem if they RELY on tips.
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My tipping in other areas are pretty good. Haircut, waitress, bartender, I tip rather well.
I think it's unfortunate that certain members of the service industry are often under-appreciated with respect to others. I'd wager that a craps dealer's job is, in most cases, more complicated than any of the others you listed. Anyone who's both dealt and tended bar want to chime in? I'd be interested in actual experiences.
I played a few sessions of dice yesterday. My total loss was around $30, just about break-even. My total dealer bets + hand-ins were about $10. I tip regardless of whether I win or lose, because my results have nothing to do with the service I get.
But as another poster said, the dealer is not the casino. The dealer is the casino's customer service representative, and you are the customer. If you receive excellent service, it is customary (but by no means required) to tip. I received excellent service yesterday, so I tipped.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
September 5th, 2010 at 1:27:35 PM
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Those same 'under-appreciated' people have free will to seek employment elsewhere. It is a WAR walking into the casino, its not my responsibility to keep their lights on at home. Its all about me. Ken
September 5th, 2010 at 3:22:33 PM
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Quote: mrjjjComps (sometimes, not always) are just another sucker way to get you to RETURN back to the casino.
once you play at a certain casino you never go back?
September 5th, 2010 at 3:46:22 PM
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Quote: mrjjj[...]I dont need a comp card....I get nothing of any value out if it.
Huh. Let's do some math:
Scenario 1:
You lose $100 and have no players card. Then you go to the buffet and spend, say, $15 on dinner. You are now down $115.
Scenario 2:
You lose $100 and have a players card. You ask for a comp and get one greater than $0, maybe even the whole $15. Then go to that same buffet. You are now down less than $115.
Nothing of value, eh?
September 5th, 2010 at 7:22:31 PM
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"once you play at a certain casino you never go back?" >>> I'm looking at it from the opposite view. How many will GO BACK because of a comp? Let me ask the other question a bit different. Can anyone name me the negatives to having a comp card? We'll see who here is honest and/or educated. Ken
September 5th, 2010 at 7:31:55 PM
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Mrjjj,
Even though you're playing for small stakes, you should still use a players card so that you can get the greatest return on your initial investment.
-Keyser
Even though you're playing for small stakes, you should still use a players card so that you can get the greatest return on your initial investment.
-Keyser
September 5th, 2010 at 7:36:30 PM
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Can you think of any negatives to using one? Ken
September 5th, 2010 at 8:07:08 PM
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Quote: mrjjjCan you think of any negatives to using one? Ken
I don't use one in roulette because they don't give you squat for points. Its pathetic, why bother.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 5th, 2010 at 8:10:24 PM
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Actually, roulette provides a great deal of comps.
Like I've said, if you want the best return on your money, then use the players card.
Like I've said, if you want the best return on your money, then use the players card.
September 5th, 2010 at 8:16:04 PM
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The reply that Ken expected, is that if you are making money hand over fist playing roulette, using the greatest system in the world, the casino will have a method of tracking all your wins, and after a period of time will bar you for all the money you have won! Happens all the time, so refuse all players cards please!
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September 5th, 2010 at 8:29:09 PM
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Quote: KeyserActually, roulette provides a great deal of comps.
Like I've said, if you want the best return on your money, then use the players card.
Not the places I play. They never gave me anything, not even a lousy buffet. So I quit using the card, why bother.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 5th, 2010 at 9:45:06 PM
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if you don't understand why you should tip at a craps table then you shouldn't be at one.
September 5th, 2010 at 9:55:43 PM
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Quote: EvenBobNot the places I play. They never gave me anything, not even a lousy buffet. So I quit using the card, why bother.
I think the last time I used a card a few years ago, I played six different 2 hour sessions and asked if I could have a buffet. They said no, but they would give me $10 towards the $25 price. I told them to keep it and keep the card too. Now when they ask for it, I say 'start paying more in comps and I'll use it'. They never say anything.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
September 6th, 2010 at 6:19:39 AM
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Quote: mrjjj"once you play at a certain casino you never go back?" >>> I'm looking at it from the opposite view. How many will GO BACK because of a comp?
so, if YOU get a players card, you won't be able to control yourself? or , you don't get a players card because others won't be able to control themselves and you want to "protest" the cards?
