Mensa: Porn star vs Mike
a Porn star has passed the test: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_Carrera
I am somewhat surprised that a porn star passed the test. (I'm more surprised that she chose to be a porn star given her prodigy level accomplishments as a teenager.)
and I'm shocked that Mike didn't. (Mensa, not porn star) :P
I guess the test is more than math and logic puzzles?
Quote: 100xOddsIn one of the threads, Mike said he failed the Mensa test.
a Porn star has passed the test: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_Carrera
I am somewhat surprised that a porn star passed the test. (I'm more surprised that she chose to be a porn star given her prodigy level accomplishments as a teenager.)
and I'm shocked that Mike didn't. (Mensa, not porn star) :P
I guess the test is more than math and logic puzzles?
not much math, apart from simple arithmetics involved with the logic part. There is some geometry involved.
with his analytic mind set, he should have no problem passing, unless he screwed up real bad in the geometry.
Quote: WizardI congratulate Ms. Carrera for passing the test. As for me, I think it was the verbal section that did me in.
Funny, i remembered reading it but can't find it now. They specifically mentioned that their test is without words, to avoid social and cultural bias. Its just numbers, and geometry. And thats how it was when i did it 10 yrs ago.
Quote: BoulderDamItI've heard before that there's actually a few porn stars that have high IQs. I know Katie Morgan said in a HBO special that she scored extremely high.
With that voice, you'd never guess.
Quote: WizardAs for me, I think it was the verbal section that did me in.
I hear she did well on the oral part
of the test.
Quote: EvenBobI hear she did well on the oral part
of the test.
That's very penetrating.
Quote: GreasyjohnThat's very penetrating.
I looked her up on Pornhub. In one
video she's playing piano like a concert
pianist for 3-4 minutes. In the next
scene she's using every orifice of her
body in very productive ways. I
don't think it takes a genius to do this,
I could be wrong. I wonder how many
Mensa men are porn stars. My guess
is they use their skills elsewhere.
Quote: EvenBobI hear she did well on the oral part
of the test.
Yeah, porn star and Mensa member is okay, but can she eat 100 McNuggets?
Quote: rxwineYeah, porn star and Mensa member is okay, but can she eat 100 McNuggets?
Probably not, but she can damn well
act orgasmic while she's doing it.
And play concert level piano at the
same time. I'd say her talents are
wasted, but can we really know that
for sure? Maybe porn star is the
Peter Principle for her. (I just wanted
to work the word 'peter' into the
conversation)
Quote: rxwineYeah, porn star and Mensa member is okay, but can she eat 100 McNuggets?
If she went to Mermaids how many deep fried twinkies could she eat (while keeping that I'm really enjoying myself look on her face)?
Quote: andysifFunny, i remembered reading it but can't find it now. They specifically mentioned that their test is without words, to avoid social and cultural bias. Its just numbers, and geometry. And thats how it was when i did it 10 yrs ago.
When I took the Mensa test there was a reading comprehension part. I'd love to take a test that was just logic problems.
Quote: HunterhillAsia Carrera was arrested for drunk driving in Utah a few days ago. You wouldn't know she was a porn star by looking at her mugshot.
Ran an adult business in NYC for years. When the wonderful workers come to work you pretty much wouldn't want to take them our for a date. Once all the make up, wigs, hair extensions, glitter, 6 inch heels and crotch length skirts go on---a normal male is pretty much committed to everything in his pocket and then on the plastic.
Quote: HunterhillAsia Carrera was arrested for drunk driving in Utah a few days ago. You wouldn't know she was a porn star by looking at her mugshot.
Her BAC was .254
Quote: HunterhillAsia Carrera was arrested for drunk driving in Utah a few days ago. You wouldn't know she was a porn star by looking at her mugshot.
lol.. she's now ~45.
but yeah, she didn't age gracefully :(
So if I gave a box of rocks an IQ test they would all score 100 as their answers to the questions would be the same? What if the human race gets less intelligent over time? Would the value of an IQ change or remain the same?