September 6th, 2010 at 6:31:49 AM
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Only 212 more posts to match the "hoax" thread.
Now 211.
Now 211.
A falling knife has no handle.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:54:03 AM
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Quote: MoscaOnly 212 more posts to match the "hoax" thread.
Now 211.
LOL...210.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:51:45 AM
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Maybe this should be in more detail. Why? Not all situations are the same. I only have one casino here in town. My casino here is CRAP for giving out comps, anything of value. Then there are the tourists, visiting LV (or AC). Lets say they are there alot. Ok, maybe they should use a card. Then we have the people that LIVE in or near LV/AC. I'm sure there situation might also be different. I'll tell ya. I dont like using one because of the privacy issue BUT there is an opposite to that. Where I go, they already know me (which sucks) and I'm sure they are logging in what I'm doing. I dont know, I'm not a big believer in using a card. We also have the situation of some casinos, you HAVE TO use a card to play slots. You have no choice. I HATE the tracking s**t, it should be my business. Dont even bring up the tax question because I am legally under it. Ken
September 6th, 2010 at 11:00:43 AM
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"The reply that Ken expected, is that if you are making money hand over fist playing roulette, using the greatest system in the world, the casino will have a method of tracking all your wins, and after a period of time will bar you for all the money you have won! Happens all the time, so refuse all players cards please!" >>> lol, No greatest system in the world for me but I somewhat agree with your post. Also, I use nickel chips and have some damn nice winning days. MANY times, I'll eat my dinner there after I'm done. If I net 2K for the day, I'll pay the $40 for my meal, not a huge deal. lol If I lost on the day, I'll still pay the $40, I dont care. F**k the card. Ken
September 17th, 2010 at 3:42:11 PM
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People who don't tip have never had a job where tips were an important part of there income. It's that simple. Good tippers are those who work in the service industry and survive off of tips.
What I find interesting about the topic of tipping is the game in question. Dealers and Pit personel will tell you that there are plenty of things that go on that the average player misses. There are also a high volume of marginal situations that arise in games like poker and roulette. Anyone who has played a fair bit of live poker has seen a situation that is 50/50, and however the dealer sells to the houseman can affect his ruling greatly. I rarely see a real jerk/cheapskate win these types of rulings. In roulette, there are so many chips on the layout and so many arms bumping things that bets do get moved around. If a non-tipper has a problem with something and the pit is called over, whatever the DEALER says has an impact on what happens. I've seen some people get downright robbed at the table by the tale the dealer sells. I've also seen bad table sweeps and chips left on the layout, incorrect payouts favouring the player, double payouts, even the entire layout not being swept. Are these related to the fact that the players who benefit the most are tippers? In my experience and conversations with other casino staff, I'd say it is very likely. But in the end, tipping is still a personal choice. I tip whenever I play.
What I find interesting about the topic of tipping is the game in question. Dealers and Pit personel will tell you that there are plenty of things that go on that the average player misses. There are also a high volume of marginal situations that arise in games like poker and roulette. Anyone who has played a fair bit of live poker has seen a situation that is 50/50, and however the dealer sells to the houseman can affect his ruling greatly. I rarely see a real jerk/cheapskate win these types of rulings. In roulette, there are so many chips on the layout and so many arms bumping things that bets do get moved around. If a non-tipper has a problem with something and the pit is called over, whatever the DEALER says has an impact on what happens. I've seen some people get downright robbed at the table by the tale the dealer sells. I've also seen bad table sweeps and chips left on the layout, incorrect payouts favouring the player, double payouts, even the entire layout not being swept. Are these related to the fact that the players who benefit the most are tippers? In my experience and conversations with other casino staff, I'd say it is very likely. But in the end, tipping is still a personal choice. I tip whenever I play.
September 17th, 2010 at 8:00:23 PM
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Quote: appistappisif you don't understand why you should tip at a craps table then you shouldn't be at one.
I agree. It's amazing (nod, nod, wink, wink) how when "mistakes" are made in a payoff, or the dealer leaving a come bet up after a natural on a come out roll, the "mistakes" are always in my favor ... but only when I tip.
Plus, if you toke the crew I believe you sometimes get a better rating by the floor; disputes are likely to be decided in your favor; the dealer will pay more attention and remind you if you overlook your usual bet, etc.
People, it's just the right thing to do.
"What, me worry?"
September 17th, 2010 at 10:25:46 PM
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"People who don't tip have never had a job where tips were an important part of there income" >>> I dont agree. I never had a tipping job and I DO realize and agree that tips are very important in terms of their income, I just dont care. Its all about me. Ken
September 17th, 2010 at 10:38:11 PM
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Quote: mrjjj"People who don't tip have never had a job where tips were an important part of there income" >>> I dont agree. I never had a tipping job and I DO realize and agree that tips are very important in terms of their income, I just dont care. Its all about me. Ken
Never had a tipping job, yet you own half a restaurant? That makes sense!
September 17th, 2010 at 10:40:11 PM
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Agreed! They don't care if I lose or win. Why should it matter to me if they make the tips or not. I've said it before nobody tips me at my job. They can find work elsewhere or strike so the casino pays them more.Quote: mrjjjThose same 'under-appreciated' people have free will to seek employment elsewhere. It is a WAR walking into the casino, its not my responsibility to keep their lights on at home. Its all about me. Ken
Come short with my cash and you'll be dancing like it's "Hammer Time"!
September 17th, 2010 at 10:41:19 PM
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Why? I'm not a waiter. Do they (waitress) need the money? Well sure. Ken
September 17th, 2010 at 10:45:24 PM
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Quote: mrjjjWhy? I'm not a waiter. Do they (waitress) need the money? Well sure. Ken
Only one waitress? How small is this restaurant? A B&B doesn't count.
September 17th, 2010 at 11:00:12 PM
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Evidently pretty small, considering he bought half with his roulette winnings (cough).
September 17th, 2010 at 11:05:19 PM
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Waitress as an example. @Herb >> I already posted, it was around 80% of roulette winnings. (you sound a bit jealous bro, lol) If you are gonna quote, do it properly. When will you answer my EASY questions at VLS? Ken
September 17th, 2010 at 11:09:36 PM
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Quote: mrjjjWaitress as an example. @Herb >> I already posted, it was around 80% of roulette winnings. (you sound a bit jealous bro, lol) If you are gonna quote, do it properly. When will you answer my EASY questions at VLS? Ken
Dear paranoid nutbag,
Which one of us do you think is Herb? I'm pretty sure that Herb is not here...
Also, you still haven't figured out how to push the "quote" button. Are you sure you want to tell other people how to quote properly?
Sincerely,
Herb. No, wait! Ross. I mean Ross...
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September 17th, 2010 at 11:14:39 PM
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Not you goofball. Keyser is Herb/Snowman. Not a big deal but why multi user names, I have no idea?
"you still haven't figured out how to push the "quote" button" >>> I dont want to, next question. Ken
"you still haven't figured out how to push the "quote" button" >>> I dont want to, next question. Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 6:56:03 AM
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My sentiments exactly!Quote: rdw4potusAlso, you still haven't figured out how to push the "quote" button. Are you sure you want to tell other people how to quote properly?
You're too lazy to use the quote button, and yet you'll copy and paste nonsense into threads that have nothing to do with what you're posting. Is it any wonder that you're disliked?Quote: mrjjj"you still haven't figured out how to push the "quote" button" >>> I dont want to, next question. Ken
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September 18th, 2010 at 1:45:21 PM
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"You're too lazy to use the quote button, and yet you'll copy and paste nonsense into threads that have nothing to do with what you're posting. Is it any wonder that you're disliked?" >>> Wrong answer. Not too lazy, I just dont want to. If you dont like that, the door is behind you. Disliked? lol I care. I answer questions, I start fun topics, I actually play at a casino and I know my s**t. Yeah, I stay up all night wondering if I'm 'liked'. Ken
September 18th, 2010 at 2:39:17 PM
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Another thread badly off topic thanks to mrjjj.