Quote: ncfatcatI have a question about IQ tests. Aren't IQ tests based on the mean value of people taking the tests? Sort of a bell curve distribution of the population?
So if I gave a box of rocks an IQ test they would all score 100 as their answers to the questions would be the same? What if the human race gets less intelligent over time? Would the value of an IQ change or remain the same?
I think the average person is supposed to score 100. A box of rocks would each score 0.
Quote: ncfatcatI have a question about IQ tests. Aren't IQ tests based on the mean value of people taking the tests? Sort of a bell curve distribution of the population?
So if I gave a box of rocks an IQ test they would all score 100 as their answers to the questions would be the same? What if the human race gets less intelligent over time? Would the value of an IQ change or remain the same?
IQ tests are adjusted every year so that a score of 100 always equates to roughly the 50th percentile. This means that IQ's aren't constant since they depend on everyone else's score and if the general population gets more or less intelligent then the test will become more or less difficult. For the past 80 years or so the general population has become more intelligent and the test has become harder. This phenomenon is known as the Flynn effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
Some old timers here are going to have a fit over that statement.Quote: TortoiseFor the past 80 years or so the general population has become more intelligent and the test has become harder. This phenomenon is known as the Flynn effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
Quote: TortoiseIQ tests are adjusted every year so that a score of 100 always equates to roughly the 50th percentile. This means that IQ's aren't constant since they depend on everyone else's score and if the general population gets more or less intelligent then the test will become more or less difficult. For the past 80 years or so the general population has become more intelligent and the test has become harder. This phenomenon is known as the Flynn effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
Agreed that the average person today is more intelligent than someone 80 years ago, but you might be getting a little in to apples/oranges. Take someone from today and plop them back a couple hundred years and see how they'd survive then, without the knowledge of that time. So while people today are considered "more intelligent" that's partially because we're basing it off of testing for "today's" knowledge.
I also believe the movie Idiocracy is a documentary waiting to happen.
Quote: RomesAgreed that the average person today is more intelligent than someone 80 years ago, but you might be getting a little in to apples/oranges. Take someone from today and plop them back a couple hundred years and see how they'd survive then, without the knowledge of that time. So while people today are considered "more intelligent" that's partially because we're basing it off of testing for "today's" knowledge.
That was basically Flynn's conclusion too. The world today is more complicated so people become more skilled and experienced at handling complicated ideas. These people then go out to affect the world they live in and complicate it further for the next generation etc, etc....
I do think that if you look at most fields the average person is better today than in the past. The average blackjack or poker player of today could probably clean up if he had played in the 1950's.
Quote: TortoiseFor the past 80 years or so the general population has become more intelligent
Depends on how you define intelligence.
Take a 12 year old kid today back to
1935 and a 12 year old kid from that
era will be much better educated. He
will know things a modern kid has never
even heard of. He'll be better at math,
history, reading, spelling. Education
experts say a HS diploma in the 1930's
is equivalent to a 4 year college degree
today. Some say it's even better than
that.
Saying the population is more 'intelligent'
today is a flawed statement.
Quote: WizardWhen I took the Mensa test there was a reading comprehension part. I'd love to take a test that was just logic problems.
Guess you should have requested this one:
"American Mensa offers a culture fair test battery primarily for individuals who do not speak English as their primary language. The battery of three tests is designed to measure intelligence without the influence of cultural climate, level of education or verbal fluency. These tests are non-verbal and require only that candidates be able to distinguish relationships in figures and shapes."
http://www.us.mensa.org/join/testing/
Quote: EvenBobDepends on how you define intelligence.
Take a 12 year old kid today back to
1935 and a 12 year old kid from that
era will be much better educated. He
will know things a modern kid has never
even heard of. He'll be better at math,
history, reading, spelling. Education
experts say a HS diploma in the 1930's
is equivalent to a 4 year college degree
today. Some say it's even better than
that.
Saying the population is more 'intelligent'
today is a flawed statement.
I think that this is bull. There were a lot of really stupid paint chip eating kids in the 1930s.