September 18th, 2010 at 2:54:32 PM
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You do have a choice...do NOT forget it. The more *YOU* post, you dont like my posts, the longer the thread gets. It takes two to tango. Ken
November 13th, 2010 at 3:30:52 AM
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Quote: AussieAs an Australian, I find the whole concept of tippig absolutely ridiculous. Why not pay the worker a proper wage and be done with it?
After having the opportunity to play blackjack in Australia and New Zealand, where the dealers aren't allowed to take tips, I am very grateful to play cards with tipped dealers, at least most tipped dealers pretend to care. The dealers I had in Aus and NZ were terrible, worse than any dealer I've ever had in the US. They didn't pay attention to the game or the players, but were more interested with private conversations with coworkers. The same was true for most of the servers and bartenders. I've waited more tables and tended more bar than I care to think about. If I hadn't been working for tips there is no way I would have gone to the all the trouble to fulfill some of the crazy and downright stupid requests that I did.
November 13th, 2010 at 4:42:17 AM
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It is interesting to hear the Australian point of view. I believe a few other countries ban tipping dealers also.
Tipping is a means of providing incentive to workers and it appears that salaried workers often simply lack incentive since the salaries are not really all that high anyway.
It might be nice to do away with tipping in Las Vegas but it sure ain't gonna happen soon. Obviously your tips do not alter the sequence of the cards but they keep the dealer alert, attentive, they keep that Tray Lizard on her toes, they make the dealer more than a silent robot. I would much prefer American society in general and the entire city of Las Vegas to be less oriented to tipping. However, its not going to happen. So we stuck with an inefficient tool for obtaining a better experience. Tips are shared, some tips are "shaved" by management, we obviously waste some of our tips, but in general it seems the system works to induce more attentive employees. Even after your gambling is over and you are leaving the casino, those bags will get from your room down to the hotel's airport-shuttle stop whether you tip or not, but they probably get there faster if you tip.
Tipping is a means of providing incentive to workers and it appears that salaried workers often simply lack incentive since the salaries are not really all that high anyway.
It might be nice to do away with tipping in Las Vegas but it sure ain't gonna happen soon. Obviously your tips do not alter the sequence of the cards but they keep the dealer alert, attentive, they keep that Tray Lizard on her toes, they make the dealer more than a silent robot. I would much prefer American society in general and the entire city of Las Vegas to be less oriented to tipping. However, its not going to happen. So we stuck with an inefficient tool for obtaining a better experience. Tips are shared, some tips are "shaved" by management, we obviously waste some of our tips, but in general it seems the system works to induce more attentive employees. Even after your gambling is over and you are leaving the casino, those bags will get from your room down to the hotel's airport-shuttle stop whether you tip or not, but they probably get there faster if you tip.
November 13th, 2010 at 11:39:56 PM
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Quote: milesAfter having the opportunity to play blackjack in Australia and New Zealand, where the dealers aren't allowed to take tips, I am very grateful to play cards with tipped dealers, at least most tipped dealers pretend to care. The dealers I had in Aus and NZ were terrible, worse than any dealer I've ever had in the US. They didn't pay attention to the game or the players, but were more interested with private conversations with coworkers. The same was true for most of the servers and bartenders. I've waited more tables and tended more bar than I care to think about. If I hadn't been working for tips there is no way I would have gone to the all the trouble to fulfill some of the crazy and downright stupid requests that I did.
Waiting tables and tending bar are far different services than what the gaming industry provides. Who in their right mind cares one bit if a dealer CARES about ANYTHING, let alone you, the game, or the results? And what difference does it make if he shows attention to you during the game? If he's dealing properly then he's paying attention to the game; if he's not then he'll be removed. Tipping these stiffs is only for those who'd rather be playing in the make-believe world. You sat down to play to win money, not to hope you'll win so you can give some of it away. If you sat down for any other reason then you should expect to lose. Winning is enjoyable in and of itself, and you don't need a smile or engaging tip-talk in order to win & have a good time.
November 14th, 2010 at 6:28:11 AM
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Jerry- when I sit down at a table game I do not plan on winning money. I plan on losing money, but am hoping to win money. I do expect to lose. But the overall experience of my gaming will still be positive if I have a dealer who is chatty and interesting, the same can be said for the other players at the table. If there is no talk at all I will not be long for the table. I tip because it adds to MY enjoyment of the game. I like seeing another person happy with my choice. In a previous post you said 'it is all about me'. I think that is sad for you. As is plainly obvious, if you go to a casino and will only find enjoyment when you win, then you will be unhappy way more often than not.
November 14th, 2010 at 9:08:51 AM
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SOOPOO: Yes, I want to win and am unhappy if I don't. The casino is all about the casino until YOU walk in, then at that exact moment it becomes all about YOU. It's those of us who allow the casino to slip into their personal comfort zone, that get caught up in all the purposeful distractions & pleasures which in turn allow the casino a better opportunity to take our money while getting us to pretend we had a good time. Tipping is a big part of that because it gives the false sense that someone in the casino actually cares about whether you win or lose.
November 14th, 2010 at 11:00:35 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOJerry- when I sit down at a table game I do not plan on winning money. I plan on losing money, but am hoping to win money. I do expect to lose. But the overall experience of my gaming will still be positive if I have a dealer who is chatty and interesting, the same can be said for the other players at the table. If there is no talk at all I will not be long for the table. I tip because it adds to MY enjoyment of the game. I like seeing another person happy with my choice. In a previous post you said 'it is all about me'. I think that is sad for you. As is plainly obvious, if you go to a casino and will only find enjoyment when you win, then you will be unhappy way more often than not.
Whenever this issue comes up, the source of most disagreement stems from the perception that you tip a dealer as some kind of reward for winning. This is not why anyone should tip. Does the dealer give good service--does he/she affect a pleasant manner, act like he/she is dealing to human beings, conduct the game in an efficient way--if a crap dealer, does he/she remember your bets, make payoffs properly, etc. etc. etc.? Having been on both sides of the table more times than I can count, I call tell you there's a HUGE difference between a dealer just doing his job and a dealer doing his job well. Ultimately, dealing is a customer service profession--there are plenty of machines available to take your bets, after all.
Some people don't care about this one way or the other, of course, but they are in the small minority. Most people gamble to have a good time, and for most people, human interaction is a large component of having a good time. If you're a bitter misanthrope, you might want the dealer to just shut the f*** up and deal. But if you are such a person, then tipping doesn't enter into the discussion, because you'll stiff the dealer no matter what, the dollar or two you save vastly outweighing whatever effect being stiffed has on the dealer.
There IS a difference in social perception between that of casino dealing and other tipped professions. MANY people think that dealers are well paid by the house. The same person who wouldn't DREAM of stiffing the waitress in the coffee shop will think nothing of playing at a crap table for an hour and then leaving without tossing in a single dollar "for the boys". I actually think that casino dealers should be paid a decent living wage, but until that changes, I am fully cognizant of the fact that that guy handling my bets is making six bucks an hour.
And of course, as you say, if tipping the dealer makes YOU feel good, why then, that's all the more reason to do it. And I think that rewarding the dealer who makes the extra effort to give the player a pleasant experience, win or lose, will increase the frequency of such pleasant experiences in the future.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
November 14th, 2010 at 2:27:46 PM
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No wonder advantage players have so little money to gamble with.....
November 14th, 2010 at 7:00:10 PM
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Quote: milesAfter having the opportunity to play blackjack in Australia and New Zealand, where the dealers aren't allowed to take tips, I am very grateful to play cards with tipped dealers, at least most tipped dealers pretend to care. The dealers I had in Aus and NZ were terrible, worse than any dealer I've ever had in the US. They didn't pay attention to the game or the players, but were more interested with private conversations with coworkers. The same was true for most of the servers and bartenders. I've waited more tables and tended more bar than I care to think about. If I hadn't been working for tips there is no way I would have gone to the all the trouble to fulfill some of the crazy and downright stupid requests that I did.
You can't have encountered too many dealers if you think that's a true reflection of what they are like over here. The vast majority in any decent casino are very good and I encountered just as many bad ones in Vegas as a proportion as I have in 10 years or so of gambling in Australian casinos.
The tipping aspect is irrelevant in any argument about how good Australian dealers are. They don't need tips to survive as they are paid a proper wage (more than $20/hr).
November 20th, 2010 at 5:51:57 AM
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I think that tipping is something that you should do win or lose. It doesn't have to be much but it is nice to give back a little and I'm not talking about winnings - the fact that you can afford to go to a casino in the first place generally means that you can afford it.
Some examples - A couple of years ago I was killing some time after a long and profitable session at the craps table just playing a little video poker winding down before going to bed. I hit a royal for a grand and these days, as you know, the machine pays 1199 or less. The only person within 40 feet of me was a lady cleaning the machines - I called her over, showed her the royal, and gave her $20. Made her day (and mine too).
Whenever I take chips to the window to get cash I always leave a little bit "for a cup of coffee." And when I check out I leave a tip equal to $5 a day for housekeeping.
When I play craps or blackjack I always make small bets for the dealers. And when I color if I have some extra change I give it to them to "for the box."
Throughout my extensive gambling career I've won and lost many thousands of dollars but none of that was life changing. On the other hand the couple of thousand that I've left in tips might have helped some guy or gal make the rent, feed the family, or make a another payment on a hospital bill and that is life changing.
Some examples - A couple of years ago I was killing some time after a long and profitable session at the craps table just playing a little video poker winding down before going to bed. I hit a royal for a grand and these days, as you know, the machine pays 1199 or less. The only person within 40 feet of me was a lady cleaning the machines - I called her over, showed her the royal, and gave her $20. Made her day (and mine too).
Whenever I take chips to the window to get cash I always leave a little bit "for a cup of coffee." And when I check out I leave a tip equal to $5 a day for housekeeping.
When I play craps or blackjack I always make small bets for the dealers. And when I color if I have some extra change I give it to them to "for the box."
Throughout my extensive gambling career I've won and lost many thousands of dollars but none of that was life changing. On the other hand the couple of thousand that I've left in tips might have helped some guy or gal make the rent, feed the family, or make a another payment on a hospital bill and that is life changing.
November 20th, 2010 at 7:51:40 PM
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"When I play craps or blackjack I always make small bets for the dealers" >>> Once in a while (not very often), if I am doing quite 'well' playing roulette, I'll put $10 on a street and if it hits, thats a $110 tip for the dealer. Ken
December 3rd, 2010 at 4:26:34 PM
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Here's a new one, new to the board anywaysI think it kind of shows what our society has declined to. One of the local casinos just had a record toke day around the holiday. So a player hears this and pulls back a $100 tip!
Myself I find that very low class but to be expected given some of what we hear the leaders of our country saying.
On another note, it seems to be getting a problem of other departments hearing the toke rate and getting upset.
Myself I find that very low class but to be expected given some of what we hear the leaders of our country saying.
On another note, it seems to be getting a problem of other departments hearing the toke rate and getting upset.
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December 3rd, 2010 at 4:38:28 PM
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Good for him.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:58:18 PM
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I only play craps.. its my game of choice.. but i do believe in tipping the dealers... but i only tip when i am on the winning side.. by this i mean lets say i buy in for 100 bucks.. well lets say i am down to 20 bucks on my buy in i am not tipping... but if my next bet wins i start tipping again... and i always like to bring the dealers in on the pass line when i have white available with an odds backing it.. so if the play wins they double their tip... but when i leave the table i color up my reds and greens (never got to color blacks up yet lol) but i always toss my whites in on the tips...
i cant remember how many times i forgot i had a hardways bet up and it hit and i got paid... the dealers give you advice and watch your money, the remind you of bets you have up and they get to know you as a player and how you like to bet and when you are about to miss placing a bet the remind that as well.. dealers work for their money.
as for waitresses i rarely get drinks at a table but when i do they get a dollar for the drink even if its water.. the walk around all day they deserve that atleast.
i cant remember how many times i forgot i had a hardways bet up and it hit and i got paid... the dealers give you advice and watch your money, the remind you of bets you have up and they get to know you as a player and how you like to bet and when you are about to miss placing a bet the remind that as well.. dealers work for their money.
as for waitresses i rarely get drinks at a table but when i do they get a dollar for the drink even if its water.. the walk around all day they deserve that atleast.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:53:36 AM
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I disagree on tipping only when winning. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a good tipper and I make no apologies for it.
When I do tip, it's because the dealer deserves it not because I've won or lost.
When I do tip, it's because the dealer deserves it not because I've won or lost.
December 20th, 2010 at 4:42:57 AM
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Yes. Its proper to tip the waitress although some of them probably make more than the gamblers make. Some craps dealers probably make more than the craps players who tip them. Door men and valets often make really good money as well. I tip appropriately most of the time. I over tip from time to time because of exuberance at winning. I stiff people very rarely but sometimes a crew really merits being stiffed. And of course if you were to ask me if my tipping brought me good karma I would say no. Yet, as someone's tag line says: "How much does it cost to knock on wood"?Quote: kauboj...as for waitresses i rarely get drinks at a table but when i do they get a dollar for the drink even if its water.. they walk around all day they deserve that atleast.
December 20th, 2010 at 5:35:58 AM
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That would be me.Quote: FleaStiffYet, as someone's tag line says: "How much does it cost to knock on wood"?
I never connected the dots between tips and karma, but, whatever floats your boat...
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December 20th, 2010 at 8:46:35 AM
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OK:
To take this is a direction that it has gone sometimes, but has not played out to give me an answer.
If you don't want to Tip, that's your decision, and I am cool with it.
I prefer to tip. So, I would like to know what may be appropriate. I mean, its supposed to be 15% of the total bill in a restaurant, so that gives me a standard.
I like to play Craps. I don't place bets for the dealers, becasue if they lose, they get nothing. Just my opinion.
So, and I am not a large bank roll guy, I may buy in for $500, play the pass, and a couple of come bets, from $10-20 each bet. Some props stuff, because its amusing and my Wife enjoys it.
So, I might throw a $10 red chip to the dealers every 20-30 minutes. If I am doing well, I give more, and a little less if I am burning cash. I give up my whites when I cash out, or throw down another $10 if I am walking away.
I don't ever expect to be a George, I will never play often enough for that. But I figure, I am paying about $20-30 an hour directly to the dealers. Does that sound about right?
SFB
To take this is a direction that it has gone sometimes, but has not played out to give me an answer.
If you don't want to Tip, that's your decision, and I am cool with it.
I prefer to tip. So, I would like to know what may be appropriate. I mean, its supposed to be 15% of the total bill in a restaurant, so that gives me a standard.
I like to play Craps. I don't place bets for the dealers, becasue if they lose, they get nothing. Just my opinion.
So, and I am not a large bank roll guy, I may buy in for $500, play the pass, and a couple of come bets, from $10-20 each bet. Some props stuff, because its amusing and my Wife enjoys it.
So, I might throw a $10 red chip to the dealers every 20-30 minutes. If I am doing well, I give more, and a little less if I am burning cash. I give up my whites when I cash out, or throw down another $10 if I am walking away.
I don't ever expect to be a George, I will never play often enough for that. But I figure, I am paying about $20-30 an hour directly to the dealers. Does that sound about right?
SFB
